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Anil Dash@anildash.com |
I need to write the whole piece about this, but the thing to understand is that the NYT is now just Facebook. The platform dictates narrative to normies, is totally gamed by the right, and is still so ubiquitous as to be unavoidable even by those who see how broken it is. It's just Facebook.
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Acquiredpolicy
@acquiredpolicy.bsky.social
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Same as it's always been, Manufacturing Consent.
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Drone Cusack
@herodedalus.bsky.social
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On The Media had a great episode about this very subject last year www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/otm...
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Wendell B
@wndlb.bsky.social
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Some better reporting…
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@alisonbuki.bsky.social
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As someone who has worked across tech and media I have equated them for a while now simply because there is a revolving door between the 2 companies
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Isaac Erbele
@isaacerbele.bsky.social
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This is destined to be the new "cruelty is the point," isn't it?
@adamserwer.bsky.social
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Tim Onion
@bencollins.bsky.social
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This is incredibly smart.
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ManfredLesche
@manfredlesche.bsky.social
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Are U sure? Where do you get your information from ?
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Jordan Schiffer
@jordanschiffer.bsky.social
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example:
bsky.app/profile/nyti...
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allen
@thankfuck.studio
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I know you were being less literal, but the CTO and the CPO are both from Facebook so...
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L Faunt (they/them) aka Alfred Glitchcock
@llfaunt.bsky.social
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Ok, fair, but what's the consensus on what's considered the most informationally robust publication(s) now? Cause I also feel like bitching about the NYT is the Left's version of "coastal media elites" and I'm not sure what the conclusion to draw from this is besides that everything sucks.
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Celeste Headlee
@celesteheadlee.bsky.social
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Oooh, I want to read that piece, Anil.
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Elad Nehorai
@eladn.bsky.social
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Omg this is genius
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Joseph
@60thst.bsky.social
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I may see the links from people I follow who should know better than to link to it, but otherwise, it's pretty easy to avoid.
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Matt Browner Hamlin
@mattbh.com
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I think the issue I have with the analogy is that this isn't a recent development by the Times - I can easily think of similarities going back to the Clinton impeachment. The Facebook analogy is useful for understanding it, but it's not this way because of Facebook.
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Thomas Fuchs 🔭🕹️
@thomasfuchs.at
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See also: support for genocide
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Keith Kurson
@keithlaugh.love
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oh my god YES?
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Andrew S.
@shoutingboy.bsky.social
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needs more Minions memes tbh
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Jose Munoz
@ringslinger.bsky.social
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Feels like a lot of us should lay off of wordle, connections and the crossword. Be a shame if that whole investment just kinda...tanked.
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Anil Dash
@anildash.com
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Is there good journalism and opinion in the NYT sometimes? Of course. And sometimes there are useful items on Facebook Marketplace. But what is it _for_? It's for the same thing as Facebook, and run with the same arrogance and insularity, based on the same fictions.
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Carl Nyberg
@carlnyberg312.bsky.social
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Liberals can't help but have politics be a fight over NYT editorial policy. 1. That's not where the votes are. 2. It reflects living in the past. The NYT market penetration is small. 3. It comes off as wanking to the people who have a legitimate critique of "the system."
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Abdel F Isakovic
@afisakovic.bsky.social
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Great comparison
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Fat Apollo
@fatapollo.bsky.social
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wow yes
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Wagatwe Wanjuki
@wagatwe.com
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Looking forward to reading
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Gregory the A'ight
@gregoryaight.bsky.social
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The enshittification of the NYT. Brilliant framing.
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Mike Jurney
@jurney.bsky.social
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What I think we saw during and after 2016 was the Times re-understanding itself as An Institution first. Institutions have different priorities around risk and survival, and that perspective explains a lot of otherwise baffling and out of character behavior.
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@samuelwade.bsky.social
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Can you please submit it to them as an op-ed, if only for the lulz?
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Mini
@miniyodadude27.bsky.social
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I use it as a way of knowing the views of moderates
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Mike Wilson
@mkwilson27.bsky.social
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Today’s American media cycle: 1. Right wing media focuses on some phony outrage. 2. People are “talking about it.” 3. Mainstream media has to cover it. 4. Repeat.
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James Felix Black
@tft.io
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They're in the same dopamine attention ad business
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Benjamin Johns
@baj.bsky.social
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I subscribe to a bunch of smaller outlets, but as much as I find NY Times' editorial judgment infuriating, I'm loathe to stop supporting one of the very few journalistic outlets that still sends people out to research and report stories instead of just blathering about whatever Reuters wrote up.
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Prof. Farhana Sultana
@farhana.bsky.social
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Additionally, the NYT is a genocidal mouthpiece
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Twanald
@doodoobrain.bsky.social
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It’s clear they’re operating on an algorithm that prioritizes engagement/clicks over all else.
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Sarah Goodyear
@sgoodyear.bsky.social
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The incredible (and epically long) book Anniversaries by Uwe Johnson, which is about 1967-8 in NYC, riffs on excerpts from the NYT throughout...making a great (and often very funny) case that it has been ever thus. The Times was FB before FB, really. www.nyrb.com/products/ann...
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Seth Pollack
@sethmpk.bsky.social
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Reducing local coverage but adding more games… reminds me of The Strand, or maybe Barnes & Noble too
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Ethan Jacobs 🇺🇦
@ethanjacobs.bsky.social
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How else would I know Eton is full of shit?:
www.nytimes.com/2024/01/10/w...
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Think. It. Through. 🙅♂️
@cfaller96.bsky.social
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Looking forward to the NYT’s metaverse…and virtual reality goggles…and AI reporters…and NFTs of their op-ed columnists…
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@eckdale.bsky.social
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Your takes are more often terrible than not.
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Alex Remington
@alexremington.bsky.social
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I'd offer a slight nuance – I think this is more true for the NYT's *web presence* than it is for the NYT. The print paper has a fairly different set of emphases. That said... I grant you that when someone tells you who they are, believe them, etc., so it may be a distinction without a difference.
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Righteous Christian Trading Cards
@rctcee.bsky.social
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Habermann's tongue-in-cheek "reporting" on Trump revealed the game for what it is. Keep it.
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Madam L
@madaml.bsky.social
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Yeah they suck. Quoting a Times article used to mean something. Now it means shit.
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Chris
@lucashamilton.bsky.social
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If you still have a NYT subscription, call them to cancel it. Then take that savings and donate it to NPR and/or buy a subscription to your local paper.
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Omar Shehata
@omarshehata.bsky.social
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I keep reading takes like this from smart, well informed people but I'm struggling to get it. I feel like I need a lot more background on media literacy/historical context here (with concrete examples to help me). anyone have any recommendations?
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Ted Fickes
@tedfickes.bsky.social
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It's also daytime TV...cooking, talking heads, fancy homes. A little something inoffensive and mild for everyone so you don't have to focus on the news.
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Matthew Keys
@matthewkeys.net
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Except my mom doesn't read the New York Times.
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challenge level: panda
@redpanderp.bsky.social
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It’s kind of wild how abruptly it feels like NYT became this. To me at least. I always took it with a grain of salt but there used to be legitimately good journalism buried in there.
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Andi Mann
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I've been trying to get NYT out of my feed for over a year. It's just fash-lite these days, a barely respectable veneer of 'both sides' actually totally captured by maga extremism, with zero journalistic principles or value, selling us all out in the name of access and profit. It's a nasty rag.
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Robin Broshi
@eastsidegadfly.bsky.social
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Oh please write the piece! I’m actually using Facebook to try to breakthrough to my middle aged mostly white NYT reading cohort how flawed the Times has become.
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Andrew D Thaler
@drandrewthaler.bsky.social
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I have a lot of complaints about our local paper, but they cover every single climate change issue in the region and I can reliably count on a front-page headline every time our climate commission does anything.
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Queen Gwenevere
@queengwenevere.bsky.social
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It really is, isn’t it. The watered-down both-sides presentation of “news,” your racist uncle’s loud opinion on the side, a little kvetching about inflation or “those darn kids,” your Aunt Stella’s recipes, a heartwarming human interest story about a dog, the ubiquitous homogeneity… it’s Facebook.
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Tim
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Add: it almost solely panders to middle-class white people people over 40. AND - it's just smart enough and uses the big words that allow educated people to pretend that they are participating in something smart and not something dumb like Facebook.
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Tiffany Knoell, Ph.D.
@tlknoell.bsky.social
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Thank you for the reminder to cancel my trial subscription. If I need access to their archives, I'll just access it through my university library.
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Nathan Standing
@cryptosantra.bsky.social
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I know the NYT has fallen off the edge. That's why I canceled my decades-long subscription. But the Washington Post isn't far behind.
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Michael Kuker
@mkuker.bsky.social
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Big if true.
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Georgia Z
@seedarkly.bsky.social
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It used to be just twitr. I started going to the Guardian in 2013 bc they were the only ones not padding their articles with random twts. AP is best imo
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Kai
@kaikronfield.bsky.social
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I'd read that.
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Keith
@keithtmiller.com
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I never thought about the NYT before I got a Bluesky account to be honest
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Nolan Zugernat
@zugernat.bsky.social
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And it needs to be abandoned. Too many critics of the NYT remind of X-Men and Spider-Man readers who bitch nonstop about the storylines but nevertheless continue to faithfully hand over their money every month. Vote with your wallet.
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bbqcornnuts
@bbqcornnuts.bsky.social
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It’s ridiculous and I cannot cope with the both siderism
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Juli Indica
@juliindica.bsky.social
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I canceled NYT years ago.
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maraleia
@maraleia.bsky.social
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Please do this. Call them the trash publication that they are.
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@grautwok.bsky.social
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I feel like this goes for any media/news corporation. No matter if it's left, right, centrist or whatever. There's always an agenda, we just tend to notice the ones we don't agree with more often.
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Tim Park
@timpark.bsky.social
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Furthermore, it is optimized for driving engagement - not being the journal of record any more - and so ever article is designed to drive outrage-based reading by one side or the other. We are being "rage farmed" by them into continual engagement the same way Fox News does to their audience.
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chip 🔒
@wd.teleri.net
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who is an NYT “normie” at this point, though? FB is notoriously for “olds” (people in our age demographic or, likely, older). that’s hardly a growth strategy, but NYT doesn’t have an instagram to fall back on
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David Rolfe
@dorolfe.bsky.social
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Damn this is ice cold 🥶❄️🥶❄️🥶❄️
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