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Kevin M. Kruse@kevinmkruse.bsky.social |
Dear Reporters,
If you’re interviewing a theocrat who says “all our laws are based on the Ten Commandments” and you don’t immediately ask them to provide evidence and examples for that laughably stupid claim, just go ahead and quit your job.
www.nytimes.com/2024/06/21/u...
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Steve Darnall
@stevedarnall.bsky.social
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I knew something was up when they replaced "All the News That's Fit to Print" with "Ehhh, Whatever."
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andycrain.bsky.social
@andycrain.bsky.social
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Let’s rank ancient legal and moral traditions by their impact on US law: 1. Germanic Pagan 2. Roman Pagan 3. Greek Pagan 4. Hebrew 5. Native North American 6. Muslim 7. Zoroastrian 8. Indian Hindu/Buddist/Jain 9. Chinese Confucian/legalism 10. Mezoamerican The basis of our law is broad.
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Marc N Cunat
@marccunat.bsky.social
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Criminal Adultery is still on the books in #Georgia law.justia.com/codes/georgi...
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rifka from Preroll Honda Lesbian
@rifka.bsky.social
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probably a good time to start using alt text even if it’s at least 25 years late
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Chris Marlowe
@marlowechris.bsky.social
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Wait, why are they working on a Sunday? Doesn't the 4th Commandment count? How dare they hold rallies on the day of rest, forcing all those security people and other staff to work instead of "keeping the "Sabbath holy" (not to mention not all Christians agree the Sabbath is Sunday)
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Liane Yvkoff
@liane.bsky.social
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Show us the byline
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riwoche རི་བོ་ཆེ་
@riwoche.bsky.social
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One suspects in short order we will be referring to a number of reporters as stenographers, for they do little more than repackage press releases and regurgitate nonsense from non-credible sources without providing analysis.
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PeoriaBummer
@peoriabummer.bsky.social
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Hell, ask them which 10 commandments. Even the Bible isn’t clear on this.
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Lauowolf
@lauowolf.bsky.social
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... still on probation for that one envious look at my neighbor's ass
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Jonathan McDowell
@planet4589.bsky.social
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I'm just annoyed about the Hammurabi erasure
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alex
@msencarta.bsky.social
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English common law is a liberal myth
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Pop-Pop, the Fez-Cat
@toygunhitman.bsky.social
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"Which Commandments? Which tablets? Which time? You know there were like six hundred, right? No? You didn't read that? Did you John 5:10? I'm gonna guess you ain't read that."
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MI-Forest
@maiee.bsky.social
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which does not explain why our/any laws *should be based* upon anything in the bible.
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Amateur Expert Opinions
@amateurexpertop.bsky.social
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lol this fucking subliterate yahoo doesn't even mention exodus, leviticus, or judges. just vibes-based biblical literalism
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KP_z
@fromktoz.bsky.social
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And also, several of the commandments are not represented in our laws at all! Where are the laws about respecting your parents? Where are the laws about coveting? They don't exist!
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Deerwings
@deerwings.bsky.social
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Nevermind the Ten Commandments and the book of Genesis were hijacked from OTHER sources and OTHER religions and cobbled together to make a new one
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Paula Schaap
@redsonja.bsky.social
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My favorite is when reporters interview people who claim to be faithful Christians, churchgoers, etc., and they never, ever follow up with: "And how often do you go to church?"
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Derring Pax
@derringerpax.bsky.social
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Compromise- states can require "thou shall not kill" in all classrooms if they outlaw the death penalty and "stand your ground"
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comfortably_dumb
@comfortablybumd.bsky.social
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Brb, im reporting old flying spaghetti monster memes as graven images to the fbi.
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comfortably_dumb
@comfortablybumd.bsky.social
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Didnt know you could be arrested for fucking your neighbors wife.
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Ian Bowers
@iggdawg.bsky.social
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People who claim this kind of thing always baffle me. You can't tell right from wrong on your own? Only in some religious context? You don't have your own moral compass, you just borrow one and go based on vibes from there?
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Self-Examined
@truthspeak7.bsky.social
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He means Exodus and Deuteronomy, but you cannot expect an aspiring theocrat to have actually read the Bible, can you?
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Ward Q. Normal
@wardqnormal.bsky.social
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You've never noticed that 40% of our laws are about which god we have to worship, and how, and when?
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🔞Yvvy B🔞
@alchemic-punk.bsky.social
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I think the bigger problem is that at least 3, 5 depending on which 10 commandments are referred to, directly contradict the 1st Ammendment. And that isn't even getting into the separation of state and church which completely breaks this bananas notion.
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CB
@cborshuk.bsky.social
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They would just smugly answer “murder”, smirk and walk away
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@rednecklefty.bsky.social
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It must have fallen through the cracks, given there were 3 reporters involved. It would be nice to ask them if they did follow up on this assertion.
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@chirp0403.bsky.social
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This!!!!
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AAron
@aightandsound.bsky.social
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even easier: literally just ask them to name the ten commandments on the spot
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@jodilh.bsky.social
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It's stunning how they just go along and no after thought for follow-up questions?
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Pwnallthethings
@pwnallthethings.bsky.social
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Only 3/10 are illegal at all (murder, stealing, false witness), and the constitution goes out of its way to ensure laws /can't/ be based on several others. Such a dumb claim
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Dustin Du Cane
@dustinducane.bsky.social
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Ask them where the Second Amendment is in the Ten Commandments. And the First.
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Paul Atreides-Nuts
@paulatreidesnuts.bsky.social
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Maybe campaign finance law was on that 3rd tablet Moses dropped?
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🌻 ☮️ ᗪIᗩᑎOᗰIGᕼTY ☮️ 🌻
@blopeep.bsky.social
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and if they need help practicing, just point them here:
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DBdant
@dbdant.bsky.social
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FYI - Here's a quick response to faulty claims that our laws are based on Christian 10 Commandments. It's like Noah's magic zoo boat - you can believe it if you want, but it doesn't make it true. #10Commandments youtu.be/eWrdy1z-IB4?...
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DBdant
@dbdant.bsky.social
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First, reporters should watch this 2015 video by @mrsbettybowers.bsky.social on how the Ten Commandments are not the basis for all American laws. youtu.be/eWrdy1z-IB4?...
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@leesarenae.bsky.social
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It took three writers... Rick Rojas, David W. Chen and Elizabeth Dias to compile this claptrap.
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BRAK AND BLUE
@yinkadoubledare.bsky.social
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10 amendments in the bill of rights, 10 (or 11 if you look at Louisiana law) Commandments, checkmate libs
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Michael Jacobs
@abogadomike.bsky.social
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“Thou shalt not engage in contacts, combinations or conspiracies in unreasonable restraints of trade.”
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En Buen Ora
@enbuenora.bsky.social
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one quote had the politician saying the 10 Commandments were the first laws, from Moses, and I would like to have asked the gentleman if he had heard that Moses in those same scriptures was said to be from Egypt, i.e. already existed, and had laws, b/c that seems a pretty big part of the Moses story
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Azathoth's Daddy
@azathothsdaddy.bsky.social
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I can't think of anything in the Constitution that derives from the Ten Commandments.
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CJ the Awkward
@awkwardleftycj.bsky.social
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Oh sure, our government created labor laws in deference to the command to keep the Sabbath and not because workers literally died for us to have weekends.
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E. Allyn
@ericallyn.bsky.social
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Also, the fact that some versions of the Ten Commandments are thousands of years old is irrelevant at best. I mean, so is slavery. (Though some of them may take that as a positive example.)
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PeterS
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especially the "i am the lord, thy god, blah blah blah ..." is that in the actual constitution or just the bill of rights?
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Mike Stucka
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My favorite bit from someone trying to make a theocracy: "We've been attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of the culture" - Rev. Ray Mummert, Dover creationist.
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patrick
@ptpower.bsky.social
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The media are happy participants in turning this country into the stupidest on the planet.
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@revtravis.bsky.social
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I'd be happy if they just asked which 'Ten'? People would be surprised the amount of variation in the Bible, let alone between sects.
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Hate Wanks: Attorney at Law
@guyver3x.bsky.social
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Lots of video piracy in the bible
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Ryan Paige
@ryanpaige.bsky.social
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Makes me wonder why Alvin Bragg didn't go ahead and get that adultery conviction on the record against Trump while he was doing the phony business records case.
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Innocent🕷Abroad
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My Bar Mitzvah speech was all about that week’s Torah portion. As a recall, it was from Leviticus & covered speed limits, LLCs, & the Second Amendment
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Estarianne
@estarianne.bsky.social
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I covet my neighbor's ass every day and it's perfectly legal.
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A-A-Ron
@radix4801.bsky.social
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"Thou shalt not deny the proliferation of the 100-round drum magazine." Checkmate, atheists.
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Oliver Katzz - Save Democracy,Biden 24!💙🇺🇦💙🏳️🌈
@oliverkatzz.bsky.social
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That complete POS is running for Congress here and he has a whole bunch of daughters too! Wonder how he'd feel if something happened at home...🤔🤔 (probably never hear about it)
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Ashford
@ashokhotnik.bsky.social
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Ya, that whole Code of Hammurabi must doesn't count.
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Nihl L'Amas
@nih-llamas.bsky.social
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Justin Noormand
@justin-noormand.bsky.social
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Hammurabi just spinning in his grave
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@robinthereanimato.bsky.social
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I'm currently serving 25 to life for coveting my neighbor's ass
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Dru Stevenson
@drustevenson.bsky.social
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They're just repeating something they've heard a million times in Sunday sermons. Not sure why people worry so much about AI merely parroting stuff and filling in gaps with nonsense, given that the people we put in charge have been doing that forever.
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@vonhonkington.bsky.social
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Any sufficiently online person would recognize the ten commandments do not address Tree Law
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Matt Salomone
@matthematics.com
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Exhibit 5,382 of “most reporters are ignorant of Movement Evangelicalism”. They either cede the point because they believe it to be genuine, or because they don’t feel confident in their own ability to fact-check… when meanwhile this was never really about factual claims in the first place.
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Sam Welter
@knightofnothing.bsky.social
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We say "reporters" when we often mean "stenographers"
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Gabriel S. Jacobs
@gsjphd.bsky.social
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the fixation on the Ten Commandments is particularly weird because there are plenty of good civic principles like "pay your workers on time" and "it's the owner's responsibility to keep a dangerous animal confined" and "standardize weights & measures" that have correspondents ELSEWHERE in Scripture.
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JoyComethInTheMorning
@sheadapts.bsky.social
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The reporter is likely part of Sultzburger's kitten snuffing/ huffing consortium.
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Kalil
@kalilchernov.bsky.social
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My favorite response is the daily show game of asking them, "The Ten Commandments, hunh? Name five."
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Marley Jay, a Werewolf of Wall Street
@marleywrites.bsky.social
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No, it’s true. I got a parking ticket the other day and I asked what rule I broke. They said “fifth commandment,” and I had to just pay the fine.
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John Shannonhouse
@jlshannonhouse.bsky.social
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You forget the Sermon on the Mount "blessed are the journalists who maintain access, for they shall inherit the few remaining positions when the news downsizes"
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Jen Ebbeler
@jenebbeler.bsky.social
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Funny that these great lovers of Western Civ apparently don’t know sh&t about the history of law.
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robertus
@robertus.bsky.social
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"Thou shalt not jaywalk" must've been on the tablet that Moses dropped
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Freeminds
@freeminds.bsky.social
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I wonder why they leave out what the Bible says the punishment for violating them should be. Over and over again it says to kill the person.
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Michan Connor
@michanconnor.bsky.social
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“Covet thy neighbor’s shit” is the sum and substance of the American Way
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Sinboy
@sinboy.bsky.social
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Highly paid stenographers.
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Cam Walker
@walks30.bsky.social
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The implied authority of imaginary friends after puberty should halt all rational debate.
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Gene Penise
@genepenise.bsky.social
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I thought "well, akshually" was as good as a cite?
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DougofGabriola
@islandgardener.bsky.social
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At the very least ask them which version of the 10 commandments they are referring too. There are at least 3.
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Nathan Kalmoe (he/him)
@nathankalmoe.bsky.social
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We need to teach the controversy, Kevin.
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@pershing48.bsky.social
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I did a nickel in Attica for coveting my neighbors ass
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Rye appreciator
@jimadamsgeo.bsky.social
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Few people know that Moses was a cracker jack contract law man with a particular speciality in mergers and acquisitions.
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Jennifer Van Goethem
@jennvg.bsky.social
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It might be more fun to ask them to recite them all.
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David Emmett
@motomatters.bsky.social
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Jesus turning water into wine, but only enough wine that everyone stayed below the legal limit established for driving
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Nothings Monstered
@nothingsmonstrd.bsky.social
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The obvious first question, right from the first commandment, is "Which religions are you banning? Will you be keeping the Methodists, or the Baptists?"
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Not Yet Post Democracy Joshua Vaughan
@outerleftfield.bsky.social
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Ah yes the many Section Clauses of the Commandments…
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It's a Pip!
@nopipbutcpip.bsky.social
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Do reporters ask for evidence anymore? Is that actually a thing that is done?
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