I really have lost my former tolerance for "we're doomed/fucked/it's all over/they've won" takes at this point, in that they're the most dangerous attitudes one could possibly have when confronted with a truly existential political threat (which we still DO have levers to address).
well, americans do, anyway. i am much more limited, all i can do is hand the ppl who*do* have the levers water and coffee
*does a sad little cheerleading dance* go left/liberal americans, fix this for all of us!
Honestly these people are worse than useless at this point. Despair all you want in private, but intentionally spewing your cynicism and apathy in order to drag others down is the least helpful thing you could do when people’s lives are literally being destroyed as we speak
I'm also really good w/ calling out ppl who should know better. Also those who don't. Put on your middle-school mean girl persona when dealing w/ those who would steal our democracy. Scratching, biting, and kicking also works.
Yesterday I made this point to someone and they responded with, "Look where we're at now."
And buddy, it can get a lot worse and you shouldn't want it to get worse. You can prevent it from getting worse but that means not sitting on the sidelines and giving up!
There is a big difference between "the liberal order is doomed, which is probably a good thing because it was always bad" and "we're doomed". Sometimes people say the second but after thinking about it decide they meant the first, sometimes people really think the first is the second.
Yes. The name for this attitude is "conservative." It's submissiveness to corrupt authority, dressed up as necessity. (In other words, it's a short step from there to "Just following orders.")
It's really opened my eyes how voting can make a difference in one simple way: it prevents one guy from adding even more conservative judges to the Supreme Court.
That makes it feel like voting will accomplish something. We can't let these fuckers win.
to be honest I always had “win the elections” as plan A and legal weird tricks were just a side thing
still mad as hell at the Roberts court over this, though
I honestly think that the best move here is to forget about Trump.
He's a distraction. Double-down on getting Biden re-elected and make it contingent on his re-election that SCOTUS reform is essential. Make him promise to do it, and then vote like hell to make it clear that it's not an option.
Like, I'm very concerned about the GOP attempting to ban both pornography and lumping anything with a queer person in it as porn just so they can ban it
like...if you think about it, this "porn ban" is going to be absolutely impossible to enforce. It'll be like the EU Copyright Directive
I've been telling everyone to arm up and prepare for what this sort of thing will lead to but you buncha hippies keep insisting that things like this would never happen. You keep getting proven dead wrong over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
You're only allowed to say "we're doomed" if you can do a proper Scottish accent. And if you can do a proper Scottish accent by definition you'll go out biting.
Yes! My posts this morning have a doomer-y vibe because I am very distressed by all this, but the implication should always be that we should take drastic action now. The abyss is right there but we have time to avoid it.
We're in the most dangerous moment not because we're doomed, but because we're at the razor's edge of a tipping point between the future we could have and the past that a bunch of losers are desperately holding on to, and just, like, the tiniest fucking thing could push it one way or the other.
I'm firmly of the belief that virtually every person showcasing that attitude would do an immediate 180 if presented with a plan of action that felt productive
We honestly do, and we have interpersonal levers to boot. If you're dooming about democracy and haven't tried to get your GOP relatives to stay home, that's something you can do even if you're broke.
I think the main problem here is: a resolution of this crisis requires decisive action by the Democratic Party, and they seem systematically unable to do so. They'll probably just use this to encourage people to vote. Which, fair enough, it's important that Trump does not win again, but come on.
That's why the bots and trolls are posting so hard "o noes!" Bad faith.
Vent constructively everyone. What's your baddest solution? We can start there.
not only does doomerism eventually (or quickly) turn selfish and self-indulgent, but you also get the sense that its adherents are unaware that people have often faced existential threats throughout history and that we'd all be worse off now if doomerism had always won out
I don't think it's doomerist to suggest that the only things left that have a high probability of good effect are disruptive and/or not very peaceful.
I suspect that most of "we're doomed" has the implicit tagline of "...if we continue to operate within the confines of the society we grew up in."
I can't even figure out what that guy's motive in your mentions is
like enjoy your goddamned retirement on Vancouver Island instead of gloating at people who will be harmed way more than you ever will
I swear I see more "Oh I'll just go out in a blaze of glory" from people who, oh no they won't.
They're literally just shit posting through what they HOPE is the end times because they enjoy being assholes. It's a leftist version of very online pretend BoogieBoys.
I’m fucking mad I’m just trying to get mad at the right people instead of yelling at the fucking idiots I need to suck up to so they don’t get their feelings hurt.
I did a lot of that the night of the debate and the next morning but it’s absolutely not helpful after an immediate venting of emotions.
But then I rolled up my sleeves and put up my Jeaux sign on my front porch window in my extremely red state (I’m in New Orleans) bc this is too important
We are not doomed, but we have moved to an increasingly accute crisis and I'm not wholly certain how, as an extremely regular ass civilian, what actions I can and should take. The court has gone off the rails and our democracy is on life support. So what is a person to do?