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Popehat@kenwhite.bsky.social |
I don’t think it’s an exaggeration at all to say the decision threatens the Republic. I might not have said so in 2015, before I saw how triumphantly lawless and autocratic the President could be, and how so many people would applaud it or at least shrug.
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Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Reply Guy
@elandobbs.bsky.social
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The norms of democratic self governance were a real thing, if unenforceable at the margins. And we needed them. And now that they’re gone, we need to start over from scratch.
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@jame5on
@jame5on.bsky.social
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Is there a legislative fix or would it require an amendment?
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Baby Jane Hudson
@babyjanehudson.bsky.social
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Well someone's gotta start the, This is what I'd do as King for a Term: I declare a $10k/yr child care tax credit. It's not illegal if he reappropriates funds. Also, like, they're through with that building for the term. No reason to keep the doors locked.
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Ian Roche
@ianroche.bsky.social
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It's interesting that a country founded on a revolution that got rid of a king, just effectively created an elected king
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サージャントヒッピー
@sgthippie.bsky.social
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Wait until you hear about Andrew Jackson…
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Jackie Barbosa
@jackiebarbosa.bsky.social
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If anyone wants to understand why Mexico has such problems with corruption, it's LITERALLY because their Constitution actually PROHIBITS prosecuting presidents, sitting or retired. That has meant Mexican presidents can and thus generally do whatever they want, legal or not.
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@jnkc.bsky.social
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Frankly, it's a death sentence for any semblance of representative democracy in this country, activated upon the election of the next GOP president.
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Outside from over there
@simiclb.bsky.social
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Lucky for us someone just shit the bed during the debate.
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pophouse
@pophouse.bsky.social
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there are so many things that trump was famously restrained from doing in his first term and this has to be seen as approval of all those
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Erin, a bee 🐝 🏳️⚧️ (no DMs era)
@erinlisagayle.bsky.social
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A thought in a post I made earlier:
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eps
@eatprayshitpost.bsky.social
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it's almost accelerationist in a way
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Christopher D. Brown Ph.D.
@cdbrow1.bsky.social
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Vote for the guy who does not need immunity.
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Alex Merz
@merz.bsky.social
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Jean Bodin's definition of a republic, which is pretty encompassing, *specifically* excludes tyrannies.
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Darryl Adams
@voradams.bsky.social
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The biggest issue to my mind if that the whole system has broken down. Congress is dysfunctional, the USSC is ignoring centuries of precedents in a partisan power grab and now the Executive has no checks and balances. No one is answerable to the people due to gerrymandering and voter suppression
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Mitchell Epner
@mitchellepner.bsky.social
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Also [twisting the knife] that "institutionalists" like AG William Barr would sell out all previously held commitments to the rule of law in order to bask in the glow of office under Donald Trump.
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Erinn O'Dear
@erinnthered.bsky.social
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They want a Constitutional Convention. They think this will get it for them. They might be right if the cureent potus doesn't step up.
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@lukewarm.bsky.social
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Trump revealed that so much of Presidenting is based on norms and not law, and the SC is just ... solidifying that? Pretending there won't be another norms-breaker elected?
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Neil Stenhouse
@nstenhouse.bsky.social
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The effects on behavior of people other than Trump could be pretty dangerous too bsky.app/profile/nste...
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Your Pal in Ypsi
@ypsidoodle.bsky.social
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Ken, this decision is effective at this moment, right? Doesn't that mean that Biden could order a DOJ investigation of the court on whatever basis he wants? It would be a shame if they uncovered, say, bribes.
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John Castiglione
@johncastiglione.bsky.social
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It’s like a solvent - if left alone it will seep into every nook and cranny of government and society and dissolve the bonds of what held it together as a democracy
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Hal 10000
@hal10000.bsky.social
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I'm trying not to be alarmist but it feels that way. Roberts did everything but give him prima nocta. Of course, that might be in the next abortion decision.
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Warhammerchick
@celticdragon1.bsky.social
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Balls and strikes Unfortunately the game is "Let's Start a Civil War"
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Warhammerchick
@celticdragon1.bsky.social
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Yes, I believe this one is one hell of a push to pogroms, gunfire and worse.
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proportionwheel
@proportionwheel.bsky.social
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I don’t think it merely “threatens” the republic. I think it marks the republic’s end. I hope I’m wrong, but short of finding the will to pack the court or Biden taking them up on some of the extreme powers they grant to presidents, I’m having trouble coming up with a more optimistic gloss on it.
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Kosturdistan
@smurfburger.bsky.social
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Quick question: is there any other democracy that lets its executive do crimes with impunity?
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Julie Novkov
@jnovkov.bsky.social
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It turns out that norms are not the same as legal guardrails and accountable, responsible institutions!
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Andrew Parker
@andrewparker.bsky.social
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I find myself darkly comforted by the fact that Trump *was* as lawless and autocratic as he was even when there was a threat of being prosecuted. It tells me that whatever else was holding this shit in check, “Trump’s fears of being prosecuted” were not the linchpin.
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David Puelle
@dpuelle.bsky.social
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Conservatives debase everything. Their youth pastors and money grubbers debase religion. Their self-serving politicians debase public service and their originalitist autocrat fluffers have debased the constitution. Yes, the Republic is at risk.
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Adrian
@lorenzana.engineer
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Damn it I was really hoping it wasn’t as bad as I (not a lawyer) thought :/
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@awfullyvague.bsky.social
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I come to you when I want a snarky, but not hysterically over-reacting, take on political matters. The fact that this could count as a "not hysterically over-reacting" take fills me with dread.
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Al G Rhythm
@algrhythm.bsky.social
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Al G Rhythm
@algrhythm.bsky.social
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This ruling sounds much more reasonable in the original German.
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yazikus
@yazikus.bsky.social
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It's just so grim, man.
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ə Schwa
@schwa.bsky.social
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I'm scared. Like... actually scared. Not a rhetorical, hyperbolic statement meant for effect. For realsies, actual irl scared.
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I Dissent Cha Cha
@rachacha.bsky.social
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Well said, Dissent Hat.
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Kevin J. Miller
@kjmiller.bsky.social
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I had recently posted somewhere, well, we'll never get anything like the Reichstag Fire Act. However, this immunity ruling might be it.
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Travelling Will
@airelbonia.bsky.social
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I suppose that means we may never see the true impact of Chevron deference ending.
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Gorgon Zola
@bobbryan2.bsky.social
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I don't even have smarminess. I'm... hollow. This will end badly, and on a very long time scale. At best.
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Muhaha 🇺🇦🇪🇺
@miawau.bsky.social
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Go out and vote and everyone who doesn’t vote for Biden, because he is old. They should go to Russia to get a prequel of a dictatorship
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Ben Munson
@archaica.bsky.social
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the worst part is just how blatantly it's intended to free Republicans and constrain the Democrats. Modern jurisprudence is crafted with the expectation of conservative capture of the courts, and if things like "official acts" are left up to the courts ....
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Ben Munson
@archaica.bsky.social
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Waiting for a horse to be appointed to the Senate
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Josh Sternberg
@joshsternberg.bsky.social
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And for the sequel, Miller et al know exactly what to do. That’s one of the scary parts: the incompetence of the first term will give way to people who now can pull the levers they want, aided and abetted by SCOTUS.
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