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Seth Cotlar@sethcotlar.bsky.social |
Would you support deporting all undocumented immigrants? Yes 62% No 38% 6/7 YouGov/CBS poll Morality aside, this would mean deporting ~50% of the agricultural workforce and ~3% of the total workforce. Unemployment is currently 4%. Maybe time for some Democratic counter messaging on immigration?
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Matt Ferrel 🍦
@mattferrel.bsky.social
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How about amnesty for virtually all and a straightforward path to citizenship? Followed by a large increase in legal immigration so we can stop arguing about this? Oh, I’m hearing racism…
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@msea1.bsky.social
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Millennials really ought to know better smdh
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Jason Parton
@jasongrvin.bsky.social
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The same people that say yes to this stuff are the same people that want Texas to leave the union. They're for it as long as they don't understand it.
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Joe Biden's Evaporating Campaign Funds
@4thwallguide.bsky.social
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Very interesting that there is no demographic info other than gender...
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@manfredwoman.bsky.social
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This is just one of the reasons why it's so important for conservatives to destroy DEI initiatives and SEL programs in schools. People can't be tricked into supporting bigoted policies if they understand racism and have empathy. I hate it here
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pophouse
@pophouse.bsky.social
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Ok but wouldn’t all those workplace shortages be solved by getting rid of income tax and getting all government revenue from tariffs?
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Kermit D
@krmtdfrog.bsky.social
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Current Democratic leadership messaging on immigration is to do what Trump did regarding amnesty, try and close the border and in general, foster this attitude. Maybe it isn't Dem messaging, but Dem actions? Yes, the let all married undocumented get nationalized is a nice start
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Andi
@andil.bsky.social
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Absolutely not
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CB
@cborshuk.bsky.social
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Those dumb oldsters, who they think is gonna pay into our social security?
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Kim
@kimoco.bsky.social
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Anti-immigration language and views are growing again it seems, and just in time for more and more climate refugees we shall see in the coming decades, not to mention those fleeing wars, violence and poverty.
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Barney McGillicuddy
@brigonos.bsky.social
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A counter narrative will be difficult, as anti-immigration rhetoric is too useful to the British press, who use it to avoid platforming green and left-wing talking points. Just look at how they eliminated discussion of Greece, TTIP, refugees, taxing billionaires etc from the Brexit referendum.
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Beejieweejie she/her
@beejieweejie.bsky.social
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Or at the very least, a different set of questions / framing for questions. This conversation was informative & 💡for me:
podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/g...
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Oragami Apprentice
@bschaefer.bsky.social
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It’s hard to combat this when you have this cbs article from 2019 up against wall to wall coverage from Fox News every day saying immigrants are evil.
www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/ill...
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@zendarva.bsky.social
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Sock Puppet Pundit
@sockpuppetpundit.bsky.social
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I notice that they want to deport workers but no one talks about the companies that employ undocumented workers. It’s like punishing drug users while ignoring drug dealers. That said, plenty of ag workers come on legal visas for seasonal work. Are they going to stop big ag from hiring legal workers?
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nonsense perpetrator
@oranmath.bsky.social
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Oh no, Democrats can’t do counter-messaging, it might actually be effective
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Connor Lynch
@connorlynch.bsky.social
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We desperately need these workers and we should pay them more and treat them better.
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Marty E.
@martye.bsky.social
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Jason Apple
@japple323.bsky.social
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Maybe they *want* produce to cost $80/lbs?
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Ely Rabani #GazaCeasefireNow
@radsci.bsky.social
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…a little bit like Brexit….
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@hrlatinam.bsky.social
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It is infuriating how many undocumented immigrants kept this country going during the pandemic, often at great personal risk to themselvrs, and now people want to kick them out.
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blackmask/nyc
@blkmsk.bsky.social
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Gonna be weird when people find out the nice man who ran the fabric store for the past 15 years had to go back to Turkmenistan and get murdered.
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Bob’s Your Uncle
@bobsyouruncle.bsky.social
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How about we ask them if the people who hired undocumented migrants should be jailed instead?
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Ken Yee
@yuweiquan.bsky.social
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But this is trying to counter feelings with facts. And in an election year???
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Pro-Democracy
@pro-democracy.bsky.social
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Who was polled? I cannot fathom this many people so ignorant about the consequences.
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Paula
@dentonitis.bsky.social
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I'm not even sure what the Democratic messaging is on anything. Whatever it is hasn't broken through all the other noise.
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Carly Goodman
@carlygoodman.bsky.social
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Most polls show majority support for a path to citizenship. It’s not good that mass deportation is something that sounds so normal that this many people say ok, but I’m not sure what this poll result actually tells us.
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Are You Being Detained
@sailbarque.bsky.social
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Would you support dep/all undocumented immigrants if it meant food shortages of meat and produce at your local supermarket? Would you support dep/all undocumented immigrants if it increased unemployment for people in the building trades?
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John W Buaas
@johnwbuaas.bsky.social
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Remembering the account of a civil trial in Phoenix from a few years back in which a man was suing a roofing contractor for using undocumented immigrant labor. People just laughed at the guy for believing contractors could find all-legal work crews to do that kind of work in Phoenix.
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Tao Jonesing
@taojonesing.bsky.social
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It’s not like anyone knows where all the undocumented workers are, which is why every Latino, citizen or not, will be targeted.
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Justin Noormand
@justin-noormand.bsky.social
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The age tabs are a little less depressing but it’s still a bummer that even 39% of under 30’s would support it. In any case, this is the kind of shit Brexit was built on and it has been a huge disaster. It’s self-immolation.
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Wendell Albright
@wendella.bsky.social
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I suspect that 62 number would erode if explanations, conditions, and follow-ups were added.
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Cindy Lou Whomst🇺🇦
@silkscreenfiend.bsky.social
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These people by and large have no fucking clue what an undocumented immigrant actually is, and zero understanding of how anything works. What can you do about shit like this?
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DaemonAAc / Bunny
@daemonaac.bsky.social
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What the actual hell is WRONG with people?! (I know what's wrong with them. but still.)
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Demmy
@tehdeminz.bsky.social
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What would the counter-messaging be, exactly? Family separation and mass deportation have continued relatively uninterrupted. Democratic and Republican policy have largely been the same on immigration, even if the rhetoric is lighter.
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Chris John Colby Garcia
@chrisjcgarcia.bsky.social
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Of all marginalized groups, undocumented immigrants have the fewest defenders.
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Jon Pennington
@jonpennington.bsky.social
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In the crosstabs, Hispanics are 53% pro-deportation. That is not a good sign.
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Slip Slidin' Away
@liberallibra.bsky.social
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Who created this "poll"? I find it hard to believe!
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Helen/Tina/Boob Punch
@tinavstammy.bsky.social
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Counter-messaging? Why stop there? How about action, like this:
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Puma Kowanbet
@pantheropologist.bsky.social
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Sorry, but are you serious? If we allowed in all of the asylum seekers fleeing the results of US intervention, then it would very likely lead to the end of our Empire! You'll regret this once the price of corn syrup, lawn care and novelty tshirts you'll never wear again skyrocket!
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Gibsonia
@gibsonia.bsky.social
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Deporting all undocumented immigrants would be catastrophic to our economy. 62% are total idiots.
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