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Randall Munroe

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Fluid Speech xkcd.com/2942

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ArrowBlenny's avatar ArrowBlenny @redrowan.bsky.social
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Dare you to cross-post this on Facebook for the hundreds of boomer complaints about how kids speak these days.

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Shannon's avatar Shannon @srobalino.bsky.social
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I can’t not say the T. Is this one of those regional things. Or is that you’re suggesting trying to say it was a hard T unlike the T at the end of caught?

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Emperor Joshua Norton II's avatar Emperor Joshua Norton II @joshuanortonii.bsky.social
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I think the best optimization technique in English is found in "I don't know", because the particular way of pressure and tone you put in each syllable. In fact, me and my wife have optimized it so that we pretty much only need to hit that tone/pressure combo with one vowel-ish noise throughout.

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Uni's avatar Uni @uni-versal.bsky.social
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People make fun of Atlanta natives for saying it like Atlanna, but this is exactly why we do. Gotta optimize. Just don't make us say a sentence like "Don't take Atlanta winters for granted" ...dontake Atlanna winners for gran'ed.

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You cannot grasp the true form of Borger Flavor's avatar You cannot grasp the true form of Borger Flavor @negatron00.bsky.social
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Scaredyfish 🐟🐡🐠's avatar Scaredyfish 🐟🐡🐠 @scaredy.fish
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Geoff Lindsey on YouTube has tons of interesting stuff like this.

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Jason Rinn's avatar Jason Rinn @jrinn.bsky.social
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The problem is it’s very context specific. Say the sentence: “I dropped that A hole like a hot potato”, and both the T and the P must be emphasized to get the correct effect.

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hiive's avatar hiive @hiive.bsky.social
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I'm English. Sorry.

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Jason, the Okayest Painter's avatar Jason, the Okayest Painter @theokayestpainter.bsky.social
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You mean say "hot potato" pronouncing the"t" in hot correctly the way I always have? The way everyone around me always has? Who is dropping the "t" in hot? It's not like we're saying Atlanta where the second "t" is more of a suggestion.

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Kyle D. Long's avatar Kyle D. Long @blatherscribe.bsky.social
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"Why can't the English teach their children how to speak?" 😁 I actually do pronounce all three Ts in "hot potato," and while I've been known to abbreviate to "gonna," I pronounce the Ns. From study of ancient Egyptian I can tell you that down this road lies loss of language. (1/2 don't judge yet!)

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Don Knowles's avatar Don Knowles @dxk.bsky.social
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Fluid speech? C'mon now, spit it out!

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The Wainscoting Guy's avatar The Wainscoting Guy @squigglymips.bsky.social
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What is the line? The tip of the tongue?

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WerewolfLord's avatar WerewolfLord @werewolflord.bsky.social
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And I thought it was just the Londoner in me. Bo'ohw'o'wo'er? Bo'owo'er.

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Sentient Cardigan's avatar Sentient Cardigan @bairdlet.bsky.social
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ha'potato, ha'potato, ha'potato

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Louis C A's avatar Louis C A @bosslca.bsky.social
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Hottus Potatoeus

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Erik Renz's avatar Erik Renz @erenz88.bsky.social
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Raise your hand if you and your partner/friend/etc. spent the next 5 mins shouting hot potato at each other and giggling like school kids.

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Moderately Grouchy's avatar Moderately Grouchy @moderately-grouchy.bsky.social
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Also if you are an American overseas and trying to give the impression you are Canadian without saying are are Canadian, which is generally a good idea: Don't wear a cowboy hat Think back to grade school when you had to pronounce words Advanced: aspirate a few "t"s

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Moderately Grouchy's avatar Moderately Grouchy @moderately-grouchy.bsky.social
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Also in the US this leads to "mepew" jokes: Yank to Brit visitor in fast food restaurant: "I gotta pee. Can you order? Get me some mepew. They ask for it first." Brit goes to counter. Worker: "Mepew?"

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Moderately Grouchy's avatar Moderately Grouchy @moderately-grouchy.bsky.social
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I don't care, I'm never going to pronounce "nineteen" with a glottal stop. It's bigger than "eighteen" and deserves that lingering recognition of its two "n"s.

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Antonio's avatar Antonio @natanfechete.bsky.social
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Schwa

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hoppa taytoe

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Michael's avatar Michael @mykld.bsky.social
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Whayagonnadoabouit?

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Rep. Eric Gallager (no "h"!)'s avatar Rep. Eric Gallager (no "h"!) @egall.bsky.social
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I remember when I did theater in middle school, most of our diction practice was centered around unlearning these habits...

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Nefira's avatar Nefira @venabre.bsky.social
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I tried and I just sounded like I have a thick spanish accent Which I do

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Johnny Vector's avatar Johnny Vector @johnnyvector.bsky.social
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At my first job out of college I realized that when heading to the convenience store and being polite, we could (losslessly) compress “Do you want anything from across the street?” to “Wahngcrosstreet?”

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Lyndon Hood's avatar Lyndon Hood @lyndonhood.bsky.social
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q

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I think you'll find this only applies to Americans, thank you.

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Randy Coppinger's avatar Randy Coppinger @randycoppinger.bsky.social
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Professional announcers add and drop phonemes as naturally as most folks breathe. How sharp do you want that first T?

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A Silly Wolf-Fox's avatar A Silly Wolf-Fox @olivineharborqueer.bsky.social
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Mr. Andy Face's avatar Mr. Andy Face @andywardlaw.bsky.social
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I think you use a glottal stop, which is the same T that Americans use in "button" and "uh-oh."

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mjfrombuffalo's avatar mjfrombuffalo @mjfrombuffalo.bsky.social
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In choral singing, we have to learn to bring some of that back, but drop some consonants and mangle some vowels.

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Alex Remington's avatar Alex Remington @alexremington.bsky.social
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I often pronounce it as 'Ә, as in, "I'ma" ("I am going to").

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GillO's avatar GillO @gillo.bsky.social
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I think a lot depends on region/dialect. As a Brit from the Midlands I sound the "t" very easily. Slightly more formal diction, perhaps, but not robotic. A' all.

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KevDog's avatar KevDog @kevdog.bsky.social
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We studied this in my acting classes back in the day. I ended up going round and round with a pedantic jackass who insisted that the proper pronunciation of "red door" meant saying both "D"s.

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Tre's avatar Tre @eoauey.bsky.social
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Glottal stop is how you close the vowel.

Good times:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...

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(indistinct chatter)'s avatar (indistinct chatter) @indistinct-chatter.dev
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I'ma

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PatManDX's avatar PatManDX @patmandx.bsky.social
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AHHH GET THE WORMS OUT OF MY SINUSES

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Intellectual Explorer 's avatar Intellectual Explorer @driftingthrough.bsky.social
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Hod bodadoe

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Adam Ford's avatar Adam Ford @puttyhead.bsky.social
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My all-time favorite bit of the English language is the three schwa tones _‾‾–, which is obviously “i don’t know.”

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Sam D's avatar Sam D @sdunnewold.bsky.social
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Pronouncing the t in hot but dropping the p in potato to sound normal again

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Dhilrukshi Pathman's avatar Dhilrukshi Pathman @dhilrukshi.bsky.social
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So Australians aren't lazy, we're efficient.

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Shin Kerron's avatar Shin Kerron @shinkerron.bsky.social
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...Just tried saying hot potato aloud a few times I don't get what you mean by sounding like an alien. Maybe some accents go 'ha patato' or something?

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Colon Musk, CEO of GaceX's avatar Colon Musk, CEO of GaceX @themilfmag.net
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phonology is so fun

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Jady, but seriously.'s avatar Jady, but seriously. @rabid-child.bsky.social
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Hot potato, orchestra stalls, Puck will make amends.

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Linaboo's avatar Linaboo @linaboo8.bsky.social
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This is fascinating! I do this and have chided myself at times- but now I have an explanation!

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Matt Murphy, PhD's avatar Matt Murphy, PhD @mjosmurphy.bsky.social
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see also: "have you eaten yet?" --> "j'eet yet?"

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Benderdict Cumbenderbatch's avatar Benderdict Cumbenderbatch @benderdict.bsky.social
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Cool Hwhip

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Robert Makes Games's avatar Robert Makes Games @rjs.bsky.social
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When I'm presenting or public speaking, I'm constantly rewriting my next few sentences in my head for better flow of speech. It's wild how my brain just buckets "this will flow better than that" incredibly quickly.

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Lynoure's avatar Lynoure @lynoure.bsky.social
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My favourite IPA is this one!

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GTG3000's avatar GTG3000 @gtg3000.bsky.social
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I legit couldn't understand what the "hot potato" thing meant until I've read the comments. In my case, it turns into "gna" and "htptato", respectively.

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mynnna's avatar mynnna @mynnna.bsky.social
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…which is why (dialect or accent dependent) it’s not “pancake” but something closer “pangcake”

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Ayari, warrior of naps's avatar Ayari, warrior of naps @summonthedawn.bsky.social
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Oh, no, when I say it, it sounds like "hop-potata."

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Alun's avatar Alun @alunh.bsky.social
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Imma think about if it's possible to shorten it further

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Title text: "Thank you to linguist Gretchen McCulloch for teaching me about phonetic assimilation, and for teaching me that if you stand around in public reading texts from a linguist and murmuring example phrases to yourself, people will eventually ask if you're okay."

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