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Ketan Joshi

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Never stops making me mad every time I see it: if we had begun the process of eliminating fossil fuels in the 1990s, it would've been a relatively shallow curve. Climate deniers and delayers have put us in a position where the same temp limits require a cliff-like drop in emissions.

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Dirck de Lint's avatar Dirck de Lint @dirck.bsky.social
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There was a two-part special called After The Warming in the late ‘80s, and I find myself in a state of apoplexy when some goober pipes up with “Are we sure it was…?” or “Well, really, is it worth disrupting the economy for…?” in the aftermath of some disaster the show predicted.

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Liane Yvkoff's avatar Liane Yvkoff @liane.bsky.social
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I could appreciate a permanent art installation highlighting the some of the main climate deniers and key fossil fuel industry promoters that fought regulations. I think it would be a nice tribute for the last few generations to know their legacy.

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One of the classic errors. "Getting mad that things turned out like they did instead of how I now think they should have."

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Brad Johnson's avatar Brad Johnson @climatebrad.hillheat.com
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ooh I know how we're going to achieve it too

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Scaypgrayce's avatar Scaypgrayce @scaypgrayce.bsky.social
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Same. If we’d only . . .

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Amalie Skålevåg's avatar Amalie Skålevåg @skalevag.bsky.social
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I came across this passage in a paper commenting on climate change policy from 1998 recently. Not sure what I find worse, that nations acted too late out of negligence or as a planned strategy.
doi.org/10.1016/S095...

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Dave Levitan's avatar Dave Levitan @davelevitan.bsky.social
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I think about this bit from the 1983 EPA report on “greenhouse warming” all the time

themessenger.com/tech/forty-y...

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Øystein Sjølie's avatar Øystein Sjølie @oysteinsjolie.bsky.social
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Yes, iif only the whole world could have followed the rich world's example, and but emissions instead of this surge....

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rogergathmann's avatar rogergathmann @rogergathmann.bsky.social
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Exactly. Clinton should have been on it, but the real villain is Bush: what he did was war crimes, what he didn't do was a planetary crime.

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Mark Peifer (He. him)'s avatar Mark Peifer (He. him) @peiferlabunc.bsky.social
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If only we'd listened to President Carter--he was so far ahead of his time in many ways

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J Mark Dodds's avatar J Mark Dodds @jmarkdodds.bsky.social
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Oh yes. It is utterly depressing, and unforgivable. In 2003 Carbon Trust rejected my £110K match funded grant application to retrofit my then pub @sunanddoves to operate #FossilFuelFree on the grounds that a carbon neutral public house was not innovative.

Been pretty upset about it for 20 years

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Andy Fraser's avatar Andy Fraser @andyfraser.bsky.social
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It was the same with covid lockdowns - you knew they were coming, you knew that doing them early would be less painful and more effective, yet our leaders kept pretending the problem would magically vanish without taking any action until it was too late and the resulting actions were drastic.

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Mike Behr's avatar Mike Behr @mabehr.bsky.social
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Back then I remember we thought oil was going to be gone by now.

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costrike's avatar costrike @costrike.bsky.social
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I'm aware of a sea we could drive them into.

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Hisham Zerriffi's avatar Hisham Zerriffi @hishamzerriffi.bsky.social
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I seem to recall some people making the argument that delaying climate action made sense because we would be richer and more technologically advanced in the future and so it would be easier to reduce emissions later. That...didn't seem to work out so well.

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sagebiel 's avatar sagebiel @aiformal.bsky.social
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@charles-ex.bsky.social

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Maria L's avatar Maria L @marial.bsky.social
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i see this graph & a quiet old voice in the back of my head says that if there are any rational ppl left in positions of pwr, the mechanism they see to effectively navigate that cliff is war

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Karen (yes, the meme name 🙄) T.'s avatar Karen (yes, the meme name 🙄) T. @crabbygranny.bsky.social
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We SHOULD have begun it in the 70s when we had the first gas shortages. It kills me that Jimmy Carter put solar panels on the roof of the White House and then that moron Reagan had them removed. 😠

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ElliottScribe's avatar ElliottScribe @futfanatico.bsky.social
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see also: hypothetical widespread mask wearing in the US in very early stages of the pandemic and mortality+infection curves

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Mela Storm's avatar Mela Storm @melastorm.bsky.social
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If trump gets back in the White House, we might as well all kiss our asses goodbye and stop having kids entirely.

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Eat's avatar Eat @eateator.bsky.social
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Tax the churches out of existence. Allowing religion to co-govern serves only those who seek doomsday over optimism. No book of the past with long dead author holds more useful promise than the living imagine and invent for better worlds in the future.

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DCapTO's avatar DCapTO @dcapto.bsky.social
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And then there’s this.

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Micheál Keane's avatar Micheál Keane @aexia.bsky.social
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Al Bore amirite?!?

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a's avatar a @aacoek.bsky.social
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But my fossil fuel "business."

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Futuremonkey's avatar Futuremonkey @futuremonkey.bsky.social
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And if my grandmother had wheels, she'd have been a wagon.

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Ketan Joshi's avatar Ketan Joshi @ketanjoshi.co
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Here's the link!

www.nature.com/immersive/d4...

Also kinda maddening that the same people whose actions have made a shallow, easier option not possible are the same people who moan about how radical climate action proposals are!!

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SanDeE*'s avatar SanDeE* @phenolbarbiedoll.bsky.social
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But somehow the siren song of a v8 Ford Explorer that would never once leave pavement was simply too strong.

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The J. Cobb's avatar The J. Cobb @thejcobb.bsky.social
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Al Gore was right. He always was.

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Gabe Valentine's avatar Gabe Valentine @poetguygabe.bsky.social
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People could change things if we really wanted to, but we're either too disempowered or too comfortable to change. We've learned to tolerate whatever governments and corporations do. It's as if humanity has given up.

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Tripoli's avatar Tripoli @energytripoli.bsky.social
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Could we have made progress on the same pace without the 1 billion people that were lifted out of poverty since 1990? The counterfactuals boggle my mind.

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