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Django Wexler@djangowexler.bsky.social |
Look. I care about climate change a lot. I'm close to a single-issue voter on the subject! But we have GOT to stop worrying about what are, in the scheme of things, rounding errors. I hate, hate, hate this kind of personal-responsibility climate stuff, it's deeply counterproductive.
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Aafke Vultink
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Me; just use common sence my friend; buyer beware; that kinda shit. If you buy your meat know that paying 4 euro is not normal. Agriculture can't even get the lifestock food payed with that price. Letalone anything else on top of that. Just use common sence; that's all I ask.
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Reki Variede
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That's the point though, is it not? Keep people thinking that things like paper v plastic straws or ebook v paper book are the Real Issues, while companies keep getting a wrist slap for dumping chemicals in drinking water, or the fact the ocean plastic is largely fishing nets they just left there
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Josiah Shoup
@bywayofjosiah.bsky.social
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Agreed. There’s an ADAM RUINS EVERYTHING, where he convincingly argues that if we stopped using all paper tomorrow, the land for growing trees would be clear cut for some other commercial use and then never replanted.
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Kindler
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Agreed, I got my fill of “101 things you can do to save the planet” lists like 20 years ago. Elect public officials who aren’t in bed with fossil fuel lobbyists and hold their feet to the fire - end of story!
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grollen
@gnot.bsky.social
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*Smokey the Bear pointing at viewer meme Text reads: "Only You Can Save Humanity! "Buy Responsibly!"
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Graham Lea
@evolvable.bsky.social
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B.Mcghee
@flargle.bsky.social
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Article sponsored by BP
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Rutrow
@rutrow.bsky.social
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I'm a single-issue voter opposed to single-use items. Single use plastics Single use gasoline Single use books... Share your books and use libraries. 😃
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TrickyC (he/him)
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but if we can just correct 18,385 unique rounding error categories like this one on a global scale, we can get 6% closer to the survival goal !!
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Ozma
@rowyourbot.bsky.social
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It's more of a curiosity question but it's interesting to people who think about their own impact. I think it's fine for people to consider issues of one's own consumption so long as nobody believes this IS how we fight climate change. People want to pitch in and lower consumption...that seems OK?
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Robert Black
@hurricanexyz.bsky.social
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Life takes resources! Hence "sustainability" as the watchword, that the resources being used are no more than the earth's bounty provides
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Jomeo
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This is true for many things, but there is no way for people to consume dairy (over a 100% increase in cheese consumption per capita in the US over the last 40 years btw) and beef in the quantities that we do without lab grown/plant based alternatives.
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Katharine Hayhoe
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I’m a climate scientist and you are absolutely right. The most important thing anyone can do to fight climate change has nothing to do with our personal carbon footprints and everything to do with catalyzing systemic change! bsky.app/profile/kath...
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Bart Janssen
@bjjanssen.bsky.social
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Same And all these side discussions are a distraction by the oil companies BP invented personal climate footprints! If we don't stop burning oil nothing else matters
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Joey Aszterbaum, Oceanside REALTOR®
@joeyaszterbaum.bsky.social
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a. paper book b. E-book c. eat a billionaire
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Django Wexler
@djangowexler.bsky.social
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According to their data here (which is, for various reasons, wildly overstating the case) buying 3 paper books per month for four years yields roughly a metric ton of CO2. That's the equivalent of 110 gallons of gasoline. Less then 3,000 miles for a decent car!
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Sandy B.
@nebulousmenace.bsky.social
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*nods* As of 2022 Americans are down to under a pound of coal ash a day. I use that as a reference metric.
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Barb Cummings
@rahirah.bsky.social
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We listened to this this morning and when they got to the bit where they somberly talk about digital readers taking thirty-six books to break even, my wife and I looked at each other and burst out laughing.
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@greenowl.bsky.social
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"What's better for the climate? Paper books or e-readers?" Yes, both are good. Books are good in all forms. Get rid of crypto.
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Misandrosaurus Bex
@bexone.bsky.social
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Every single “hey look this thing that individuals control is a HYYYUUUUUUGE climate change thing!” article is a fucking psyop from the big corporations doing the actual measurable damage
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Symbo1ics
@symbo1ics.bsky.social
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NPR could have turned its cannons on to the 'ai' or cryptocurrency fraud and related astronomical energy use. I wonder why they didn't think of that.
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Dustin Du Cane
@dustinducane.bsky.social
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I read some nonsense recently about deleting emails and photos to save the climate. Yeah, because my family pics are a drop in the ocean of AI spamming each other.
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Alan Gardiner
@alang64.bsky.social
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Indulging in these rounding error activities does have a downside of making you feel smugly virtuous. Thr only way the developed world is going to start to make the changes needed is when they suffer catastrophic damage themselves, unfortunately ordinary citizens are going to suffer most.
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John Conor Ryan
@johnconorryan.bsky.social
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+1 Readers of books are without any doubt better custodians of the earth and citizens of humanity than ...
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A. David Lewis
@adlewis.bsky.social
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I’d argue, even, that a bigger contributor to the climate crisis is people who do not read at all!
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Doug Deasey
@dougdeasey.bsky.social
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Yeah I remember reading something about wirelessly charging your cell phone being less efficient than wired charging and like I don't think these are the decisions causing hurricanes to be worse and whatnot
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Dan "Toothpick" Shick
@datn.elaboratefiction.com
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but this is the stuff that makes the masses feel better without affecting the bottom line of any, you know, *real* people, as the billionaire class undoubtedly sees it.
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Diane M. Johnson
@caseyadamsstark.bsky.social
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Meanwhile, no one bats an eye at how much water the data centers to feed AI use consumes
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VoteBlue4ever
@voteblue4vr.bsky.social
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It's supposed to appeal to the American myth of rugged individualism. It's stupid.
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Palaeo3D
@palaeo3d.bsky.social
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Who "invented" the concept of the carbon footprint? EXXON 'nuff said.
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Aardvark Cheeselog
@wades.bsky.social
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Forget it, Jake, it's NPR
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Perfidious Pete
@perfidiouspete.bsky.social
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I like to think of it this way: this article says if we kill and eat all the rich assholes with private jets, we can buy as many books and e-readers as we all want, forever.
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Nurseferatu
@nurseferatu.bsky.social
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The planet will survive regardless. We will take a huge number of species with us when we go, but mass extinction events aren’t new. Survivors will evolve to fill the empty niches.
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Nurseferatu
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The massive population of humans on our finite planetary resources is the biggest threat to ourselves and other species. Pandemics, wars and pollution are the effects of our population pressure in the planet.
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Nurseferatu
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To be clear, I don’t see consumerism as the only cause, I see it as our biggest current contributor to the problem and barrier to effective solutions. Empire building, whether political or religious poses a global threat with WMDs.
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Nurseferatu
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These discussions are exactly like nearly every article on health. There is not any single correct answer in a complex system. It is like the ridiculous focus on plastic straws. “One simple answer” is an easy sell, but doesn’t actually work. Chaos theory is a hard sell!
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New Year’s Revolution ✊🏳️🌈
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Giant server farms for generative A.I. take a lot of resources. Full stop. There, gave you something bigger to focus on. Leave me and my kindle and hardcovers alone. 🤷♂️
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Marko The Comic
@markothecomic.bsky.social
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I've tried to stop using so much oxygen.
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hallie 🪶🗝️ 𓂆 فلسطين حرة 🇵🇸
@hotan.bsky.social
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we have BP to thank 🙃
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Boo-Rian Making Comics
@necroknights.bsky.social
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Like, I don’t pretend to be an expert. I’m sure the options I’m about to mention have their pitfalls, but we’ve had the ability to recycle paper for decades & make make paper from hemp for over a century. Couldn’t we reduce the carbon footprint more significantly by changing the means of production?
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Daryl Gregory
@darylwriterguy.bsky.social
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I get your point— but I read the article and was glad i did, because I didn’t know if trad pub’s footprint vs e-pub’s was a rounding error or not. This argument— how can you write books if they kill trees?—comes up a lot.
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MindCrime
@mindcrime.bsky.social
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Like one concrete building project will dwarf all the book sales in environmental impact. Or.. We could stop printing popular books like The Bible
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Dharhix
@dharhix.com
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"Here we have these things which are making 90% of the climate change problems. Now, let's be sensible and think about the 10% after we've backhandedly discarded discourse and real regulation of the 90%."
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David Henningham 🏳️🌈
@henninghampress.bsky.social
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Especially because nobody who writes these things really knows how things are made. Do they compare... straight to plate litho technology to spent toner cartridges/readers, for example? No, they do not.
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gregladen.bsky.social
@gregladen.bsky.social
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OK but every character in your post has its own tiny little Carbon footprint!
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Thomas Knapp (chemiclord)
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Well, the alternative is to take note and demand change of big corporations and industry that are comprising the overwhelming bulk of pollution and carbon buildup in the atmosphere. And we can't have THAT, now can we?
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Great Deceiver
@greatdeceiver.bsky.social
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100% BP and Chevron would rather have us all arguing about the carbon footprint of fucking e-books. Of course they would
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The real Fossil Chops
@factorone.bsky.social
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We should be constantly pointing out that the single largest carbon emitter on the planet is hands down the United States military, and it isn't even close.
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Arriviste houso
@sunnydarkgreen.bsky.social
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Yeah but nah, bang the drum on the big picture stuff for sure but its inhuman to tell people their daily lives & small choices don't matter. We all need to maintain the illusion of mattering, not least to ourselves, and living lightly is one way of expressing love for all creatures.
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Debate Stomping Robot
@jwatte.bsky.social
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Not to mention, the "your personal climate footprint" idea was a campaign invented by BP (!) to diffuse blame and keep people fatigued (!) Carbon emissions must price in their externalities. That's the only thing that will work.
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Roland Guiscard
@rolandguiscard.bsky.social
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"Which is better for the planet: turning off your PC, or turning off your lights?" "In other news, a celebrity you don't care about burned more jet fuel than you will in your entire life flying from one part of LA to another part of LA for a sandwich."
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wednesday
@mx0x20wednesday.bsky.social
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at least they aren't trying to kill asthmatics with this take 🥲
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Ryan Hubbs
@matthewryan.bsky.social
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Yup. Even the idea that “I’ll buy an EV to help save the environment” completely misses the fact that oil is a global market/commodity. Say half the people care and buy an EV. Gas prices go down, and the other half who don’t GAF will just buy bigger pickups because they can afford to fill them up.
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Dr. Prakash Kashwan
@pkashwan.bsky.social
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When it comes to reporting on climate change NPR is pretty run-of-the-mill category!
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Tobias Denskus
@aidnography.de
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Unless the story reads “publishers print X amount of fewer books to reduce impact on climate” the story makes no sense; once a book is printed and in the supply chain your personal decision to buy fewer books will almost guaranteed be close to meaningless
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Jay Schiavone
@jaytingle.bsky.social
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That’s @npr.org, baby!
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Graceful Six Humoured
@saturnexalted.bsky.social
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Unless you're Taylor Swift and producing 180 tons of carbon with your private jet so far this year, the personal responsibility thing for minuscule stuff like this is nonsense. Like, yeah, if you can change your source of heating and cooling in your home, go for it, but we're doing it for BOOKS?
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Eve Nicholls
@evenicholls.bsky.social
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All the ads I get for supposedly greener items, like bamboo toothbrushes or what have you, clearly expect you to throw out whatever you're using already and buy them NOW NOW NOW. And there's a hell of a lot of greenwashing when it comes to textiles made from bamboo, incidentally.
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Jennifer Griffin Graham
@jgriffingraham.bsky.social
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Plastic-straw-ass environmentalism
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MisterJayEm
@misterjayem.bsky.social
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Well, maybe if you sorted your recycling better...
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Block+Move on
@honestthief.bsky.social
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I say this all the time. ONE billionaire asshole decides to take a rocket into not-quite-space and (large scale) wipes out everything a million households have been trying to (small scale) do.
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