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Osita Nwanevu

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Is anyone going to do anything? Ever? What's it going to take? You can't put out a song with an uncleared sample without putting yourself in legal jeopardy; meanwhile these people are openly stealing all of human creation and bragging about it! www.nytimes.com/2024/04/06/t...

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Convolver's avatar Convolver @convolver.bsky.social
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Man, imagine being in-house counsel for freaking Facebook and still thinking raising ethical concerns is going to get you anywhere with your employer.

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Wendell B's avatar Wendell B @wndlb.bsky.social
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At the beginning of hip-hop, it was the same Wild West, until a few federal Judges were VERY unimpressed with the samplers’ arguments.

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Kevin's avatar Kevin @thervterrorists.bsky.social
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I say let's get Taylor Swift on this. She'll straighten out those bitches.

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NutMeg 's avatar NutMeg @casuallychaotic.bsky.social
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"One lawyer warned of “ethical” concerns around taking intellectual property from artists but was met with silence, according to the recordings." That says everything you need to know about the people involved.

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Policy_g's avatar Policy_g @policyg.bsky.social
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I wonder if you purchase a university if you would get the rights to all the papers written by the students. Seems like a good way to get a lot of content.

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Azure Raphael's avatar Azure Raphael @trai70.bsky.social
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These people don't care about consequences because they've never faced any. I keep thinking about the moment in The Social Network where Zuck had to pay off the Winks, and it was framed as "a speeding ticket."

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Jay K's avatar Jay K @jaykellett.bsky.social
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Fix copyright law. It is the only way out of this mess.

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Dan K's avatar Dan K @zdp189.bsky.social
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Couldn't someone make an AI law-bot to identify likely plagiarised works and issue DMCA takedown notices?

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Phil's avatar Phil @keeptheskyblue.bsky.social
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Governments have let the tech companies become far too big and abusive, and now we are all paying the price. 👎🏻

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Peter Jeffe's avatar Peter Jeffe @pjeffe.bsky.social
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Yes, we need the Ice Ice Baby lawsuit for AI. And it has to come with big penalties. These folks have already priced in the expected penalties, so it really has to hurt.

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Processing News and Politics's avatar Processing News and Politics @mikeweaver.bsky.social
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LOL. You're not even responding in good faith to people on this thread and bsky in general. Why would they take your desperate cries for help seriously?

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Seen 🏳️‍🌈's avatar Seen 🏳️‍🌈 @seen4.bsky.social
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It’s horrific and at the end of it they’ll put a product that has some novelty, used as a threat for removing people from jobs, and then the industry will grow stale and bust within a year or so and nothing of true value was gained

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Fibonacci Sequins's avatar Fibonacci Sequins @brentwaggoner.bsky.social
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I know there are lawsuits in process but it's so hard to believe that something Microsoft, Amazon, Meta, and Google are all going to fight has any chance of actually happen. They already operate more like countries than business.

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Mya Avery's avatar Mya Avery @myaavery.bsky.social
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"Let's just buy one of the biggest publishers out there.", being a legitimate idea they had to fuel their non-functional ai is just one of those things you read and it's like this company should not be allowed to exist

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Greg ”Shalashaska” Kinnear 🏳️‍🌈's avatar Greg ”Shalashaska” Kinnear 🏳️‍🌈 @tedcruzinusa.bsky.social
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If you make more money doing the bad thing than you would doing a good thing, there’s no incentive to do the good thing under capitalism.

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Dell Cameron's avatar Dell Cameron @dell.bsky.social
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Not in this country.

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Andrew's avatar Andrew @andrewgowen.bsky.social
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#Copyright owners should do what software companies constantly do and change their usage terms of service to say that each and every access of their copyright material by #AI counts as a purchase requiring payment of a fee. Put this on the #Web site and it becomes part of the #licensing agreement.

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FREYA COMICS's avatar FREYA COMICS @jenpallante.bsky.social
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Ironically when I submit songs for distribution an AI checks them for commercial samples I purchased (loops or DJs, drum samples, small vocal clips from commercial sample packs) and I have to show proof of payment and the terms of the license. For a 2 second "Hey yeah!" i use on a dance track.

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Rev. Jesus “H" Christ, KSC's avatar Rev. Jesus “H" Christ, KSC @reverendjesus.com
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My stream of PUBLIC DOMAIN FILMS can't go live on YouTube — even with realtime commentary — for more that ten or fifteen minutes before it gets tanked and I get a goddamned copyright strike.

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Tim Chuma's avatar Tim Chuma @timchuma.bsky.social
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100Gb in a single month scraped from my website from 1 AI harvester bot. Bunker busters on AWS is what is needed

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Steve Biegun's avatar Steve Biegun @sbiegun.bsky.social
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All the people who *could* pass legislation about this are geriatric politicians who have a hard enough time understanding computers.

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PI's avatar PI @povertyinfinite.bsky.social
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I like that no one on online can conceive of making something original any more. Reminds me that I actually like art, writing, and music.

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Cmdr. Hange's avatar Cmdr. Hange @unsoundmethods.bsky.social
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Time to resurrect "robber barons"

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Yordan Yonchev 🏳️‍🌈's avatar Yordan Yonchev 🏳️‍🌈 @yordanyonchev.bsky.social
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Pyrito Hedron's avatar Pyrito Hedron @pyritohedron.bsky.social
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Hey where have we seen this before? Uber is currently trading at over $75 per share.

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El Topo's avatar El Topo @eltopo71.bsky.social
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I love how indiscriminately stealing all the content available in the world has now been abbreviated to "cutting corners". Not too long ago the recording industry was suing individuals for hundreds of thousands of dollars for sharing one or two songs on P2P...

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Trapped in a Suburban Hellhole's avatar Trapped in a Suburban Hellhole @carljanderson.bsky.social
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Lars Ulrich was out there yelling that everyone who downloaded "One" was a criminal. Yet no one of similar stature is out there yelling about Generative AI. Sure, maybe those plaintiffs in the lawsuits not talk, but everyone else.

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New and improved jedgeco's avatar New and improved jedgeco @jedgeco.bsky.social
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“Is anyone going to do anything”? You mean, like, this?

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Blue Meme's avatar Blue Meme @bluememe.bsky.social
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I’m so old I remember when big companies wanted to prosecute ordinary people for copyright infringement.

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Aaron Huertas's avatar Aaron Huertas @aaronhuertas.bsky.social
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Even from a pure greed level, I'd expect a ton of lawsuits among publishers and tech companies or at least enough credible threats of them the companies bake it into the cost of doing business.

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Aaron Bourque's avatar Aaron Bourque @afbourque.bsky.social
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"How Tech Giant Cut Corners To Harvest Data For A.I." In other words, steal. How tech giants steal data for a.i.

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CornPop 's avatar CornPop @usmc.bsky.social
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Just what we need large Government to solve this issue…no thanks

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jace cavacini's avatar jace cavacini @dysamoria.com
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Theft and cheating as a market tactic. It’s just going to be codified now?

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Blimple 's avatar Blimple @blimple.bsky.social
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AI breaks IP, which Hollywood and to some degree America is built on but wtf it’s broken now. Hedge fund’s sell off the seeds along along with the crops model is like if suicide paid out to investors. Fuck this I’m gonna escape into this Tokyo Vice show…oh…aw no

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David Croyle's avatar David Croyle @croyle.bsky.social
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I really hope that some high-up judge somewhere is going to order these AIs to be shut down because of the illegal, massively abusive way in which they were constructed. But I'm not going to hold my breath for that to happen. If it does, I swear I'll break out a bottle of champagne.

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David Forum's avatar David Forum @zlinger.bsky.social
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i get you completely and i also feel compelled to wonder aloud, “when was the last time Anyone Did Anything about *gestures expansively*?”

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Richard Gadsden's avatar Richard Gadsden @po8crg.gadsden.online
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The amazing thing is that not one of the people in that room said "OpenAI are breaching copyrights. Why don't we fund a lawsuit against them?"

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Mike the Mad Biologist's avatar Mike the Mad Biologist @mikethemadbiol.bsky.social
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📌

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Maya Media's avatar Maya Media @mayamedia.bsky.social
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I volunteer at a place where musicians come & jam. Sometimes we post the videos. No one knows who wrote “House of the Rising Sun”, but they did so in the 19th Century. No copyright. But every time we post a performance, YouTube gives us a copyright violation ding.

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Kordo's avatar Kordo @kordo.bsky.social
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"Market Precedent" 😬 Coming to a Supreme Court ruling near you! Stay Tuned !

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JZS's avatar JZS @jzsamm.bsky.social
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It is (among all the other crimes) conspiracy to commit crimes on a national scale. It will be tough for the DOJ not to launch an investigation now. Impressed that an employee had the guts to leak it. This goes on in big corporations everywhere but at that level employees are usually indoctrinated.

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Travis Dawry's avatar Travis Dawry @tdawry.bsky.social
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Microsoft spent enormous resources shaping global copyright law over the last few decades, only to turn and immediately become the largest infringer on the planet via GitHub. Now they're doing the same with the rest of the Internet.

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Marsh Ray's avatar Marsh Ray @marshray.bsky.social
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Dude, you just stole the New York Times

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benstylus 🐧's avatar benstylus 🐧 @benstylus.bsky.social
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Unfortunately, the time to fix the problem is long past. The technology exists and even if all US tech giants decided it was both unethical AND that they weren't going to proceed any further down that path, many other countries/companies would kill for the chance to be the world leader in AI.

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Temple Drake's avatar Temple Drake @templedrake.bsky.social
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Our octogenarian leaders can't regulate what they don't understand. They think these assholes are geniuses.

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Brien000's avatar Brien000 @brien000.bsky.social
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I will.

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onekade's avatar onekade @onekade.bsky.social
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The NYT is trying and good for them for doing it. Same with the creative unions. But the government is asleep.

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SwampLizard's avatar SwampLizard @swamplizard.bsky.social
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Oh, it's "market precedent," that sounds like a legalish term I'm sure this is legit

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Howdini's avatar Howdini @howdini.bsky.social
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I can't even post my own fucking music on IG without it getting taken down for copyright violation. Motherfucker I OWN that copyright!

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jw's avatar jw @farwent.net
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We can't risk making them mad, they might start putting out terrible products

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⚧️Alice Grimaude🐇's avatar ⚧️Alice Grimaude🐇 @alicegrimaude.bsky.social
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All for a "Body Snatchers" scenario that destroys every industry by replacing it with imposters and removing life from their equations. In the end all would be dead and meaningless.

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Don't Eat That's avatar Don't Eat That @inediblepouch.bsky.social
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The someone should do something to oh shit I'm that someone? pipeline

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jody's avatar jody @jodyshenn.bsky.social
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Ok I hear you on the sampling thing but @hausofdecline.bsky.social said cannot stop and it’s not for money, so i hope ok

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Osita Nwanevu's avatar Osita Nwanevu @ositanwanevu.bsky.social
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For months, we've had all the powers of govt fixed on the notion that TikTok will hypnotize tweens and your mom into being Chinese intelligence assets; meanwhile, all the major tech firms are throwing the entirety of US copyright law in the toilet to build the best Cheating & Misinformation Machine

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doodlemancy 🏳️‍🌈's avatar doodlemancy 🏳️‍🌈 @doodlemancy.com
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yeah like... youtubers doing legitimate critique/educational stuff have to fight like hell to get brief movie clips through the copyright checks. streaming apps won't even let you take screenshots anymore. but no pushback on the Infinite Mush Generator

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Lizardguy64's avatar Lizardguy64 @lizardguy64.bsky.social
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Find the database and we can start demolishing anytime.

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Kris Wernowsky's avatar Kris Wernowsky @kriswernowsky.com
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The short answer is “no.” The long answer is the same as the short answer.

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