the biggest reason the political conversation is so fraught right now is all the options suck
Biden stays in and we deal with age stories every day until the election? bad!
Biden drops out and Harris tries to step in and run? bad!
there is no obvious solution, so every path is easy to get mad at
Math wise he’s the only one that can win the presidency vs Trump. There is a mathematical advantage to being the incumbent, also the fact that the economy etc are all trending positive. Changing him out for Harris would be a huge gift to the GOP while Project 2025 lurks
What’s bad is people bellyaching about Biden. We’re stuck with him and no amount of wishful thinking will change that, so everyone would better use their energies winning in November.
How about, Biden stays in and we stop talking about his age? The country is doing great under his leadership. VP Harris is ready to step in if and when necessary.
Agreed! This is why my genuine reaction, despite being someone who cares about politics, is, eh, all the options feel roughly equal to me. Somebody who knows things can just figure it out and let me know what you settle on
The media has really gone all in on pushing for things to happen that make easy stories to write. "Candidates give speeches" is hard to make intereating and informative, whereas Biden backing out and the drama of the open convention creates stories that write themselves.
I’m still not seeing any evidence that the debate was catastrophic FOR NORMAL HUMANS and I think changing now would be a total catastrophe. Would it make sense? IFF there’s simply no way for Trump to lose otherwise; sure. But where’s the evidence?
I don’t get the negativity around Harris - even among liberals! She’s had an impressive career & she’s nobody’s fool. The negativity seems very vibes-based - we’re doing Trump’s dirty work for him.
To be completely honest, I don't think it'll matter to me who will win, because I'll be completely terrified either way. November will be a choice between what I'm gonna be terrified of...
Whats sort of generally maddening is the degree to which *even now* Trump is getting handled with kid gloves. It wouldn't be quite so galling if the silence on all of Trump's...everything wasn't so deafening.
Democrats need to find a winner and fast because Biden is 0 for 3 with Trump, Putin, and Netanyahu.
Hillary and Kamala are worse. Newsom is no better.
And the DNC prefers Trump to Bernie.
yeah unfortunately harris has like, 0 chance of winning on her own if biden steps down, so the "best" route is if she has to step up from VP by default, which is also bad news for biden.
Agreed.
I do think an open convention would be better, but it seems unlikely.
We’ll see! Proud of ole Lloyd Doggett, whatever the outcome, that takes courage.
Can I throw an idea out here. Biden needs to make one killer add and run it into the ground like:
Start with a sequence of every J6er and staff member of his along with their jail time adding up -> then at the end Biden and Harris say “we endorse this ad because we are tough on crime.”
Why is Harris stepping in bad?
You find a successor to Biden w/o the disruptive primary people were asking for, which would have bypassed BOTH POTUS and VP. You get second best messager on abortion.
You get Biden's $$.
at this point, we will have the rest of our lives to assign blame and get mad and the only path forward is to figure out the least bad plan and stick to it
Trump hasn’t won yet and until he does the blame game doesn’t do anyone any good
the old stories are happening b/c the press wants Trump to win, they'll make up buttery males to smear Harris with too.
I think the chaos of switching nominees outweighs all other considerations, even if Harris is a better candidate, which I'm not sure of. Throwing to someone else is right out
I don't have faith in Biden's ability to win this election even if he wasn't clearly dying. And I am almost certain the Supreme Court will not allow it regardless.
Added to the buffet of bad options, most/all of us have little to no agency in which of them actually happens. It’s a nightmare and we all have sleep paralysis.