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Adam Serwer

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People will point to something and say “see voting doesn’t do anything” and it’s literally just the consequences of Republicans winning elections

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unfrozen caveman legal observer's avatar unfrozen caveman legal observer @joshbunting.bsky.social
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Kye Fox's avatar Kye Fox @kyefox.com
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Trouble is there's often no one to vote for at most levels (uncontested) and steep barriers are in place to keep people from running without the support of a party that doesn't seem to care about most local races. The DSA showed how easy it is to beat the GOP at those levels if you try.

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RedwoodGirl (she/her) 💖💜💙's avatar RedwoodGirl (she/her) 💖💜💙 @redwoodgirl.bsky.social
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Well, except for Gov Newsom in California arranging to strangle yet another single-payer bill in a state legislative committe. We keep electing a Democratic supermajority and a Democratic governor, and they keep fucking us over. Yes, Republicans would be worse.

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Michael Maris's avatar Michael Maris @edrobot.bsky.social
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So what do you do if the state is gerrymandered out the wazoo?

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HIOM's avatar HIOM @hiom.bsky.social
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With the caveat that sometimes progressive candidates are liars. But yeah. Voting clearly works. Why would the GOP work so hard to disenfranchise voters if it wasn't a viable threat?

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Hipper Reed 🔞🍉's avatar Hipper Reed 🔞🍉 @hipperreed.bsky.social
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Totally agree. When your whole government is based on compromise it's hard to get anything done when an entire national party is hellbent on bringing absolute misery to the human race.

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🌏🐶🦕🥳 Vegetable Gremlin ⍼​👻🥦💥🏠♫'s avatar 🌏🐶🦕🥳 Vegetable Gremlin ⍼​👻🥦💥🏠♫ @vegetablegremlin.bsky.social
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huh seems like dems should try winning elections

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🌙🥀Ithewin🍂✨'s avatar 🌙🥀Ithewin🍂✨ @sladeofyaupon.bsky.social
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Often times the republicans won those elections because dems, especially at state/ local levels in red areas, do not run competitive campaigns on popular policies; and because red states are all extremely gerrymandered and POC face extreme voter suppression. don't individualize it.

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Mr. Glass's avatar Mr. Glass @mrglass.bsky.social
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I keep voting and they keep winning elections tho

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LynneofBayArea's avatar LynneofBayArea @lynneofbayarea.bsky.social
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VOTING IS YOUR SUPERPOWER PASS IT ON

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Malkintrash's avatar Malkintrash @malkintrash.bsky.social
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The massive transfer of funding and arms to Israel's military is a consequence of Republicans winning elections? The Democrat party holding fake primaries is a consequence of Republicans winning elections?? The continued student debt spiral is a consequence of Republicans winning elections???

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dxpack's avatar dxpack @dxpack.bsky.social
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Biden’s border policy? I know, I know, you were being facetious. No one’s actual entire argument has ever been “voting doesn’t do anything”.

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The Rt Hon Lady Kidman's avatar The Rt Hon Lady Kidman @nicolekidmansnose.bsky.social
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"there's no difference between the parties" the people saying this are usually wealthy/sheltered enough to be able not to give a fuck about actual policy and pursue moral purity instead.

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Sins of a Swoler Empire's avatar Sins of a Swoler Empire @mightycw.bsky.social
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even from a left perspective the math is simple: when Democrats are in charge they sometimes do bad things, when Republicans are in charge they only do bad things

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Truer words were never spoken

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Fountainhead this's avatar Fountainhead this @jaocomms.bsky.social
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Thank you

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Catherine the 🍓Redhead 's avatar Catherine the 🍓Redhead @rapieress.bsky.social
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Exactly. Or they point to liberal programs that don't work as intended without recognizing the GOP fought tirelessly to underfund and cobble them as much as possible.

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StevenErickson-Charles's avatar StevenErickson-Charles @stevenerick1976.bsky.social
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A vote for Trump is a vote for fascism. If you don’t vote it’s a vote for fascism. You can complain that the Dem programs aren’t enough but under fascism that will stop for you and me. Only the very wealthy will benefit. Complaining about the version of democrats will no longer be relevant.

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Nonfic-Jen's avatar Nonfic-Jen @jenyetagain.bsky.social
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Which candidate should I vote for to stop arming Israel in its genocide?

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Ryan Cavanaugh's avatar Ryan Cavanaugh @searyanc.dev
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We've reached peak "voting doesn't matter" discourse today:

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Test dot user's avatar Test dot user @lameguy76.bsky.social
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Part of my fear is that the left falls in the same trap as the right did about 10-15 years ago. So many I see say dems don't fight. They are walk overs. Imo that is how the right got trump. They ignored who he was because they wanted a "fighter".

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Grae Hall's avatar Grae Hall @graehall.bsky.social
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Easier to be cynical and ideologically pure than to be pragmatic and get your hands dirty to move things closer to the right direction even if it's not perfectly in the right direction Safer emotionally, also absolutely terrible for your community & country but great for fascists & fascism

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Perfectly said. I've been sharing the same sentiment for years, but this is how I'm going to phrase this from now on.

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skateintraffic's avatar skateintraffic @skateintraffic.bsky.social
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unfortunately I was a Fetterman voter in the general so

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Weird Mood's avatar Weird Mood @nthngy.bsky.social
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which side won't do the genocide?

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❀°。der Siebenschläfer  *.゚✿ ⋆'s avatar ❀°。der Siebenschläfer *.゚✿ ⋆ @sababausa.bsky.social
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Dems should just buy billboard ads displaying concise summaries of things Republicans do when they have power

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The chicken lady's avatar The chicken lady @chickenlady.bsky.social
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Exactly.

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zoobadger 's avatar zoobadger @zoobadger.bsky.social
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Bill Maher types whose opinions are nothing more than self-aggrandizing sophistry. And many others who are profiting, one way or another, from dividing the opponents of fascism.

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Ron Cox's avatar Ron Cox @monkyhead.bsky.social
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Like a third of the country has a 2nd grade understanding of government; Joe Biden could just Executive Order world peace and make recess two hours long, but he doesn’t, so voting doesn’t work!

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Stephen Nuñez's avatar Stephen Nuñez @socio-steve.bsky.social
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There is always going to be a right tail of the distribution of political stances in any leftwing party (and vice versa). The idea is to get enough legislators in there that you can still pass progressive policy changes because they are not the pivotal vote...

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This is exactly rights, regardless of people like the clown in this tread who is either a Trump fan or one of those leftist who would claim the Dems are just like the Reps but it's just 100% BS

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Denise Lee's avatar Denise Lee @dadavies.bsky.social
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Just checked & voter turnout in my county for May 21 election was 16% (down from primary turnout in 2022 of 25%). This was a primary BUT ALSO included special election for city council seats in 2 diff cities AND final election for judges, including GA Supreme Court judges. Apathy is deadly.

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Timlagor's avatar Timlagor @timlagor.bsky.social
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Sometimes it's the consequence of Democrats winning elections. Just because Republicans are so much worse doesn't mean Democrats aren't actively bad.

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glennrocks 💕🐈‍⬛🐈's avatar glennrocks 💕🐈‍⬛🐈 @glennrocks.bsky.social
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yes! isn't it terrible!

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The Woker's avatar The Woker @bone2meetu.bsky.social
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What party does the current president belong to? Which party did the president before Trump belong to

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NeoTiamat's avatar NeoTiamat @neotiamat99.bsky.social
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I am reminded that one of the rules of warfare is that the enemy gets a say.

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Peter Feld 🍉's avatar Peter Feld 🍉 @peterfeld.bsky.social
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I'm sorry Adam but I voted for a Dem who won, he funded a genocide, called me an antisemite and his press rep compared me (not by name) to Charlottesville marchers bc I protest for Palestine. He also embraced a MAGA border bill and refused to weaponize SCOTUS corruption. People can be demoralized.

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LaCroix Enthusiast 's avatar LaCroix Enthusiast @leftbanksy.bsky.social
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What do you say to people who say that but it’s after being unimpressed with what democrats do with their majorities?

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Sinboy's avatar Sinboy @sinboy.bsky.social
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Perennial Dril quote:

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Micah's avatar Micah @rincewind.run
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"the 6-3 supreme court did something bad" well it sure would have been preferable if Donald Trump didn't win in 2016, something that voting could absolutely have prevented

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Hipster Sasquatch's avatar Hipster Sasquatch @hipstersasquatch.bsky.social
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Unfortunately, politics is complicated.

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existentialangst.bsky.social's avatar existentialangst.bsky.social @existentialangst.bsky.social
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A lot of this nonsense too. Every whiney progressive wants THEIR perfect candidate.

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existentialangst.bsky.social's avatar existentialangst.bsky.social @existentialangst.bsky.social
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*General apathy; GOP wins and spends decades placing conservatives on courts* Dems: See? Voting doesn’t work. If Biden was for real hes go in and exec action everything. It’s so tedious and annoying.

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Tim Park's avatar Tim Park @timpark.bsky.social
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SERIOUSLY!!!! These are exactly the results of not voting in previous elections. And the stakes are even higher for this election.

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Canary in the Coal Mine's avatar Canary in the Coal Mine @vaelis.bsky.social
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Reading some of this just makes me mad all over again thinking about to 2015 and Clinton trying to get people to pay attention to the fact that there were up to 3 SC seats in play, and how important that was — and the absolute scorn and derision that was heaped on her by left and right.

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Amy Coney Barrett and Gorsuch happened because a Republican won an election? Roger Stone kicking Al Franken out of the Senate?

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Steve Zorowitz's avatar Steve Zorowitz @stevezorowitz.bsky.social
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And they vote in every election, from school board to judicial, to state, to federal, midterms and presidential. Win or lose, not getting what they wanted, no matter—they just kept coming back and voted. And that's how they got rid of RvW.

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Steve's avatar Steve @bigtimedumbguy.bsky.social
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How does “democrats who author and/or vote in favor of conservative laws” fit into this?

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