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Ketan Joshi@ketanjoshi.co |
That American car companies are absolutely losing their tiny minds over a Chinese company selling a normal-sized and somewhat affordable EV is such a perfect illustration of how profoundly broken they all are, only able to build and sell expensive wankpanzers
electrek.co/2024/03/22/b...
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Siva the cheetah virus
@sivacheetah.bsky.social
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They still need a roof top solar panel I need to clarify this isn't going to run the car it's just nice to have a little bit of battery charging while it's parked for some odd hours while you're at work or in the driveway doing grocery shopping Etc independent of electric pump locations
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@filthyjasminetea.bsky.social
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Wankpanzer is my new favourite noun
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NoHomers Diary
@nohomers.bsky.social
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As long as it passes all safety laws then great. I do wonder where they're cutting corners though.
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Alex Seymore
@wxaseymore.bsky.social
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I would be driving electric immediately if this was available in the US.
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Decker Doberman
@deckerdoberman.bsky.social
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"wankpanzer" is my new favourite term for shitty oversized American cars.
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CircusNoBread
@berkeleyeve.bsky.social
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as someone who worked a car lot for years this gives me immense satisfaction to contemplate...
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EssaysConcern
@richarderskine.bsky.social
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Yeh, and the flipping from ‘EVs too expensive’ to ‘EVs too cheap’ is just classic. If (no when) we get EVs with greater range than petrol cars it’ll be flipped range anxiety ‘EVs are really going too far this time!’
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BoulderSizedBoulder ✡️🇺🇦
@rocksizedrock.bsky.social
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Jesus Christ American manufacturers are calling this fairly priced vehicle "a steal" this sort of shit makes China look like a better country than the USA.
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Dana R. Fisher (aka the Apocalyptic Optimist)
@fisherdanar.bsky.social
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🤣🤣
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Tolu Oloruntoba
@toluini.bsky.social
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‘Wankpanzer’ is such a magnificent descriptor. Thank you for your service. 🫡
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Mark Shore
@markshore.bsky.social
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but even with smaller European cars sold in North America oh, you want [this specific feature]? that only comes with [this trim level] and [this package] and [these options], for an combined $$$$ more
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NutMeg
@casuallychaotic.bsky.social
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An affordable and practical design that isn't trying to make itself into a meme? I bet they don't even have a proprietary charging port which makes them incompatible with other companies' charging stations, so they can force a monopoly for their own products.
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Jens Müller
@jens0331.bsky.social
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You could also mention the German car industry. But specifically German, a party of the ruling coalition blocks most governmental funded research into EV's.
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SkottiK
@skottichan.bsky.social
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Eh, if it's safe, I'm on board. Tho pretty happy with our Bolt, cost about $15K after discounts and the EV tax credit.
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Navel Jelly
@navaljelly.bsky.social
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Congress will try to outlaw these affordable cars faster than you can say, "TikTok."
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Zach D Roberts
@zdroberts.bsky.social
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“Wankpanzer” is just perfection.
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Raygan 🧶
@ramblindragon.bsky.social
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It's kinda like the Volkswagen all over again. I hope US automakers learn from this and make US EVs far more affordable than they currently are.
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The American Civil War Podcast
@uscivilwar.bsky.social
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It's more the economics; as a smaller-car driver myself American automakers would absolutely build more but they don't sell as well. And in the case of electric vehicles specifically the batteries are... not cheap.
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kayfabe schadenfreude
@goblinbox.com
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'wankpanzer' is so perfect it made me snort my cocktail out my nose, so well done there
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Patchouli Woollahra
@woollahra.bsky.social
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It's not all good news... do you know just how many BYDs go thermal incident in China annually? They will need to satisfy American safety standards to get sold in America.
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Robert
@rhruthe.bsky.social
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Fair warning: I'ma stealing "wankpanzer".
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Amateur Expert Opinions
@amateurexpertop.bsky.social
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"wankpanzer" is so perfect, that's a coinage worth circulating
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Kira
@kmaustinyoung.bsky.social
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I currently drive a 10-year-old Honda Fit, and I had a realization watching car commercials that, if had to replace it tomorrow, there’s almost nothing similar out there anymore.
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EnberLight - Comms Open!
@enberlight.bsky.social
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How normal-sized? Compact, subcompact? If I could get a new sedan for 10k I'd be so damn happy. Can't even get decent used for that right now. They need to take note faster :p
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Snacktaku
@snacktaku.bsky.social
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wait so you're allowed to make EV's that don't weigh two tonnes and cost an entire country's GDP?!
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Kaitlin Has Had Enough
@gothamgirlblue.com
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📌
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Messire Nicolas
@messirenicolas.bsky.social
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I'm going to steal the word 'wankpanzer'
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TitaniumMan
@titaniumman.bsky.social
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I'm curious how much more it would cost if it had to meet US safety standards.
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Bob
@trebuchetguy.bsky.social
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Thanks for the post. I hope others are catching on. I want to buy an EV. I do not want to buy a smartphone with wheels requiring subscriptions, laden with DRM, and requiring weekly software updates. I want an EV with the features of my 2004 Volvo.
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Laustia 🏳️🌈
@laustia.bsky.social
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We also pay for the privilege of advertising for said American car companies everywhere we go.
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Sandmanneke
@sandmanneke.bsky.social
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Deja vu, it's like that time when Japanese car's flooded the car market in the US.
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Sir Tonk
@sirtonk.bsky.social
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They've made small cars many times, Americans don't buy them though. Perhaps America needs something like the kei car standard in Japan
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pyoor
@pyoorkate.bsky.social
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Fortunately for them the US is utterly protectionist and completely f'kin weird about small cars. So the amount of work to get affordable EVs here is enormous. On the plus side, maybe we'll eventually get high speed rail instead. *laughs hollowly*
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Bruno
@boweaver11.bsky.social
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🤔 what happened to free market competition 🤷🏾♂️🙄 never was never been
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SkyIce
@skyice.bsky.social
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Honestly, I am very skeptical at that price. Under 20k? Sure. Under 10k? I have questions.
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eschneider
@eschneider.bsky.social
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Does that car meet US safety standards? I expect it’ll be rather more expensive once they engineer for that. Making an inexpensive EV isn’t so hard if you’re not worried about certification and reliability and NVH concerns. That said, looks interesting.
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@jnordstrom.bsky.social
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Wankpanzer is my new favorite word. I bought an iD4 a few years ago and was bummed they didn’t offer the iD3 in the US. Self-conscious about driving a big SUV, I was relieved the first time I parked next to an average-looking Nissan SUV that was absolutely enormous compared to mine.
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The Heat Dome
@theheatdome.bsky.social
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Let me know when the IIHS gets done with it. $10K? Was it built by slaves? Or is it a dressed up golf cart?
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Tim Salmon
@canotuna.bsky.social
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“Wankpanzers” is the term I’ve been waiting for.
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Glen Jackson
@glenjackson.bsky.social
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expensive wankpanzers 🤣
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Maddi
@matte-gender.bsky.social
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decent enough range too. always felt like EVs were solely marketed as luxury so that dealers and car manufacturers can just jack up the prices for no reason
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Hoplite The Wallaby
@armoredscout.bsky.social
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Don't worry, American companies will see how affordable it is and say "ayup we could make this worse AND more expensive"
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Greg Robins
@gregrobins.bsky.social
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I’d import one of these today!
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Engels in the Outfield
@nostaticatall.bsky.social
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A couple years ago I spent $11k for a 2011 Versa with >100k miles. How can I get these people to take my money
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K____ B: new gender who dis
@wowcoolrobot.bsky.social
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they way their nearest equivalent costs $20k in Brazil & Ford is planning a $25k for 2026 makes me feel like the Big 3 gearing up to take on both Tesla (which is super subsidized and pushes towards brand name and faux luxury) & Chinese imports makes me hopeful we'll see stuff in the 15-25 for urban
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Nfinit
@nfinit.bsky.social
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So what's the catch; does it get annihilated in NHTSA tests?
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His Bark Materials🏳️⚧️🏳️🌈🌌
@oneiriccanid.bsky.social
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“Wankpanzers” is a /wonderful/ insult and I shall be stealing it for future use post-haste. Thank you!
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@granitegeeknh.bsky.social
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I'd love to blame the car companies but Americans prefer bigger vehicles and always have. Foolish us. The car companies have followed where we have led them.
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Haunty
@haunty.bsky.social
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I doubt a US version would cost that little, but even 25k could be reasonable.
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@georgethomas.bsky.social
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And at the car companies' instigation Biden is giving them relief on pollution standards and on the date by which cars have to be electric or hybrid. They have no plans to ever change from internal combustion engines.
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joqatana
@joqatana.bsky.social
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Does it come in hybrid?
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All Saints Dae
@ourdailybadge.bsky.social
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I guess I don’t see a reason to trust the framing other than BYD’s marketing team thinks it will work
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@gknb.bsky.social
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This is a start, but once humans are removed from the factory floor, I imagine $10k will be the average price of a car like this (Chinese or otherwise). What are we talking about? 5-10 years time?
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Luis Ortego
@cambiodesentido.bsky.social
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Companies are reckless this days. This chinese guys may be selling these cars at loss in the hope of gaining market share and make their rivals derail. No western company would or has ever done that before, right? RIGHT?!?
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El Topo
@eltopo71.bsky.social
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It's going to be very barebones at $10k. The Nissan Versa is the cheapest car currently available in America and it's going for around $17k, and it doesn't need batteries. I'd be suspicious of the numbers. It's going to be cheap but not that cheap.
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Storlom 🇵🇱🇺🇦🇵🇸
@storlom.bsky.social
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$10k for a new car is VERY affordable, as far as cars go.
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Blue Texas
@jacksuggs.bsky.social
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"Auto execs in the US, Europe, and Japan never thought Chinese EVs were a threat. Now they’re coming to wipe the floor with their Western counterparts."
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@ljevans.bsky.social
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It's not even sold in America.
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Blue Meme
@bluememe.bsky.social
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Kind of a replay of what Japanese imports offered after the oil crises of the 1970s.
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Nice Footpaws
@ionotter.bsky.social
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I'm for it, save for ONE THING that I demand of *ALL* manufacturers. 𝙄, 𝒂𝙣𝒅 𝑰 𝒂𝙡𝒐𝙣𝒆, 𝙙𝒆𝙘𝒊𝙙𝒆 𝒘𝙝𝒂𝙩 𝙄 𝙘𝒂𝙣 𝙤𝒓 𝒄𝙖𝒏𝙣𝒐𝙩 𝙙𝒐 𝒘𝙞𝒕𝙝 𝙢𝒚 𝒐𝙬𝒏 𝒑𝙧𝒐𝙥𝒆𝙧𝒕𝙮. If they'll let me root around in it's guts and modify it how *I* like, then I'm all on board. Do that with a Wankpanzer and you get a phone call in 5 minutes.
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Nataly 🏳️⚧️
@nightpups.bsky.social
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Feel like it's still really big, but maybe it is using small tires?
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JonS253
@jons253.bsky.social
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I imagine US cars could be made less expensively too, if they could use political prisoners as slave labor.
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Julie - TrexPushups
@trexpushups.bsky.social
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I had to pay 9k for a 2014 VW Jetta. A new electric car for 10k would be amazing
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John Northey
@johnnorthey.bsky.social
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Need that here in Canada. Fewer ego cars.
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MDK
@mattdkerr.bsky.social
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after protectionist import taxes, what will it be, though... probably $20K
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Zeroisanumber
@zeroisanumber.bsky.social
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You sell me an ev for under 10k with decent safety features and I'll be a customer for life.
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Villain Of Legend (Vtuber)
@villainoflegend.bsky.social
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Cars that are actually affordable?! What a groundbreaking concept.
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Harry Finch
@harryfinch.bsky.social
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A friend explained once, it's a car, not your living room.
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Happyroach
@ericthetolle.bsky.social
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I'm rather amused by all the randos in here desperately scrambling for reasons why this isn't actually a usable car.
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@piening4thefjords.bsky.social
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"Wankpanzer" will now forever be part of my vocabulary.
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Elliot Ghoul
@elliotghoul.bsky.social
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They do this reliably every ten years. They’ll panic, crank out a shitty version then proclaim Americans only want big cars, after dumping them, en masse, off an aircraft carrier
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birdie
@idiocracy.bsky.social
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Does it spy as well?! Lolz
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JoyComethInTheMorning
@sheadapts.bsky.social
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Good for them. Japan did something similar.
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Periwinkle Pachyderm
@periwinklep.bsky.social
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I parked next to a 90s model Toyota Tacoma today and it was perfect and tiny but still had a decent sized bed, much larger than the stupid huge trucks out now. There is no truck even close to that functional on the market in the USA today. I bet the owner gets offers on it daily.
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ArchDad
@aaronmw.bsky.social
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I can't stress this enough, but are you aware of how much the Avg. BYD assembly line worker makes compared to the US. Absolutely we prioritize big vehicles...but seriously...the reason they can sell a vehicle like this is due to slave wages.
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@aholmesian.bsky.social
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Pah! Does it need masking tape before a car wash to stop it from falling apart from corrosion? Thought not! *That’s* what a cutting edge American EV in the year 2024 looks like, ok? Not this sort of it-just-works-and-is-super-affordable nonsense!
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Patrick Hardy
@patrickdhardy.bsky.social
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US EVs are called WankPershings, thank you very much
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Misdemeanorous Monk
@keyboardwarrior.bsky.social
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Wankpanzer is a MAGNIFICENT name for a British punk-industrial band, but a terrible name for a Ben & Jerry's ice cream flavor.
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Scooter
@opusminus.bsky.social
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If these ever make it to our shores they will shake things up...!
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Nick Harkaway
@harkaway.bsky.social
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Just taking a moment to glory in the expression “wankpanzer”
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Taco Pastorius
@edmur.bsky.social
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It’s the Howard from the underrated Larry David film, Clear History
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I Dissent Cha Cha
@rachacha.bsky.social
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'Wankpanzers" earns a RT from me 👍
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Ketan Joshi
@ketanjoshi.co
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I know I've said this before but truly, none of them will ever match the sheer adrenaline rush of a company selling a product called BUILD YOUR DREAMS: SEAGULL HONOR
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Manu 🌊🐳🐦⬛🏔️🌎
@manelcamacho.bsky.social
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As someone said to me some years ago, it's impressive that the most basic car has all the features of a high end cat without the price... and yes, he was talking about cars sold in the Western continent D:
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Daniel Patrick Rodrigues
@daparo.bsky.social
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I paid 30,000 for my used Bolt. If someone said to me you have to learn one other language in the world or die, I’d learn Chinese
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Rebecca Taylor
@beccaet.bsky.social
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Does it not occur to US car companies to recognise what the EV market wants and try to develop a suitable product offer? #Capitalism101
p.s. From a European perspective, most American cars are impractically big & expensive to run. VW Golf (normal sized car in UK) is considered really small!
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clärk
@oksettledown.bsky.social
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wankpanzers
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@stephenokin.bsky.social
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What’s lost in this incredibly poor take is the fact that Chinese auto firms are the recipients of ungodly amounts of subsidies from Beijing. BYD’s push here is not the result of natural market forces but rather the externalization of artificially subdued domestic demand inside of China.
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Joad The Wet Sprocket
@joadsprocket.bsky.social
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One of those, please
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@phil-odendron.bsky.social
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Good! re fear. American consumers are tired of being the host bodies for corporate greed.
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@helchose.bsky.social
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Huh. My wife wants a small EV because she doesn't like big cars. This one would likely interest her.
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mmmm, paint chips
@shamr0cker.bsky.social
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American men will run climb corporate ladders of car companies to run into the ground instead of going to therapy
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A Weariness
@manybooks.bsky.social
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Just like they lost business to the Japanese decades ago, because American car companies were only building behemoth gas-guzzlers back then.
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