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b-boy bouiebaisse@jbouie.bsky.social |
one thing i have noticed in my IRL conversations about the war is that it really has not penetrated broader american consciousness that the main obstacle to an end to the fighting is netanyahu
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Sarah Thurmond
@sarahthurmond.bsky.social
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Really? Who do they think is calling all the shots Israel makes, Biden?
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BoulderSizedBoulder ✡️🇺🇦
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Probably because hamas keeps tanking them. Like this time negotiators swapped out the agreement agreed to by all with one favoring hamas.
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✡️ Tim Lieder
@timlieder.bsky.social
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Oh poor you. You can't get your friends to hate jews like you do.
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Wendell B
@wndlb.bsky.social
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Your editor sez: [to an end to the fighting] are utterly superfluous words
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Slick Sharkey, Esq.
@slicksharkey.bsky.social
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Has Hamas ever agreed to release all its hostages? That seems like a stumbling block.
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MAJC Man
@themajcman.bsky.social
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Also Hamas! Notably they didn’t actually accept the ceasefire proposal but came up with their own
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@chuck-hansen.bsky.social
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When I first heard his comment about invading Rafah with or without a deal I assumed it must be fake.
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🔻US Taxes Fund Israeli Warcrimes🔻
@bigamishdoinks.bsky.social
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Hmmmm maybe that's bc the major news media (including your employer, the New York times) has simply refused to cover this event accurately.
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Rachel Klein
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In my experience, a lot of this seems to come from a fear of non-Jewish Americans being painted as anti-Semitic for even CONSIDERING a possible critique of the leader of Israel. And obviously “my experience” is always going to be influenced by the fact that someone talking to me is talking to a Jew…
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Matt Goldberg
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For all the talk of “don’t you care about the hostages?” I’ll tell you who definitely does not care about the hostages: Benjamin Netanyahu.
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Doc Wolverine, A weasel with a threatening aura, MD
@doctorwolverine.bsky.social
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It's been wild watching it slowly dawn on people that Bibi has an invested interest (something like up to 200 years in prison if served consecutively for various corruptions) in staying in power. Suddenly the choice to blow up the Iranian embassy, among a host of other war crimes, makes more sense.
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Brady
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For Americans I think it’s a fact without much purchase. It comforts nobody (other than maybe dissembling FP posters); you can file Schumer’s “bombshell” in the empty threat folder. We may hear more about it down the road if he’s cast in a role to absolve us all.
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Nobody Ever
@frambley1.bsky.social
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Yep, most normies have no idea that this war is his keep out of jail free card.
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Anna Rompage
@urbanfarmer3321.bsky.social
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I’m not sure many ever will We are socially conditioned from our birth to see the Israelites as gods first real chosen ones We Jews are always portrayed as the victims throughout history, even though we have also committed genocide, even in this moment
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@mcdaragh.bsky.social
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TBF HAMAS has been throwing spokes in the wheels of the process too
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@abuamirah1020.bsky.social
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1) What I want to know is this, how do we know that Bibi isn't in kolusion with HAMAS. I mean MOSSAD knew for a year before the attack that it was coming and they/he did nothing about it. Also after the attack why did Bibi ask Qatar to still send HAMAS money?
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Katelyn Oldham *labor lawyers get it done*
@katelynstarrpdx.bsky.social
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Really really depressing.
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LaReyne
@lareyne.bsky.social
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Evil old men cause a lot of trouble in this world
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@loffles.bsky.social
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I had someone tell me "Hamas could end this war today," and I just cannot comprehend how a person could ever come to believe that.
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Kim
@kimoco.bsky.social
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That is bad, and shows a lack of intelligence or curiosity in Americans.
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En Buen Ora
@enbuenora.bsky.social
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Palestinians are celebrating as if the Hamas announcement means a deal is real, but Israeli officials reportedly deny one exists & I don't think we have not seen the Qatari & Egyptian mediators announce. So I'm not sure of what will happen, but these people clearly need a moment of joy.
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🇵🇸Dr. Tim Henke (tɪm 'ɦɛŋ.kə)
@timhenke.bsky.social
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And that is of course by design
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Professor Vibes
@profv.bsky.social
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In their defense no one saw my skeet
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Wayne Fryback
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William Adler
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fwiw, Israel is saying this isn't the U.S.-backed ceasfire proposal they agreed to, it's a different one.
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Gregg Levine
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I don’t doubt your observation, as this seems to be absent from a lot reporting, too. Editors should make it mandatory to include Bibi’s pending criminal proceedings, his need to stay in power to avoid jail, and his need for forever war to stay in power. You can say it in two sentences.
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Ducky Krup
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That would require American news to cover that angle
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OWL
@claratomina.bsky.social
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Dear b-boy: That's because you don't know me IRL and we haven't had a conversation! I'd be shouting it from the housetop if I could get up there. :)
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Norbizness
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It's not a particularly complicated connect the dots given the "once this is over we're burying you under the prison" protests being carried out in Israel.
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Kevin James
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Yeah, it's been maddening trying to explain it to people who are only half paying attention. People are very resistant to the fact that Netanyahu does not care about the hostages and just wants to keep fighting for his own ends
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seancurry1
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really need someone to start rounding up all the times netanyahu and his government have rejected a ceasefire and/or hostage deal
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@tequila0341.bsky.social
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Trainsgender Menace
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I'm far from an expert on this but I'm not aware of any anti-genocide coalition that could actually form a government in Israel even if Bibi went to jail
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Corey Atad
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this is because both the administration and much of the media have made it a mission to disaggregate the real political machinations of the situation from the warfare itself. Biden hugging Bibi was a shield.
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Rob Pollard
@robpollard45.bsky.social
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Is that true? It seems to me that Hamas and Bibi & co are equal obstacles. They need each other to stay in power. Thus the extreme difficulty of this as a diplomatic situation, as neither side cares one iota about Palestinian civilians, and thus has every incentive to keep fighting.
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George Dubya
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Josh Marshall has been really good on this. The current coalition is Bibi's party plus some extremist racist settler freaks, with a razor thin margin. If the war stops the coalition fractures, the settlers lose their best opportunity to do terrible stuff, and Bibi goes to prison.
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JM
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When talking to people who are really unaware, I've been analogizing the situation as "Netanyahu now = Bush post 9/11" Which... I don't know how *accurate* it is, but it sets up a lot of context really quickly, so it's got that going for it.
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Robin Broshi
@eastsidegadfly.bsky.social
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Which is stunning because hating Netanyahu is the one thing most people can agree on.
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Aubrey Gilleran
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The campus protests have gotten so much more coverage in the mainstream American press than the Israeli protests. I don't know how many Americans are even aware of Netanyahu's deep unpopularity.
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Debate Stomping Robot
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How about Hamas? Are they cool with stopping the fighting and releasing the hostages and giving up everyone who participated in an attack? (Until now, they have been very not cool with that.) I think the problem is that there are extremists in both places, who put faith above human existence.
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@timscurtin.bsky.social
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Going my my neighbors’ conversations, they have carefully avoided hearing anything that might have shifted their priors from 9/11. They ask each other for confirmation of their intuitions instead of seeking out actual information.
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Jonathan
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Sadly I am finding that in the US, the focus has switched to the student encampments on campus and actual discussions about the war and casualties are few and far between
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Peter Feld 🍉
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the main obstacle to end the fighting is zionism
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Serenity Now!
@cpo10za.bsky.social
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The reporting hasn’t framed it this way, & the WH/Congress haven’t presented it this way. So most people don’t realize just how much of it has been due to Bibi’s obstruction & sabotage of any solid peace resolutions.
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Ellery
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Don’t overestimate Hamas’ seriousness about ending it either, though. None of the men in charge care about the deaths of innocents more than their own access to power
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Chewey Carapace
@cheweycarapace.bsky.social
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It's Israel being our client state that's the problem. No shortage of bloodthirsty lunatics ready to take his spot and continue the genocide. Just another example of our right wing pawn doing what he said he would, and the various apparatuses of US hegemony pretending to be shocked.
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💉💉💉Kumara📎Republic↙️↙️↙️
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Now that his strategy of useful idiocy toward Hamas is up in smoke, Bibi is cutting off the nose to spite the face, just to stay out of jail - and the Hague. Biden can & should intervene like Eisenhower did during the Suez Crisis.
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Shen-yi Liao
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That’s not my sense after reading this interview with the Israel opposition leader, who repeats many of the same rhetorical points.
www.nytimes.com/2024/04/27/m...
If so, then the obstacle is not just Netanyahu, but Israel.
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Frostellicus
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My Israeli relatives realize this
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Pete Mortensen
@morepete.bsky.social
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And literally because of his personal legal jeopardy if he's not in office.
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