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Claire Willett@clairewillett.bsky.social |
“Turning Red” is one of the realest movies I’ve ever seen about the adolescent experience, wtf this is such a galling reminder that stories about fathers and sons get framed as “universal” but stories about mothers and daughters are “niche” and “not everyone can relate”
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Pad Rock
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The fact that they’re doing the same thing to Luca makes it even more bleak. It can only be about boys A CERTAIN WAY
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Silly B Man
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It’s a great coming of age story with a universal message AND ALSO its gutbustingly funny
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Mity Cheese
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I'm an old white guy and I thought Turning Red was one of the better Pixar films in quite a while. As someone else noted, what Disney really wants has nothing to do with the film itself, but tie-ins to toys they can sell, cf Star Wars.
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robeagle
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I loved turning red and I’m a White British Pansexual Cis-Guy! It was so well animated , the story was amazingly told!
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@ramsandhoosiers.bsky.social
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I see Pixar/Disney memory-holed “Onward”’s relatively poor performance/reception.
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Cait
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Turning Red was great. I thought Luca was lovely too--like Breaking Away, but Italian, animated, and nominally for kids. It felt miraculous that anyone made these movies, and I guess now people won't.
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James Brophy
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It's Sutch a great movie, if for no other reason than it's universally and spisificity to a time and place.
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crAsh
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Turning Red was excellent, and I did not have to match its nominal demographic in any way to love it
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Meg
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Hasn’t it been known that the MORE specific the story, the more people identify with it - I think the recent “One Day at a Time” was examined for that phenomenon?
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False Ranger
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I loved Turning Red, and I don't think I'm in a space to comment on the impacts of framing it with my gender weirdness and knowing I never had Mei's adolescence and how the panda thing aligns with female puberty and - just tell more stories like this so I don't have to put it all on one movie, kay?
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Flag Smasher Hrothgar - One World One People
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This is so fucking dumb. So shortsighted. That's why we need more women, queers, trans and non-white folx in charge of these studios and creative outlets. White men like me have been too comfortable for too fucking long doing the same shit over and over again.
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TBQ
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Turning Red so accurately nailed the experience of being a 13 year old girl that is my go to example for that age and the importance of own voices in storytelling. I'm neither Canadian nor Chinese but I could still relate. Not universal my ass.
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Flintheart Glomgold
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Shock! The exclusionary position is also hideously anti-art. "The studio's movies should be less a pursuit of any director's catharsis" I'm gonna stop you right there, that's exactly what movies should be, and if you can't find commonality in someone else's catharsis, I don't even want to know you
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tweety fish
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it's SO GOOD. plus the song is incredibly catchy
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Eva Knoet
@evaknoet.bsky.social
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Their reasoning makes no sense. Luca was the #1 streamed movie in 2021 & #9 in 2022. Turning Red was #2 in 2022. If that doesn't count as 'clear mass appeal' I don't now what does.
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@golvio.bsky.social
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I really do not like this reactionary trend of execs trying to lean back into the rigid gender segregation of the 1980s and 90s to try to recapture the Warm, Fuzzy Nostalgia they feel for that time while refusing to acknowledge how much it sucked for anyone who wasn’t a cishet white boy.
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Renita
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I was JUST talking to my husband the other night about how in good storytelling you can tell the story of one specific person and it should be relatable and I used Turning Red as an example so this is super frustrating
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Jules Effin Rivera
@lovejoolz.bsky.social
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Ironic considering how many men have garbage relationships with their dads, if any.
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Ivan Kowalenko
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Man, I'm a white dude and I totally got Turning Red. Parts of it are definitely targeted at specific audiences, but on balance it was totally universal to anyone who has been, or been around, a teenager. Also, AFAIK, it's the only animated Disney movie to say “crap.”
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Dan the Gnome
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Turning Red was AMAZING
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Sam Tarabiscoté*e 🏳️⚧️ (er/they)
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I cried in the cinema when I watched Brave because it hit so hard that the main character was not a male character. AND that it would have been Pixar's first movie by a female director, had they not fired her. I am so angry at Pixar for favouring male voices for so long.
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JeannetteBlue
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Sounds like boys’ treehouse rules strikes again. Patriarchy not at the center so need to take care of that.
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Millennial Maureen
@millennialmaureen.bsky.social
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Apparently some people’s brains shut off when encountering a protagonist of a different race or gender than they are.
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Zodda
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Hell, even if we assume men can only relate to male characters, Turning Red has an awesome dad in it
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Joe, of the valley of the same name
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It is SO good. We made a point earlier this year to travel to see it in the theater the weekend it was screening to support it
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DML WORLD
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I just read that someone in New York gets stabbed every 52 seconds. Poor guy.
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Jethands 🔞
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It's not just galling, but also _telling_ that about One Half of the human population's experiences are considered "niche" and "not universally relatable." And I hate it.
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LT
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And Luca was so boring by comparison.
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MikeyT00
@devilmikey.bsky.social
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Basically the people who run these companies have had some box office losses and instead of the myriad of reasons that is happening, they've latched onto the stupid made up "go woke, go broke" BS because they are all conservative rich A-holes who never wanted to make diverse stuff anyway.
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Nona Jabiznez
@nonajabiznez.bsky.social
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"The studio's movies should be less a pursuit of any director's catharsis..." THAT'S LITERALLY WHAT ART IS FOR.
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Andy Beaton
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It only speaks to people who have friends and/or families or who endured puberty. Hardly anyone outside that narrow niche, I guess.
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Al Petterson
@eyelessgame.bsky.social
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I daresay having a period is a more universal experience than dealing with divorced parents (cf Toy Story).
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Michika
@michika.bsky.social
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This sucks. Turning Red is a top three Pixar film for me.
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Colin Hoad
@colinhoad.bsky.social
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This is just incredibly sad. "Turning Red" was really good, and had heart. Most likely because the director was, y'know, doing the thing all great artists do: telling *their* story. That's the point!
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Bree Lundberg ✨
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They don't even advertise them, then wonder why nobody watches them!! Turning Red and Luca were two of my favorite Pixar films in recent years and I didn't even know about them until seeing friends online say how meaningful and real the stories and characters were.
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Sarah Gioia
@sarahgioia.bsky.social
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Right? My white 12 year boy old loved it. What are they even talking about.* *I actually do know what they're talking about and I don't like it.
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Hedwig
@hedinthecloud.bsky.social
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Such great music, too. Best Pixar in a *while*
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Ryan Humphrey
@ryanhumphrey.bsky.social
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See also a bunch of the reaction to Everything Everywhere All At Once
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Viola Smart
@smartvpants.bsky.social
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Announcing that Luca isn't universal at the beginning of Pride is quite a move.
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Kevin M. Kruse
@kevinmkruse.bsky.social
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My whole family loved it. The idea that it was some kind of unrelatable concept is ridiculous.
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Kelly Mangan (She/Her) 🏳️🌈 Author/Illustrator
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Ah, so they’re gonna just churn out the same tired old generic bullshit. Awesome. That’s not gonna be super boring or anything.
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Farren Croí-Spéir 🦊🇮🇪🍥🎮
@farrenskyheart.bsky.social
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Which is patently absurd and misogynistic I related well to the story as a cis guy. A mother with her best intentions putting on too much pressure to succeed? Very universal Awkwardness as puberty hits and confused romantic feelings for a person? Universal Family tradition challenged? Yup
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PostScript
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Turning Red is absolutely my favorite Pixar movie. It was so refreshing to see a movie where there wasn't some scenery chewing overtly evil villain, and the themes (and humor) were amazing.
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Erin Raeburn
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I watched Turning Red with my son (who was 22 at the time) and he enjoyed it as much as I did. It's gross that Disney assumes audiences only want carbon copies of their own stories or that there's nothing relatable about a 13yo Chinese Canadian girl. What a bleak, boring, low bar for storytelling.
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George Voinovich Manuscript
@bsakat.bsky.social
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God, how grim.
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Cathleen McAllister
@cafween.bsky.social
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this is so crazy to me because I loved UP as a kid even though there was no way I could have "universally related" to a miscarriage and eventually becoming a widower?? like what do they even mean lol
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Compare to the Active Ingredients in Woman®
@i-rohl.bsky.social
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"We need to make stories with mass appeal, instead of focusing on uncommon, difficult-to-relate-to, niche experiences like [checks notes] having a mom, or being thirteen years old."
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Erin Anderson
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They bombed epically with a Toy Story spin-off, so… they’re going to focus more on sequels and spin-offs. They’re gonna be the only ones surprised when nobody pays $30 a seat to watch Cars 4.
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Sarah
@whtabtpineapple.bsky.social
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But yet, the purity of "Motherhood" is preached to all women.
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lovesdaryl 🌹🇺🇦🇪🇺
@lovesdaryl.bsky.social
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I am getting so weary of this.
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Amanda Ross-White
@amandarosswhite.bsky.social
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As a 90s Trawno girl, this movie spoke to me in so many ways. Why doesn't my life get to be movie-worthy?
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Lazarus
@lazarusdj.bsky.social
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Both my twins (9) absolutely love it, their favourite Disney movie so far. Lost count how many times I've sat through it already
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JJ is tired
@jjofbc.bsky.social
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Turning Red is easily the best disney film I’ve seen in a decade.
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