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Jay Rosen

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It's been six years since Steve Bannon's advisory on how to neutralize journalists: "Flood the zone with shit." Learning what that means, how it works, is now basic to newsroom competence. Six years! Which is to say, things like this this should not be happening.

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Dreggas13 is on YouTube and Twitch's avatar Dreggas13 is on YouTube and Twitch @dreggas13.bsky.social
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The stenographers at the @nytimes.com are something else.

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Stephen C. Rea's avatar Stephen C. Rea @stevierea.bsky.social
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Should be required reading for any newsroom, like HR trainings are

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@LuLuRoche's avatar @LuLuRoche @luluroche.bsky.social
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Why is Bannon not in prison?

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man it's a hot zone,'s avatar man it's a hot zone, @mobute.bsky.social
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First draft of history, no second thoughts about anything.

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Staid Winnow's avatar Staid Winnow @staidwinnow.bsky.social
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“The mainstream media leans Republican. ‘Mainstream’ includes WSJ, USA Today, WaPo, NYT, FOX News, CNN, MSNBC, every Radio and satellite station…and if you tally it all, you’ll find that it’s heavily Republican.” I’ve been saying that for at least 8 years. I get to laugh at those who ridiculed me.

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Dunkin' Idahos's avatar Dunkin' Idahos @wendlle.bsky.social
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In hindsight, maybe we shouldn't have flooded newsrooms with petty nepo babies and minor failsons.

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2024 DREAD….Alison, still resisting 🌊's avatar 2024 DREAD….Alison, still resisting 🌊 @resistingalison.bsky.social
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The New York Times made me angry enough in 2016 that I decided to never subscribe to them. They just keep proving me right.

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Thomas Fuchs 🔭🕹️'s avatar Thomas Fuchs 🔭🕹️ @thomasfuchs.at
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The New York Times is a fucking right-wing newspaper, and they’re doing all of this on purpose. The sooner people realize this on move the fuck on from it, the better.

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Jo's avatar Jo @girljo.bsky.social
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… why would Biden want to divert from the better economy we now have under his administration?

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Marie aka maggie_twit 's avatar Marie aka maggie_twit @mep.bsky.social
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“No puppet. You’re the puppet” energy. What a small man.

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LaReyne's avatar LaReyne @lareyne.bsky.social
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Putler taught them that trick

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Comfortably Numb's avatar Comfortably Numb @numb.comfortab.ly
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New York Times is the definition of "zone flooded with shit"

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MarwanEichelsMD's avatar MarwanEichelsMD @monewsdaily.bsky.social
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Recall they just chase stats. As soc media drives the engagements up with complex fake traffic, trad media simply hips on the bandwagon for $. The test headlines constantly and tweak to move the winners ($) up. Focus anger on that system. Regulate it.

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Mike Doughney's avatar Mike Doughney @mikedoughney.bsky.social
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Hard to tell when you're getting flooded with shit, when your newsroom is already full of shit.

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John McQuaid's avatar John McQuaid @johnmcquaid.bsky.social
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OTOH you also had this, which shows some learning has occurred
www.nytimes.com/2024/01/06/u...

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Josh "Go Drink The Sea" Brown's avatar Josh "Go Drink The Sea" Brown @theotherspeakman.bsky.social
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It's equally absurd given that 1. Trump has encouraged attacks on journalists by his faithful and 2. They absolutely do have writers putting out necessary news and it's buried several pages in: bsky.app/profile/meli...

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Babbling Brooklyn's avatar Babbling Brooklyn @deftestleftist.bsky.social
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Himself*

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Victor Catano's avatar Victor Catano @vgcatano.bsky.social
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This is Trump yelling “I know you are but what am I?” And the NYT just transcribing it.

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Casaubon's avatar Casaubon @zas.bsky.social
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"Learning what that means, how it works, is now basic to newsroom competence." I half-disagree - I think that being susceptible to this strategy is *fundamental* to the access-based stenographic journalism that dominates nowadays. Only actual investigative journalism can be resistant towards it.

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Benjamin Ahr Harrison's avatar Benjamin Ahr Harrison @benjaminahr.bsky.social
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Long past time to do a wellness check on the gray lady.

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Ray Anselmo's avatar Ray Anselmo @rayanselmo.bsky.social
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"Basic to newsroom competence" has meant "anathema to the New York Times" for quite a while now.

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showmethenews's avatar showmethenews @p7037.bsky.social
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The is basically an evil framing of this. NYT is so often just a firehouse for flooding the zone with garbage. They do the bidding.

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Needleroozer's avatar Needleroozer @needleroozer.bsky.social
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New York Times is not on the side of democracy. It is not on the side of objective news reporting. It is on the side of sensationalism, because that's what sells newspapers. It's not much better than the New York Post.

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The chicken lady's avatar The chicken lady @chickenlady.bsky.social
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Number of journalists...
Is bad , too.

bsky.app/profile/claa...

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The chicken lady's avatar The chicken lady @chickenlady.bsky.social
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The peak:

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Linnea Hartsuyker (Author)'s avatar Linnea Hartsuyker (Author) @linneaharts.bsky.social
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After this long I'm forced to conclude that the strongest forces in mainstream journalism want and welcome the shit, don't care about being neutralized

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Life On Ferenginar's avatar Life On Ferenginar @livingonferenginar.bsky.social
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They thrive on shit there, like mushrooms or horseflies

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Man, I hate Illinois Nazis's avatar Man, I hate Illinois Nazis @someone-somewhere.bsky.social
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It's also a good economy! I mean the Times should report that Trump is a threat also, and make that the major point. But also!

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Biden has a twitter feed dedicated to bragging about the economy. It's not a bad issue for Biden but look at the New York Times go!

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Pictures of the Floating World's avatar Pictures of the Floating World @floatingworlds.bsky.social
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I'm disgusted by the gaslighting & propaganda maneuvers of the right.They act like 7 years old on a playground. I want adults in government office;people who do their job, who understand they serve the people that elected them, not the mega-corporations that paid for their campaign. No billionaires!

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Charles O’Connor's avatar Charles O’Connor @coconnor8.bsky.social
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I think we’re beyond “flood the zone” neutralization and into more active use of prestige media’s “balance” as leverage against democratic institutions Effort: RW messaging Load: institutions Pivot: NYT (NYT: Because we are not moved, we are doing our job well)

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Oliver Plaschka's avatar Oliver Plaschka @rainlights.net
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But isn't this, in a way, exactly the reversal we were hoping for? Biden finally calling a Nazi a Nazi, and the Nazi left babbling "he only wants to confuse you, let's talk about something boring instead"?

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Angie Stone 🌳's avatar Angie Stone 🌳 @angiestone.graysky.social
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@dietherast.bsky.social

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mxhrad's avatar mxhrad @mxhrad.bsky.social
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No. It isn’t incompetence. @nytimes.com is deliberately trying to get Trump elected. This goes through multiple reviews and editors. It’s all intentional.

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Locutus of Borg™'s avatar Locutus of Borg™ @wildpalmsltd.bsky.social
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They've learned nothing. What-aboutism and both-sideism are rampant. As is daily horse-race story. If anything has changed it's been in keeping with Bannon's prescription; DJT's most outlandish, violent, and dishonesty go unchallenged and indeed little remarked. www.vanityfair.com/news/donald-...

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Protective Hen's avatar Protective Hen @protectivehen.bsky.social
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Help us understand why it does. As a former journalist, I am floored. My experience was we had a huge wall from the business side but it feels like profit motive or power/access motive. It is pure corruption to avoid including basic context. The press should serve readers not the powerful.

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Jay Schiavone's avatar Jay Schiavone @jaytingle.bsky.social
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AG Sulzberger is the worst publisher of The New York Times my 63 years as a potential reader. Everything he knows about news dissemination, he’s learned from Republicans, beginning with “The Contract With America.” He’s as dangerous as Trump.

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DisImagineLovingly's avatar DisImagineLovingly @b9n10nt.bsky.social
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Besides the authority confided by both-sidesing, a lot of this is just engagement farming. They know their readers.

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TheSporkMaster 's avatar TheSporkMaster @thesporkmaster.bsky.social
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Biden doesn't need to talk about the economy. It's doing much better since trump left office.

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jody's avatar jody @jodyshenn.bsky.social
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I think I coined Clusterfuckery Theory in 2017 for why Trump won, yeah

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Alisha Grauso's avatar Alisha Grauso @alishagrauso.bsky.social
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It's the NYT. It's exactly what they want at this point. It prints papers.

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