RIP to the sentence “Here, let me Google that for you,” the single most useful clapback of the 00s and 10s, killed by Google becoming absolutely useless for discovering any correct information whatsoever
Clearly you need to work on your google-fu because adding “wiki” after a search term still gets me a result I’ll settle with for lack of an alternative most of the time
I mean, Google’s results were always a little suss and had to be verified rather than just accepted but that’s even more true now. Or maybe there’s just more to sort through?
I guess I wasn't paying enough attention but it feels like it went from "fine/normal" to "borderline/useless" in the span of like a week. Everything suuuuuuucks.
Google failed twice as hard at this. When they rolled out their Chat-GPT competitor, they called it Bard? “Let me go over here instead and Bard that for you”?? It’s refreshing to see such a monolithic entity fall so hard over night. Gives hope.
And also the greatest source of my frustration I search for something, and the first result is from 10 years ago, with the accepted answer being "just Google it." I DID YOU MOTHERFUCKER AND LOOK WHERE IT GOT ME.
Holy shit yes. I'm trying to find outdoor speakers for an event and every single hit is an SEO-riddled content blog garbage pile for some totally unrelated product or service
it's super annoying when you're talking to someone who knows the definitive answer off the top of their head and they won't just give it to you. Especially when it would take less time to tell you than type out LMGTFY.
Time to return to our public libraries for reliable information - librarians are trained to assess validity of sources, consolidate data from multiple resources, and get the answer you need. For free.
In a recent episode of Star Trek Strange New Worlds, James T Kirk said "Guy at the Apple Store taught me how to use DuckDuckGo" which was one of the weirdest things I've ever heard in Trek.
It is really saying something that I now go back to Reddit for useful information on my esoteric hobbies (which is all of my hobbies, if I'm being honest). How did Google fuck this one up so soundly?
Google: “Don’t be evil.”
<a little later>
Google: “Ok we can have just a little evil, as a treat. We’ve earned it.”
<a little later>
Google: “We seek to cover all the lands with a second darkness.”
"Google it" is now more frequently the clarion call of the Boomer who has no fucking clue what they're talking about but thinks they saw it SOMEWHERE on the internet once.
I stopped using Google as my primary search engine over a decade ago, but I still use "google it". Let's keep saying it. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic...
In the early days we library folk knew it was faster to Google than to find a known item in our own online catalog. And all those nifty proximity tools.
Youth today don't appreciate the old Google. It's shit.
We as Elder Millennials/Xellennials/Gen X need to quickly teach those webring surfing and library/microfilm research skills we learned as youth to the Zoomers and Alpha kids so they can continue to use (accurate) knowledge for Chaotic Good
I forget where I heard it, but the idea now is you put whatever query you had into google and just add "reddit" at the end because the reddit results are generally better but reddit's search function sucks majorly. Weird how the internet kinda broke.
There's a parable here. Google built the single most useful research tool in the history of humanity over the course of 2 decades and obliterated its utility within 24 months because of greed.
Mhm. It has aged like milk.
I'm reminded of when I Googled "vegan cat diet" re: info on why that is a HORRIBLE idea (which it is!) and got greeted with the top results being instructions on how to feed them a vegan diet.
Fucking hell, Google, how you have fallen from grace.
So much of this is true.
For a while, I used Neeva exclusively as search. It failed as a business and so, back to Google.
I was truly, truly stunned at how mediocre it was at anything other than covering my screen with paid-for results. / more
Googling the name for the Norwegian Tax Office (Skatteetaten) now presents you with an ad for a fake version that tries to steal your national logon credentials. GG!
I typically use DDG, wifey prefers Bing for her uses.. never expected Google to lose their lead in search, imo if they ever kill Gmail that's the last major flag before they kill off Search and go full advertising and marketing/ spying on customer data and selling that
Also their assistant responses deteriorating dramatically over the last 24 months and their inability to stay relevant because they constantly kill every new service they launch within 18 months
There even was a site called something like let me google that for you and you could send people a link and when it opened would just show the whole process of the googling
Also I just bought a Google phone and it got stolen in the mail to the repair shop and they won't fill out a simple form so I can get compensation. Fuck Google.
I've gotten A/B test surveys from them for years and every question is like, "If we add this random trash to the top of the search results, how would you prefer it looks?"
Back when Google first became a thing, I could type my full name into Google and the first 6 pages of results were All links related to me and my posts. Now, unless I am a Belgian DJ kid, you got the wrong Dennis Cartier.
Feels at times like some older exec got mad that their granddaughter looked something up they didn't know so quickly, so they started sabotaging the working infrastructure out of spite.
bard and chatgpt are the future of search, they will work amazingly for a few years and then slowly start to suck and then those brain chips will seem super attractive...
It's remarkable how bad it's become. Even when searching for specific websites or actual named things the official link is buried beneath screeds of shitposter links, ads, and stupid AI prompts.
Also, good to see you on here! One more reason to never use Twitter again :)
Where's @caseynewton.bsky.social on this one? This is what LLMs are killing directly and quickly. "How major brands (HBO, Twitter, Google) are directly killing most effective marketing."
Since Google and Meta removed news sources in Canada I have had to vpn to find national news other than my usual sources. It means only the misinformation persists.
Actually, I would say "I am not your Google monkey" all the time, then I got a weeklong ban on Facebook because someone said it was racist. Apparently the old saying about 1000 monkeys with 1000 typewriters would be deemed racist as well.
This really became vivid to me last week when I was stuck in rural WA with a dying phone looking for a nearby locksmith to get into my car. Trying to discern which results are legit is now its own fun little research project.
And I’m not at all sure it’s a problem AI can solve, as it’s an endless arms race of generative models (ever since Markov models to LLMs) versus detection/classification/discrimination models. They don’t want to allowlist sites. But they must.
But when even mostly-legit media also post GPT content…
Cannot believe Google wrecked their primary product and infinite money machine cause some techbros created a copyright breaking predictive text machine.
Real "slam dick in car door" energy.
Besides, almost the entire first page now is dedicated to paid advertising links. The number of ads grow each year. Pretty soon we'll have to wade through pages of promoted links to get to anything meaningful.
I'm THIS CLOSE to quitting my job and creating a front-end for Wikidata/Wikipedia that can answer questions--but *accurately* and *doesn't rely on AI* to generate truth statements.
Unfortunately for me this is still very relevant and helpful to me for finding most resources, just use the right query and pay attention to your sources ...
Here, let me Google and sift through 5 pages of search-engine-optimized irrelevant content and promoted links for you.
Lacks the snark of the original, don't it?