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Quinta Jurecic

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it feels like the whiteness of big political media spaces right now is having a big effect on how people are thinking about the debate. eg I have seen relatively little discussion of trump's "black jobs" comment, which immediately exploded on black twitter

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Matt Swift's avatar Matt Swift @mswift.bsky.social
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To voters who are just now turning in after almost 4 years of barely paying attention, Biden sounded very old but Trump sounded absolutely 100% insane.

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Peter Olson's avatar Peter Olson @dethtron5000.bsky.social
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I have seen this too. I really wonder if post debate polling is going to go in a different direction from what people expect.

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Chaiah's avatar Chaiah @chaiah.bsky.social
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It’s been on most, if not all, of the shows on MSNBC. Symone Sanders Thompson was incensed, and rightfully so.

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Sarah Steegar's avatar Sarah Steegar @paperandairplanes.bsky.social
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And moreover that when – oh what’s the name of the awful guy with the punchable face from TX? - when he was asked about it he said “I think you know exactly what it meant” and that was supposed to imply it *wasn’t* racist! Like how is that an answer that passes?!

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🚗car downloader🚗's avatar 🚗car downloader🚗 @wouldnt.download-a-car.zip
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yeah that horrible comment was completely overshadowed by the fact that biden is a corpse

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Rich_19's avatar Rich_19 @crj418.bsky.social
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Me, then.
Me now, same.
bsky.app/profile/crj4...

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riwoche རི་བོ་ཆེ་'s avatar riwoche རི་བོ་ཆེ་ @riwoche.bsky.social
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THIS. Absolutely this.

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Back to back ships Adam's avatar Back to back ships Adam @salsa-wits.bsky.social
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I would have done unspeakable things to have someone follow up with “what is a ‘black job’?” and not let him leave the stage until answering

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Also Trump not answering any questions or his insane ramblings seem to not be being talked about either. Somehow that 'won' him the debate according to them.

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Andy Pearlman's avatar Andy Pearlman @apearlma.bsky.social
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to a certain extent, trump's debate performance can be described as "content-free, loud, confident and insulting specific groups" and if you're in one of those groups, you noticed. and if you're not, easy to miss how insulting because of the loud confidence — who openly says racist crap like that?

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Matthew Doyle's avatar Matthew Doyle @mattdoyle.bsky.social
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Saw it happen live on Univision with latines (sorry for the link to the other place, but the video's worth watching).
x.com/realMABarret...

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King of Trains.'s avatar King of Trains. @exoid.bsky.social
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In my opinion a lot of white circles more examine the vibe the politician gives off than the vibes. Trump came of as irrational and flailing, which is why a lot of people examine him by his false claims. Biden’s vibe was that he is tired and unaware of his surroundings.

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hannah gais's avatar hannah gais @hannahgais.bsky.social
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you can also tell how comfortable people in media have become with basically seeing the radical right as normalized. the headline from the debate should’ve been to the effect of highlighting trump’s comments about jan 6, not recognizing the results of this election if he loses, and roe v wade 🤷🏻‍♀️

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Vaxxed 5fold Academies of 18fold Exhi8ited 8largus's avatar Vaxxed 5fold Academies of 18fold Exhi8ited 8largus @emperorblargus.bsky.social
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@buddhaferret.bsky.social my recommendation for this is Spoutible.

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Mike Caulfield's avatar Mike Caulfield @mikecaulfield.bsky.social
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And little talk about the Univision focus group as well

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Wrecked's avatar Wrecked @jmk2445683.bsky.social
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All kinds of reactions to “Black jobs” all over TikTok where most ppl have long forgotten MSM in large part bc of its unseriousness rooted in whiteness

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amdiamanti's avatar amdiamanti @amdiamanti.bsky.social
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The media gatekeeping of not only who gets in but where their focus must lie once they’re in deliberately acts to mitigate the damage comments like that from Trump can have to the swing voters they are speaking to.

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DON FERRARI's avatar DON FERRARI @donferrari.bsky.social
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I tapped out long before it got to that, but in looking at the transcript is the point of this word salad supposed to be "black people are only good for manual labor" because that sure sounds like what he's saying

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Uncle Dude 's avatar Uncle Dude @jurisdudence.bsky.social
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Or using “Palestinian” as a slur.

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That’s Too Much, Colby's avatar That’s Too Much, Colby @thatstoomuchcolby.bsky.social
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This seems of a piece with the Univision FG that found undecided Latino men repulsed by Trump.

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Pwnallthethings's avatar Pwnallthethings @pwnallthethings.bsky.social
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Also Trump's use of 'Palestinian' as a slur

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Agent NaN's avatar Agent NaN @thaxter.bsky.social
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"black jobs" dialog is a reason I cited that I will not fully leave Twitter - a raucous wealth of humor, intelligent replies, accurately deployed fire, etc.

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whet moser's avatar whet moser @whet.bsky.social
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the post picked it up, and it’s currently above the fold, so to speak, on the app www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/...

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Adam Serwer's avatar Adam Serwer @adamserwer.bsky.social
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Both the “black jobs” remark and using palestinian as a slur are hopefully clarifying as to actual Trump’s ideology and worldview, in contrast with the imaginary trump some people have built up in their heads as the memory of his administration has receded

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mikevagomikevago's avatar mikevagomikevago @mikevago.bsky.social
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Not to mention the whole NYT discussion of "the Democrats need to replace Biden on the ticket!" "You mean with the Vice-President?" "No! Literally anyone but her. Because of, um, reasons. Here is a list of 18 white men we find acceptable and Gretchen Whitmer."

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Dave Mazella's avatar Dave Mazella @davemazella.bsky.social
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I would love to see any polling regarding spanish speaking voters and their likelihood to vote for Trump. The only evidence I've seen is the Univision thing.

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JNoodles's avatar JNoodles @jnoodles24.bsky.social
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People pulling out the knives for Kamala Harris with this "Biden must drop out" talk, cause they don't want her to be President either. Real masks off moment.

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Estarianne's avatar Estarianne @estarianne.bsky.social
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Also his use of Palestinian as a slur was big news in some circles.

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Matt Baldwin's avatar Matt Baldwin @thisbrokenwheel.bsky.social
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Trump said something outright racist about Latin Americans and/or the border in pretty much every answer gave during the debate, and I have yet to even see that mentioned in a single media write-up of it.

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Charm City Slicker (54-31)'s avatar Charm City Slicker (54-31) @sprawlhater.bsky.social
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Our mayor posted about it

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Bill Stewart's avatar Bill Stewart @billstewart.bsky.social
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The MainStreamMedia are not interested in whether Trump is a racist, they're interested in getting rid of Biden.

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Rob Pollard's avatar Rob Pollard @robpollard45.bsky.social
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This is a great point, and it's one of the reasons I still check out Twitter (even as the site has continued to degrade in multiple ways). I saw a few posts, than a few more from large accounts and who were legit angry and it informed me I had not appreciated how poorly Trump's bigotry landed.

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✨Shirese Louie 🔥's avatar ✨Shirese Louie 🔥 @enigma75.bsky.social
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I am offended by how few people—in the media, politicians, and everyday people—have raised an eyebrow over the phrase.

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Daniel Drezner's avatar Daniel Drezner @dandrezner.bsky.social
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Exploded how?

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Milan Markovic's avatar Milan Markovic @profmarkovic.bsky.social
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I think the consensus is that Biden bombed, and Trump did himself no favors either. Early data seems to show that third-party candidates benefited the most.

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ProzacElf's avatar ProzacElf @prozacelf.bsky.social
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To be fair there was a whole block on MSNBC last night about "the fuck you mean 'black jobs'?" But yes I did not really see it brought up elsewhere

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⚡️frenchy's avatar ⚡️frenchy @frenchy.blue
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Well, not to defend big political media that I despise. But I feel like the massive DNC fuckup to pick a corpse as their main candidate, and therefore will probably lose, is a bigger story than the racist felon said something racist. Which is their usual cycle.

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Katharine's avatar Katharine @halekoa.bsky.social
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He said Black jobs? Whatever next.

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Georgia Z's avatar Georgia Z @seedarkly.bsky.social
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Wait. By "exploded" do you mean a negative reaction to it? Or did ppl grab onto it as some desperate hope? We talked about it at work, but we are white, Indian and Asian professionals, so we have zero perspective!

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Dr. Earhart Sampson, PhD🌎's avatar Dr. Earhart Sampson, PhD🌎 @earhart.bsky.social
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Tbs, I have seen it a few times.

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Lisa Carnochan's avatar Lisa Carnochan @amidprivilege.bsky.social
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It's up on the Washington Post today. Late, but there.

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Carl Gibson 🍉's avatar Carl Gibson 🍉 @crgibs.bsky.social
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I maintain that elite media has a *huge* blind spot by hiring almost exclusively elite Ivy League grads (who almost always come from independently wealthy elite families). Good journalists also graduate from Big Ten and SEC schools, deserve to eat and can provide sorely needed alternate perspectives

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Ellery 's avatar Ellery @biknmusicmama.bsky.social
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I saw a few of my black friends posting about it and was like, “he said that?!” and was similarly struck by the fact that it was the only place I saw it mentioned.

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THANK YOU I have been going insane since Thursday

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Chelsea O'Brien's avatar Chelsea O'Brien @chelseamdo.bsky.social
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And is all over LinkedIn

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