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Shoegaze Dad☭@shoegaze-dad.bsky.social |
I'm pretty convinced the "Jesus fed 5000 with five fishes" story was originally about how if everyone shares there's enough for everyone but at some point the church came along and said "no no, jesus did a magic trick"
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Donna M (she/her) 🌈🐍🎹
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My mom always said that she figured everyone brought out the food they'd held back, and that the message was "Jesus needs you to step up, because if someone starts it, others will join in". That makes sense to me. Getting volunteers is hard.
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MurkyMurk
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That would be the church. If a dead Italian Internet kiddo can perform magic, why not the big guy.
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Taka Hanazawa
@takahanazawa.bsky.social
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Jesus literally made soup from a stone
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Kenny Logins
@kennylogins.bsky.social
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guy in a costco vest in the crowd clicking one of these
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Dewey, Cheatum, and Howe
@jefemuka.bsky.social
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I believe the current consensus is that the historical Jesus didn't claim to be divine or anything and all that started later
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Peter
@cgblue.bsky.social
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Yours is actually the correct interpretation. And I have heard that sermon: it came from my father's mouth. You are spot on, and the "Christians" who don't see it are wrong about so much.
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Can I Pod With Madness
@podwithmadness.bsky.social
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"I was up all night making those sandwiches!"
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TeeJay Ach
@pragmaticleftist.bsky.social
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So Jesus was like the scammer in the stone soup story?
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John G
@johnalex.bsky.social
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It's documented that at the Council of Nicaea (325) at the bequest of Emperor Constantine, miracles and even jesus divinity were debated, which gospels would be included(jesus own gospels was omitted as it was considered too controversial), so I believe you are probably correct.
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David Burke
@davidbburke.bsky.social
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So they were five incredibly big fish?
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Jessica Cheeri
@cheerijessie.bsky.social
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I think that tends to be the original message, that "you're supposed to be doing this too; you're here to help others", but generations of office politics happened
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Brian Smith
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"Loaves & Fishes" was the Safeway of the day. Jesus sent Pete, Andy, Bart, etc. out to several stores in the area for provisions.
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Thomas Neville
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Doesn’t the Gospel of John have Jesus ask how many loaves and fishes they have and then instruct his apostles to go collect it? And the five loaves and two fishes are the response to the question, while the 12 baskets is what is left over after they go out into the crowd and distribute?
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Broken Bottle
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Lee Rowan
@leerowan.bsky.social
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When you consider how none of JC's actions were even written down until years after his death and the way events tend to get exaggerated... it was probably 50 people and 500 fishes. Jesus hung out with Pete the Fisherman, remember!
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Arash Mohebbi
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I always read those as metaphors for the transformative power of his teachings myself. I mean miracles are cool and all but when you're there it's a David Copperfield show. When you hear about it later it's just "cool story bro".
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Shoegaze Dad☭
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As a story of a miracle, it's pretty dull. It really makes no sense to be a pivotal story otherwise
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Loredena Frisealach
@loredena.bsky.social
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I always assumed it was a stone soup tale
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SID Chip Vicious
@fatseanlives.bsky.social
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his followers needed a story with pop to stay relevant after Jesus died
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Justin
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No, you see, we can't feed the poor because we're not magic like Jesus was
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Bluntzkrieg420
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jesus thought whales were fishes smh
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Cat
@astrophic.bsky.social
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I've always thought it was more likely that everyone contributed what they could so they started with 5 fish and people added to it and the resulting feast fed everyone
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MOKTOP
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The moral of the story depends on the priest telling it.
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Dr. Benway
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I’m pretty sure this was how it was taught to me. Or at least in a “maybe it’s a metaphor maybe it’s a miracle but the message is be kind to each other and share what you can.”
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Little Gems
@lettucewrangler.bsky.social
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Stone Soup, a story about a community being able to feed itself if everyone stops hoarding, has been slowly reimagined as a story about conmen getting a free meal out of some rubes
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Sock Puppet Pundit
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Feel the same about ‘water to wine.’ Maybe he just learned about new ways to purify water and distill liquors in his travels. Not a magic trick. But admitting other cultures have good ideas is not something Christianity is known for.
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Wingofbenu
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I mean, otherwise they might feel bad when all they bring to the potluck is broccoli they boiled to the point of flavorlessness and carelessly slathered in cheese sauce.
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@branewave.bsky.social
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There’s a similar narrative in 2 Kings 4 about Elisha. There’s a long Jewish tradition about miracles validating prophets. Surely that’s the backdrop here, not the church retconning Stone Soup out of the gospels.
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Mt Pleasant
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once you buy the whole 'a virgin conceived and had a baby' bit, anything goes, really. The field is wide open.
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Nicole Brookus
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The historical record confirms zero of the tales of Jesus, and sometimes contradicts them. I have always thought of Jesus as a folkloric character that illustrates proper Jewish values and behavior. One that people began to think was a real person.
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P.L. Rock
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Also reeks of Trump math. You're telling me 1/5 of the population of the whole city of Jerusalem came to this dinner party?
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Password123
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It’s a story about overfishing and portion control, because you could easily get 1,000 8oz filets out of a mature bluefin tuna back then.
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Aaron Bourque
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Stone soup.
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Cow Cat
@cowcat7.bsky.social
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I think Jesus just had 5 of these (apparently they go to the red sea sometimes)
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🎪 Ya Boi Citrus 🎪
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entirely possible and arguably likely its a silly translation thing also entirely possible that they had to do this to actively stamp out notions of communal sharing
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the jEfE
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He could turn wheat into marijuana, sugar into cocaine and vitamin pills into amphetamines.
youtu.be/mSfa56tjBQo?...
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Pidge
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Once in church the priest talked about this story and said: "At no point does it say he made more fish!" and my little 9yo brain was like woah Anyway, you're right, it's about sharing and everyone giving what they can, not magic.
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Melody Schreiber
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There is literally a saying about teaching a man to fish and yet
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Glen
@vaguebiscuit.bsky.social
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My theory is there was five rich dudes there trying to sell food and Jesus convinced the masses to rise up and take the food since they outnumbered them 1000 to 1 but then I have a problem with assuming everyone is a communist
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Ra's al Dolezal
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No one may enter the Kingdom of Heaven except through Ricky Jay
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DSL fish
@guarder.bsky.social
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five fish were originally very feminine drag queens
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BloodRed
@blood-red.bsky.social
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"Blessed are the cheesemakers."
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ohio lover 🙏🙏🙏❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏
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What if Jesus fed 5000 with five ohios
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Jane Pothecary
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That’s what I thought the whole point of the story was when I first heard it as a kid - the miracle was Jesus inspiring ppl to be better, not doing magic tricks. I was shocked when I realised my interpretation wasn’t quite what was being taught.
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@bluejacksky.bsky.social
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Stone soup.
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