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b-boy bouiebaisse@jbouie.bsky.social |
one crucial development in the ideology of anti-abortion politics is the widespread belief that pregnancy runs essentially on autopilot and no serious medical attention is ever required. allows anti-abortion zealots to ignore the fact that their policies produce maternity care deserts
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Yung Talleylean
@griblygrobly.bsky.social
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If a young Dem just Carthage Delenda Est’d “give money to young parents” they’d probably see a cabinet seat in 10yrs
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Sysfin
@sysfin.bsky.social
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It feels like pregnancy risk is something people forgot about because modern medicine is soo good. Similar issue to how good vaccines are at hiding how bad diseases can really be.
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Royal 👑
@royaltheartist.bsky.social
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they really only care about the fetus, and when it comes down to it, they don't really care about that either
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Bridget Ware
@briware.bsky.social
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I was just thinking about this the other day. They legitimately don’t understand how forcing a pregnancy to continue could ever be traumatic for a woman because in their minds it’s the most “natural” thing in the world and what women’s bodies were “created” to do.
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Kate Clancy
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What's also enraging here is that COVID is very dangerous for pregnant people so more pregnancies than ever may be high risk: it increases risk of miscarriage, stillbirth, placentitis, growth restriction, and preeclampsia.
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Anastacya
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A most excellent point. Especially for a country that already has a high maternal mortality rate, which disproportionately impacts women of color (as always). And tangential to this is the group that believes female autonomy = natural birth always, no docs.
www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...
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Dr Chin Shady
@manxinwales.bsky.social
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Its an odd one because for the species to continue 50% of the population have to essentially wilfully ignore those facts otherwise no one in their right mind would risk it. Its an argument that requires telling people that the perfectly natural thing they have wanted since childhood may kill them.
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Pé 🍸
@forevernever.bsky.social
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I mean, even with the assumption that pregnancies don't have complications, what do they think will happen in areas without L&D doctors and midwife practitioners?
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Ozma
@rowyourbot.bsky.social
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I fear we’ll get to the point when women got better reproductive care when old crone midwifes were taking care of them.
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Horses for Courses
@horsecourser.bsky.social
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this is very common in very religious groups, who are super pro-trad gender roles. "It's all natural"/home birth/anti modern medicine in general, and it's yet another avenue of control over women.
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Heather Chacon
@wickettred.bsky.social
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As someone who nearly died on the floor of a Kentucky ER due to an ectopic pregnancy, cannot stress enough how much this is bull shit.
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Aviendha69 - ⊃∪∩⪽
@aviendha69.bsky.social
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Eugenics.
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Aviendha69 - ⊃∪∩⪽
@aviendha69.bsky.social
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wow. Back to the Dark Ages.
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Peter Jeffe
@pjeffe.bsky.social
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I do believe that many anti-abortion supporters feel that pregnant people who have complications should be allowed to die, to weed them out of the gene pool. It's hard to believe that all of them are that ignorant of the realities of pregnancy.
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Deborah La Torre
@deblatorre.bsky.social
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No man can ever understand how physically grueling pregnancy is on a woman’s body.
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AnnieGTMD
@anniegt.bsky.social
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These are the same people ("pro-life!") who refused to expand Medicaid because it was a Democratic thing. They don't care about anyone but themselves and their donors.
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ACTION CODE: [DUEL]
@flauclaw.bsky.social
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"ignore"
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lisajane
@lisajane.bsky.social
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pro abortion/repro rights adoptee here to say We’re not incubators for HAPs.
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Nerdy Mushroom
@nerdymushroom.bsky.social
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They also assume the pregnant people and babies who really matter to them (well off white, cis, straight, Christian, non disabled, etc ones) will have no issues getting medical care if they need it. No one else actually matters to them in any meaningful way.
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Alex Ross
@wergend.bsky.social
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I was quite shocked as to how many women shared anti-abortion views. Quite as you say, ignorance is bliss 😕
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Bill Flarsheim
@billflarsheim.bsky.social
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Knowing that the evolution of Homo Saipans has resulted in a trade off between creating the largest babies with the largest brains possible and not killing too many mothers, it makes perfect sense that serious medical issues during pregnancy are common.
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mrs meowkins
@mrsmeowkins.bsky.social
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like when alito said in Robb’s that overturning roe would be nbd because women could very easily just give the kids up for adoption, no muss no fuss
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Woody
@woody9six.bsky.social
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Defacto Eugenics...
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David Bonowitz
@dbonowitz.bsky.social
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Naive question: Is it possible to be anti-abortion but also take pregnancy seriously? I agree that a simplistic view of pregnancy can lead to "care deserts," but the NBC piece doesn't mention abortion or Dobbs. It seems more about rural healthcare. After all, we have similar problems in CA.
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Jerome
@fjerome.bsky.social
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I would be afraid for my wife to try to be pregnant and give birth in my home state of Louisiana. Extremely easy to imagine a common complication going untreated.
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Benjamin Johns
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"Imagine a world where a woman's body shuts down unwanted pregnancies, a fetus is viable as soon as a heart flutters, ectopic pregnancies are not only safe but come to term." "Wow! Some sort of women's health moonshot?" "Ha! No. I just need you to imagine it so I can pass REALLY cruel legislation."
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Quangle-Wangle
@maryaed.bsky.social
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Antivaxxers claim the same about deaths from measles, it was all fine and insofar as it wasn't, our hygiene is so much better that those problems don't happen anymore.
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Faith Merino
@faithmerino.bsky.social
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It’s the same rightwing belief that children run on autopilot and childcare is akin to putting a plant on a windowsill: as long as you remember to water it, it’ll grow on its own.
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Antilles
@wedgeantilles.bsky.social
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The pro life party is going to cause rising infant mortality rates, who could have known
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Fuzzy Mike
@fuzzymike.bsky.social
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I think the single most compelling argument against anti-abortion laws is “do you want this decided by women and doctors, or by an elected prosecutor who thinks ectopic pregnancies are viable”
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Alice
@thealice.bsky.social
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There's no moral end to what the anti abortion movement wants. They're only out to exert pain
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Chairman Goa Tse-tung
@jctenton.bsky.social
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everyone knows pregnancy is easy and straightforward. it was never a leading cause of death for women or anything
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'viktor shtrum'
@viktorshtrum.bsky.social
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also helps explain away any pregnant women they kill with their policies - "normal" pregnancies don't have issues etc so there must be something not "normal" here so no need for sympathy or reflection.
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Aabra C. Mastodon, PDX Stereotype
@acjaggard.bsky.social
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What is the name for that “women’s wombs are merely soil, men’s sperm are the seed” mentality
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G!
@gpike.bsky.social
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When my sister had her first kid she learned a WHOLE bunch of things about pregnancy our mom never even knew about after having 8 kids. Like, a frightening amount of things. 😬 My parents are so lucky their wilful ignorance in general didn't result in any tragedies.
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Bill Stewart
@billstewart.bsky.social
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Which is so appalling. I mean, there's even standard church liturgy for welcoming women back to church after they've survived childbirth. And a lot of the anti-maternity-care laws are pre-Dobbs performatively vicious ones that they wrote knowing they couldn't enforce them so who cares about details
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Sequentialkady
@sequentialkady.bsky.social
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I mean, it's not like child birth is one of the most dangerous things a woman can do, and historically it was the leading cause of death for women between the ages of 16 and 40.
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Susan M
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I disagree. They know and don’t care. It’s fascist thinking: the weak deserve to die.
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RDS (formerly shawphd)
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They also don’t have the deep rhetorical base they have for addressing the unwanted baby aspect. The biological fact of pregnancy is that it’s whole-body organ donation with a not inconsiderable risk of death or lifelong disability. Even dead bodies need consent prior to this.
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Franklin Piss🇺🇦
@silkscreenfiend.bsky.social
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And even when they don't, they force doctors to make risk assessments and thus care choices based on the law rather than on medicine.
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GreenEngineer
@greenengineer.bsky.social
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Not sure this is a matter of “ignore”. Kind think it’s more a matter of “doesn’t give a shit”.
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Adz/FullMETAL, delivers correct opinions poorly & eats cheese
@adzfm.bsky.social
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Or, alternatively, revel in that fact.
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Hemlock Autumn
@hemlockautumn.bsky.social
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In the long teme, they will die out.
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Ken Burnside
@kenburnside.bsky.social
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I am waiting for the Michael Mann movie, where a man takes his ectopically pregnant wife to a state legislature, demanding they produce the doctor who can save the fetus and his wife's life. Brandishing a gun and holding a 'pro life' legislator's life hostage. "Either they both live, or you die."
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Andromeda Yelton
@thatandromeda.bsky.social
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A thing Mama Doctor Jones on YouTube said once that really stuck with me is - other specialties are surprised by HOW FAST things can get bad in ob/gyn. Because pregnant people are usually young & healthy and their bodies will compensate until they…can’t. 100 miles.
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Sean
@publichealth.bsky.social
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an underreported reason why republicans want to end sex ed
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Jade Cargill stan account 🍉🇺🇦🇺🇸
@adaytaramember.bsky.social
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Love to protect the “sanctity of life” by making a pregnant woman drive two states over
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🪻Axel 🌱 Lycan 🌹
@axellycan.bsky.social
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it fits in with their belief in “the natural order” that their ideology has constructed for them
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Jed Willard
@jedwillard.bsky.social
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For most mammals, it is indeed essentialy autopilot. But not for humans. For evolutionary reasons. Link to evolution-denial? Reason-denial? I dunno.
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Kevin OMalley
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They are perfectly happy with stripping all but the richest of maternity care.
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Zig Zag Wanderer
@zigzagwanderer.bsky.social
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Christian ethno-nationalism is deadly.
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bettybarcode
@bettybarcode.bsky.social
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Possibly this, too: I think anti-abortion politics also trade on the idea that embryos (or zygotes?) start out as recognizable but slightly underdeveloped babies, only much, much smaller. Hence the false fetal heartbeat claims.
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