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Noel French

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Can anyone recommend sci fi or fantasy lit that features a legal matter as a major plot point? Reskeets appreciated.

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Jesper Haglund's avatar Jesper Haglund @jesperhaglund.bsky.social
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Sword of Fire by Katherine Kerr (the Deverry series in general, but that one in particular). Swordspoint by Ellen Kushner And possibly (bit hazy on the details), The Warrior's Bond by Juliet E McKenna.

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Silly B Man's avatar Silly B Man @lawnerd.bsky.social
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Bicentennial Man

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Sarah Manvel's avatar Sarah Manvel @cairdiul.bsky.social
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The Memory Police by Yoko Ogawa

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ErichV's avatar ErichV @erichv.bsky.social
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Provenance by Ann Leckie had the veracity of legal documents as a central plot point, if I remember correctly.

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David Mack's avatar David Mack @davidmack.bsky.social
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In my Star Trek: TNG novel COLLATERAL DAMAGE, Captain Picard faces an Article 32 hearing (an inquest used to determine if evidence warrants a general court-martial). I based the protocols and verbiage of the court scenes on real Article 32 transcripts. davidmack.pro/writing/collateral-damage/

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Arhat's avatar Arhat @arhat.bsky.social
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Others have mentioned it already, but Max Gladstone's Craft Sequence. This section of his website pitches it better than I ever could: “The Craft Sequence books are set in a postindustrial fantasyland: gods with shareholders’ committees, necromancers in pinstriped suits, and soulstuff as currency.”

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mjec's avatar mjec @mjec.net
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It's only like 500 words but Asimov's A Loint of Paw always comes to mind

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Deborah's avatar Deborah @deborah-c.bsky.social
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Mindswap, Robert Sheckley (1966) Three Parts Dead, Max Gladstone

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Dana Priebe's avatar Dana Priebe @queenofnopants.bsky.social
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Technically, and I mean very technically, Space Opera by @catvalente.bsky.social features a legal matter as the main conflict in the book. It's just that the legal matter is resolved as Space Eurovision.

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INTERZONE's avatar INTERZONE @interzone.press
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Jennifer Jeanne McArdle’s ‘Dream Logs After One End of the World’ – ‘art, nostalgia, algorithms, with a woman on trial for writing a blog post about her dream’ – maybe?

cosmorama.site/fiction/drea...

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Madame Hardy's avatar Madame Hardy @madamehardy.bsky.social
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Gladiator-at-law, Fred Pohl.

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David C B's avatar David C B @tzed250.bsky.social
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Isn't there an Ian M Banks book centered on trial?

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Nicholas Qualls's avatar Nicholas Qualls @nicholasqualls.bsky.social
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Year Zero by Robert Reid is sci-fi novel dealing with aliens trying to deal with the legal implications of accidentally pirating human music for decades.

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Nina Melechen's avatar Nina Melechen @ninamelechen.bsky.social
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Cyteen deals with legal ramifications of being a clone.

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tru's avatar tru @tootru.bsky.social
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Elizabeth Bonesteel's Central Corps series has several legal plot points, including a murder charge that must be defended in the first book (The Cold Between)

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Steve J. Wright's avatar Steve J. Wright @stevejwright.bsky.social
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Obscure old stuff: Lloyd Biggle Jr.'s "Monument" largely concerns a court case.

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mjfgates's avatar mjfgates @mjfgates.bsky.social
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Melissa Scott's "Roads of Heaven" trilogy opens with an extremely sexist probate hearing for an estate that sets up everything, and more sexist law events get kind of sprinkled throughout the books. First volume is "Five Twelfths of Heaven."

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Shatter Ⓥ 𓅃's avatar Shatter Ⓥ 𓅃 @shatter.bsky.social
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Frank Herbert's Whipping Star & Dosadi Experiment. Same universe/characters. Gets very heavy into what would be called Xeno Legal Systems. Eg: part of a Gowachin trial is molting your skin. Whipping Star is a Novella. Dosadi full book.

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Liz Copeland 's avatar Liz Copeland @lizcopeland.bsky.social
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Doodles's avatar Doodles @doodlesthegreat.bsky.social
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Quozl by Alan Dean Foster

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Kingfisher & Wombat's avatar Kingfisher & Wombat @tkingfisher.com
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Gibbon’s Decline And Fall by Sheri Tepper.

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Mark Ensley's avatar Mark Ensley @markensley.bsky.social
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The Dingilliad series by David Gerrold.

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Corinna Bechko's avatar Corinna Bechko @corinnabechko.bsky.social
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The Dispossessed by Ursula K. Le Guin

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K.V. Johansen's avatar K.V. Johansen @kvjohansen.bsky.social
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Cryoburn and A Civil Campaign both do. (Bujold.)

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A Wooloo for all seasons's avatar A Wooloo for all seasons @mockwooloo.bsky.social
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Eando Binder's story "I, Robot" and it's follow-ups - not to be confused with Asimov's later book - features a robot put on trial for murder. It was loosely adapted for both the 60s and 90s series of The Outer Limits, featuring Leonard Nimoy both times

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George W Harris's avatar George W Harris @bullcityfats.bsky.social
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John Varley's "Golden Globe" ends with the trial of the protagonist for the murder or his father. H. Beam Piper's "Lone Star Planet" also ends with a trial.

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George W Harris's avatar George W Harris @bullcityfats.bsky.social
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Two Star Trek (TOS) episodes featured court martials. The two-parter "The Menagerie" centered on the court martial of Mr. Spock for kidnapping Captain Pike and going to the forbidden planet Talos IV. "Court Martial" centered on a court martial of Captain Kirk for the death of a crewman.

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David Seaver's avatar David Seaver @davidseaver.bsky.social
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Glen Cook's Garrett, P.I. books are set in a fantasy world. There are some laws, although they're a bit arbitrary and mostly about property and inheritance for the rich. The main character is an investigator who is just trying to thread his way through it all, and not get killed by, say, unicorns.

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James Felix Black's avatar James Felix Black @tft.io
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THE FACE, one of Jack Vance's delightful DEMON PRINCES pentad, has a (spurious) legal proceeding as a driver of the early parts of the book.

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Liana Brooks's avatar Liana Brooks @lianabrooks.bsky.social
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All of the Vatta's War series comes to mind.

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Chris Huth's avatar Chris Huth @umlauthuth.bsky.social
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Frank Herbert's BuSab stories centre around Jorj X. McKie, a space lawyer who knows space frog law and is also dating a star.

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Dave Finberg's avatar Dave Finberg @dfinberg.bsky.social
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Three parts dead

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A Memory Called Empire by Arkady Martine might scratch that itch, though I wouldn't call it a courtroom drama.

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Sean Eric Fagan's avatar Sean Eric Fagan @kithrup.bsky.social
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Swordheart by @tkingfisher.bsky.social
Legal Rites, a short by Isaac Asimov
Box Office Poison, by Phillipa Bornikova

The aforementioned Craft Sequence by @maxgladstone.bsky.social

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BionicDance's avatar BionicDance @bionicdance.bsky.social
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THIS: "A Civil Campaign" by Lois McMaster Bujold Thing is...it's, like, book eight or nine or twelve in the series, so it might not make a lot of sense. But the whole thing revolves around a succession among the lords of this disproportionately-significant-for-its-size space empire.

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Tired Art Goblin's avatar Tired Art Goblin @spaceturtleart.bsky.social
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@tkingfisher's Swordheart features a disputed inheritance as the main plot point :)

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Keith Edwards's avatar Keith Edwards @kedwards.bsky.social
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Little Fuzzy, by @scalzi.com is a full on courtroom drama with aliens. It’s also funny!

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Iysha's avatar Iysha @iamiysha.bsky.social
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Also Max Gladstone’s Three Parts Dead. The main character is a type of lawyer.

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The Prankster: Spocking Fives's avatar The Prankster: Spocking Fives @prankster36.bsky.social
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Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell starts with Norrell using his legal muscle to break up a magician's org, though no one ends up actually going to court

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Robin Shantz's avatar Robin Shantz @bloginhood.bsky.social
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Robert J. Sawyer is no stranger to courtroom scenes in his books. You may want to check out his short story "Just like old times" as a first bite.

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Mary Aileen's avatar Mary Aileen @patchworkmouse.bsky.social
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John Hemry/Jack Campbell's JAG in Space series.

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Jon Olfert's avatar Jon Olfert @jonolfert.bsky.social
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Lotta good stuff out there so I'm going to take a moment to plug one of mine, a Neolithic, uh, courtroom drama. www.beneath-ceaseless-skies.com/stories/a-fo...

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Bill Stewart's avatar Bill Stewart @billstewart.bsky.social
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The Last Binding series by Freya Marske (2024 Hugo nom for best series) involves contracts between magicians and the land, though disputes aren't resolved in courtrooms and inheritance happens directly.

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Paul Gowder's avatar Paul Gowder @paulgowder.bsky.social
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The craft stuff by @maxgladstone.bsky.social

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Mythplaced_Logic's avatar Mythplaced_Logic @mythplacedlogic.bsky.social
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Cannot recommend the Miles Vorkosigan books enough. Several of the books have legal and political investigations come up & they’re just generally awesome novels. The Mountains of Mourning is the one that specifically comes to mind but the series addresses things like that in several others as well.

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Wil Sterling's avatar Wil Sterling @shadowvasterra.bsky.social
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Babylon 5, S1:E12 - Any Means Necessary. Union busting via legislated illegal strikes in the aftermath of workplace accidents (in spaaaaace), culminating in a hellacious “read the fine print” moment for the episode’s antagonist

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Dr Vinca, PhD's avatar Dr Vinca, PhD @vincaminor42.bsky.social
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@tkingfisher.bsky.social's White Rat books are named after a whole church of lawyers, with a couple books actually featuring court cases: Swordheart is about a woman trying to get her inheritance back from inlaws, and Paladin's Grace has an attempted murder trial

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Effie Seiberg 's avatar Effie Seiberg @effies.bsky.social
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@maxgladstone.bsky.social 's Craft Sequence might be perfect for you. It's all lawyer-magic.

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avery larsen 's avatar avery larsen @guion11.bsky.social
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Sorry if self-promo is weird in this context…but the book I just published last week is about financial and legal contracts in Hell

www.amazon.com/Marginal-Vir...

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Kate Elliott's avatar Kate Elliott @kateelliottsff.bsky.social
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Katharine Kerr's fantasy novel Sword of Fire specifically hinges on a search for a law book to deal with a legal matter. Part of the Deverry sequence but stands alone as both entry (no need to read previous books) and with narrative closure

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Olivececile's avatar Olivececile @olivececile.bsky.social
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I’m currently reading A Long Trip to a Small Angry Planet. It’s more episodic so hard to say what is major but two main characters become entangled in a legal situation that gets into one jurisdiction respecting the laws of another (more going on but don’t want to spoil).

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Adrian Tchaikovsky's avatar Adrian Tchaikovsky @aptshadow.bsky.social
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Translation State by Leckie. My own Eyes of the Void (a bit). Star Trek’s Measure of a Man maybe. Herbert’s Dosadi Experiment.

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David Petterson's avatar David Petterson @davidpetterson.bsky.social
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The Witness for the Dead by Katherine Addison is the first in a trilogy set in a “fantasy with light steam punk touches” world. The series follows a character who witnesses for the dead to achieve some measure of justice within the legal system.

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Mary Sue's avatar Mary Sue @marysuesays.bsky.social
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T Kingfisher has a whole Order of the White Rat which has Adjudicators Sacrosanct who help folks who can't afford lawyers with legal matters. SWORDHEART is about a woman who inherits a magical sword with a human soul inside, and she turns to the Order to help with a legal issue.

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Gragsmasher Yeti's avatar Gragsmasher Yeti @geecaret2.bsky.social
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The novel Monument by Lloyd Biggle Jr turns on legal issues. A crash landed prospector realizes that the paradise world's natives would be destroyed once it was discovered, so he creates a plan to thwart the invasion. Lots of dirty tricks.

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Fenix's avatar Fenix @draconicfenix.bsky.social
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The third book of the Star Wars (Legends) X-Wing series features a murder trial for events in the second book. The suspect in question is suspected of being a double-agent and selling his teammate out to the Empire. (Trying to be vague to avoid spoilers)

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R.J. Anderson's avatar R.J. Anderson @rj-anderson.bsky.social
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Jo Walton’s TOOTH AND CLAW features a legal dispute between dragons. Who wear hats. It’s great.

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Jessica Finn 🏳️‍⚧️ 's avatar Jessica Finn 🏳️‍⚧️ @pelicanismo.bsky.social
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frank herbert wrote sf books with a space lawyer protag: whipping star (1970), the dosadi experiment (1977) i seem to remember some essentially legal confrontations in these books

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Stephen Kotowych's avatar Stephen Kotowych @ourmankoto.bsky.social
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Robert J Sawyer's novel Illegal Alien www.amazon.ca/Illegal-Alie...

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Christopher Colton's avatar Christopher Colton @darktzeratul.bsky.social
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The Last Dance by Martin L. Shoemaker, about an investigator looking into a recent mutiny about a Mars-Earth transport ship.

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Malda Marlys 🦇🦇🦇 🏳️‍🌈's avatar Malda Marlys 🦇🦇🦇 🏳️‍🌈 @aardwyrm.bsky.social
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A.Y. Chao's Shanghai Immortal and Em X. Liu's If Found, Return to Hell are of the "dealing with hell is basically contract law" fantasy variety. On the SF side, lots of dystopian fiction hinges on struggles with bad law. Marisa Crane's I Keep My Exoskeletons to Myself comes to mind.

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Brit's avatar Brit @britvulcan.bsky.social
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T Kingfisher’s Swordheart revolves around an inheritance dispute including a court scene.

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Gav Thorpe's avatar Gav Thorpe @gavthorpe.bsky.social
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The Billiard Ball, by Asimov? Well, lots of his Robot stories (and Caves of Steel series) revolve around Laws.

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Max Kaehn's avatar Max Kaehn @mithriltabby.bsky.social
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In Max Gladstone’s Craft Sequence, contract law is magically binding and “lawyer” and “necromancer” are pretty much the same job. The first book, THREE PARTS DEAD, involves dealing with the contractual obligations of a dead god...

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David Goldfarb's avatar David Goldfarb @davidgoldfarb.bsky.social
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H. Beam Piper's LITTLE FUZZY ends in a court case trying to determine whether the titular fuzzies are sapient. John Scalzi's rewrite FUZZY NATION does likewise.

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Diana the Gaming Gamer Who Games. USE ALT TEXT. (She/her)'s avatar Diana the Gaming Gamer Who Games. USE ALT TEXT. (She/her) @diana2112gaming.bsky.social
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I don't know if C.S. Friedman's "In Conquest Born" would count, but I'd suggest it none the less. It's heavily political and has a good bit of legal in it? Two groups vying for control of territory via proxy war, super interesting stuff!

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Ashley's avatar Ashley @bookjunkie007.bsky.social
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I don’t remember if THE CITY WE BECAME by N. K. Jemisin also has the legal issue, but the second book, THE WORLD WE MAKE, has Brooklyn (both the character and the borough) dealing with a company trying to take her father’s brownstone by sketchy legal means, which is rooted in real-world fact.

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Chris McLaren's avatar Chris McLaren @chrismclaren.com
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People have mentioned the TNG Measure of A Man episode. Melinda Snodgrass, one of the writers of that episode, also wrote a trilogy of books about the role of a new circuit court in trying to establish law in turning-independent spacers/colonies. I remember it being really interesting.

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Nathan Lauster's avatar Nathan Lauster @lausterna.bsky.social
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I'm enjoying John Scalzi's Lock-In series now as a collection of sci-fi procedurals based in novel legal interpretations. Ann Leckie's Ancillary Justice trilogy (spoiler alert) brilliantly turns on a big treaty interpretation issue.

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Cat's avatar Cat @catgee.bsky.social
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A bunch of Iona Datt Dharma’s short fiction features legal plot points in fantasy settings (often with the law having a magical element)

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Lucretius Bourgeois's avatar Lucretius Bourgeois @maviscruet.bsky.social
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The Minority Report, I think. It's been a long time.

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If you want to go very old school, I recommend Njal's Saga (presented as history, but has many fantasy elements), which has a *gripping* courtroom drama as an important part of the story.

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Dungeon Facts's avatar Dungeon Facts @dungeonfacts.bsky.social
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Flex by Ferret Steinmetz (and it's sequels, Flux and Fix) are about a man whose obsession with bureaucracy becomes a magical superpower of being *really good at paperwork*

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rawkitbawl's avatar rawkitbawl @rawkitbawl.bsky.social
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There's always Star Trek TNG's The Measure of a Man (S02E09) where they have a trial to determine whether Data is the property of Starfleet.

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Mari Ness, writer of things's avatar Mari Ness, writer of things @mariness.bsky.social
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I just remembered: FREDDY AND THE BEAN HOME NEWS (1943), kids book about a talking pig, featuring a jury trial AND discussions about the intersection of the media and politics. (The author was not fond of U.S. politicians.)

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