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Shiv Ramdas

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every time I see someone complain about unions I think about how unions were the consensus alternative to the previous system of burning the factory owner alive inside his house

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Archer in Exile's avatar Archer in Exile @400trix.bsky.social
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Clearly unions were a bad idea, then.

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Silly B Man's avatar Silly B Man @lawnerd.bsky.social
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Guillotines are bad but fear of guillotines among elites is healthy and good.

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Dallas Swoager's avatar Dallas Swoager @untenablewhale.bsky.social
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Sigh. Ok, if we have to.

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Jessica Sietsema's avatar Jessica Sietsema @jmstsm.bsky.social
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To be fair, back then they didn't have a panopticon box in every person's pocket/purse.

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Michael Maris's avatar Michael Maris @edrobot.bsky.social
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How many times did that actually happen?

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D. Paul Angel 's avatar D. Paul Angel @dpaulangel.com
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They really juat don't teach labor history here at all. Nothing about armed standoff between Union members and armed "security," nothing about the beatings, and certainly nothing that might give anyone ideas on how to deal with rich assholes who think they're above consequences. 🤷‍♂️

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??'s avatar ?? @jojosbizarrelife.bsky.social
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My wife works at a hospital and let me tell you... her union rep seems blissfully unaware that the history of his position in those negotiations consists of, "Listen up fuckstick. You negotiate in good faith or you'll be happy you're already in a hospital."

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Deerlady83's avatar Deerlady83 @deerlady83.bsky.social
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Or having mini civil wars.

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Stephen Cox Author only more so's avatar Stephen Cox Author only more so @stephencoxauthor.bsky.social
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Yes. Also, can we understand that some taxes are GAT Guillotine Avoidance Tax

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marythetrainer🦋🐢🤷🏻‍♀️😏🌎's avatar marythetrainer🦋🐢🤷🏻‍♀️😏🌎 @marythetrainer.bsky.social
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The Homestead Strike happened just 3 years after the Johnstown Flood, and it targeted the companies of owners involved in the flood. After the flood, none of the wealthy industrialists were held accountable. The two events may not have been explicitly linked, but people remember injustice.

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Arcturus SaDiablo's avatar Arcturus SaDiablo @asadiablo.bsky.social
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Given how some current day "factory owners" are behaving, bringing back that practice is very tantalizing.

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Bad Carl Rodgers 's avatar Bad Carl Rodgers @xcarlxrogersx.bsky.social
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Hey cmon now, unions aren't necessary anymore, after all, my boss thinks I have a cool truck

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TeeJay Ach's avatar TeeJay Ach @pragmaticleftist.bsky.social
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Shomer Shabbat R211's avatar Shomer Shabbat R211 @reallyliketrains.bsky.social
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The NLRA contained labor conflict and now people are prying open the big "labor conflict" box with crowbars

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Liz 🧡 🇺🇦🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🇵🇸's avatar Liz 🧡 🇺🇦🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🇵🇸 @circaliz.bsky.social
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🍽

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Tony from Welly's avatar Tony from Welly @tonywelly.bsky.social
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Who is the factory owner of Tesla? Elon?

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Sadly the tyranny of fascistic oppression is usually endured for decades or more before the guillotine comes down! Can we skip that part and go straight to the beheading now pls😂🙏😡

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Ƭყթօ's avatar Ƭყթօ @typocelchu.bsky.social
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Slowly morphing into Ron Perlman during the writer’s strike

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Mors Admendacium - Not Mordechai's avatar Mors Admendacium - Not Mordechai @followevidence.bsky.social
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Shiv, the French had an alternative

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Tucker Drake's avatar Tucker Drake @tuckerdrake.bsky.social
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Colin McMillen's avatar Colin McMillen @mcmillen.dev
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I think an unfortunate development in modern times is that the factory owner is much more likely to live halfway across the world, and have multiple homes with significant internal security presence and militarized police on call.

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artisanrox's avatar artisanrox @artisanrox.bsky.social
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In conservative areas looooots of people (even older people) absolutely do not know that locking people inside a burning factory was absolutely a real thing and that's what prompted unionization as self-defense measure.

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Becca's Mullet's avatar Becca's Mullet @beccasmullet.bsky.social
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Sadly, I think the heavily armed (with automatic weapons) rich people who get to act with impunity ( see Trump, Donald) are a tremendous deterrent. I know facing down hired goons with AR-15s is deterrent for me.

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Joyce Reynolds-Ward's avatar Joyce Reynolds-Ward @joycereynoldsward.bsky.social
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Former union organizer here. Yep.

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Cadbury Crème Negs's avatar Cadbury Crème Negs @itshard.bsky.social
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“Instead of striking, why don’t they compromise?” Striking is the compromise. Too many people have forgotten how it used to work.

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Il gatto infuriato's avatar Il gatto infuriato @ptorelli.bsky.social
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The factory owner doesn't patrol the factory on foot anymore. Private Equity owns the factories, and investors own the Private Equity. Good luck finding the owner. It's like the film CUBE...

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Craig Walmsley's avatar Craig Walmsley @craigwalmsley.bsky.social
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Yeah, well, let’s get the pitchforks and burning torches out.

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JonS253's avatar JonS253 @jons253.bsky.social
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Maybe it's time to revive old traditions.

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Evo Daily's avatar Evo Daily @evodaily.bsky.social
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In the last 100+ years so many battles for better and safer working conditions have been won. The wealthy elite have been union busting ever since.
www.history.com/topics/early...

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AndyK250.gb's avatar AndyK250.gb @andyk250.bsky.social
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RETVRN

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Chris Curtis's avatar Chris Curtis @curtosis.bsky.social
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Usurious wealth tax rates are, historically-speaking, the *best* case end for the gilded class.

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Ah the good old days

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Kip Williams sort of 's avatar Kip Williams sort of @kipwilliams.bsky.social
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Somebody tell these rich guys to go out and touch Titanic.

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Dave Karpf's avatar Dave Karpf @davekarpf.bsky.social
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RETVRN.

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Dead Weirdo Studios's avatar Dead Weirdo Studios @deadweirdostudios.bsky.social
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Make Americans drag mine owners out of their houses at the end of a shotgun again.

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Lamentably Awake's avatar Lamentably Awake @lamentablyawake.bsky.social
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Across the developed world the political consensus is removing each and every pressure valve and assuming the pressure will continue to dissipate as usual.

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GreenEngineer's avatar GreenEngineer @greenengineer.bsky.social
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Gom Jabbarbarienne's avatar Gom Jabbarbarienne @thebarbarienne.bsky.social
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I'm very pro-union, but in some specific, select cases, a return to the Old Ways might be more useful.

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Myrna's avatar Myrna @bigbunnymomma.bsky.social
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Took me a bit but I’m 💯 pro-union. Being let go from two jobs with no solid reason (other than bosses didn’t like me) will do that to you.

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Ken Burnside's avatar Ken Burnside @kenburnside.bsky.social
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Maybe the conservatives are on to something and we should burn about 30 billionaires on their yachts out in international waters, while shooting down anyone who tries to rescue them. Since they died in international waters, their probate gets more complex...

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David Waldman's avatar David Waldman @kagrox.bsky.social
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The marginal tax rate at the end of a pitchfork is 100%.™️

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'Swas's avatar 'Swas @sbeen.bsky.social
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It was a real close vote, too!

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McNutcase's avatar McNutcase @mcnutcase.bsky.social
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And even then, I'm thinking about old British songs that are basically "join the union or we'll straight murder your scab ass"...

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Beth's avatar Beth @thisbethlife.bsky.social
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99% of the tv I consume takes place between 1700 and 1950 and yeah, I feel as though I’m watching a working class uprising build, the way a tsunami does.

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Like bringing in cops or National Guard to forcefully disperse protests. The historical alternative to protests isn't "no protests".

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Rev. Poppy Haze (ITAR compliant)'s avatar Rev. Poppy Haze (ITAR compliant) @poppyhaze.bsky.social
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a common form of protest in colonial America was to get so riled up, you go to the local governor’s house and rip it down. In one case, they literally threw his house in a river so he couldn’t just put it back up

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Brendan O'Toole's avatar Brendan O'Toole @brendanotoole.bsky.social
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Right, this is the labor equivalent of poisonings went down by more than half after no-fault divorce became the law

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Steve Zorowitz's avatar Steve Zorowitz @stevezorowitz.bsky.social
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The super-rich are convinced they can pay half the poor to fight off the other half if necessary. I’m not sure they’re wrong.

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Kagami's Mirror 🏳️‍⚧️ 🇪🇺's avatar Kagami's Mirror 🏳️‍⚧️ 🇪🇺 @redkagami.bsky.social
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The second alternative needs to be reconsidered

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ASMEH's avatar ASMEH @asmeh.bsky.social
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This actually sounds like a complaint about unions!

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