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Philip Bump

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The reason pundits like the contested convention thing is that it plays to their vanities: what if the smart people made a meritocratic decision about who’s best? This is driven, in part, by being mostly isolated from negative reactions to their opinions over the years.

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Carter Kalchik's avatar Carter Kalchik @carterkalchik.bsky.social
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Where “meritocratic” = their subjective choice, and any other choice was underhanded game-playing

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Coriolus Nimrod's avatar Coriolus Nimrod @coriolusn.bsky.social
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The judge I clerked for used to say about judicial elections, "merit selection sounds like a great idea until you get to the question of who decides who has merit." Haven't yet seen the elite selector I trust more than the electorate, as problematic as the electorate can be.

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Daniel's avatar Daniel @daniel12345.bsky.social
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No

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??'s avatar ?? @jojosbizarrelife.bsky.social
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The most deranged part in all of that is their assumption of themselves being included in that group of "smart people"

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Arthur "Two Sheds" Jackson 's avatar Arthur "Two Sheds" Jackson @sich.bsky.social
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The reason why people like this is because it sells newspapers/views. The only reason they want chaos is because they are the brokers of chaos and they love it.

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Believing that meritocracy exists in politics (or damn near anywhere else) suggests a person is vastly more vain than they are smart.

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Simply Ed's avatar Simply Ed @gojira65.bsky.social
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Nick Kristof, the guy who ran for governor in Oregon even though he didn't live or vote there, may be one of the most clueless human beings ever gifted with a national opinion column.

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Michelle, aka Ms. Geek 2024's avatar Michelle, aka Ms. Geek 2024 @msgeek.bsky.social
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They miss the smoke-filled rooms where white men figured things out without the input of the little people. The last time that happened, 1968, we got Hubert H Humphrey. Nixon wiped the floor with that hapless "happy warrior."

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thegregbucking.bsky.social's avatar thegregbucking.bsky.social @thegregbucking.bsky.social
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Spoiled, pampered rich people completely insulated from poor or working people and never being held accountable for their awful takes, always always failing upward.

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John Crossley's avatar John Crossley @jcc72.bsky.social
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I hear you and agree. That said, it’s not like a different (limited) group of “smart” people didn’t make the decision that got us to this point. Biden being the nominee was decided way before anyone got a chance to vote on it.

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Mackenzie's avatar Mackenzie @mackenzievogt.bsky.social
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Also “the hoi polloi aren’t capable of their own decisions”

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No Worries if Not's avatar No Worries if Not @nottodayknees.bsky.social
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The Preening of Platonist Pundits

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Jorge Caballero's avatar Jorge Caballero @datadrivenmd.social
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I appreciate you for saying this

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Franklin D. Roosefella's avatar Franklin D. Roosefella @roosefella.bsky.social
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their obsession with the ivy League and "elite universities" is probably related

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Franklin D. Roosefella's avatar Franklin D. Roosefella @roosefella.bsky.social
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or ever have to own up to a single error or poor prediction

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David Rafferty's avatar David Rafferty @davidrafferty.bsky.social
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Or is it that they’re just professionally compelled to drama and think of life as a movie?

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Steph Scythes's avatar Steph Scythes @stephscythes.bsky.social
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There most definitely should have been a contested convention in 2015 when this entire Trump hell was sealed.

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BarbaRoast's avatar BarbaRoast @barbaroast.bsky.social
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MAGA would love this too. Sure, Trump would get his ass handed to him if he agreed to another debate, but I doubt polling would improve for the dems.

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Philip Bump's avatar Philip Bump @pbump.com
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I can’t imagine asserting with unwavering confidence that I knew who was or wasn’t the best candidate against Trump.

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Joseph's avatar Joseph @joseph-crowley.bsky.social
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Also a contested convention would sell subscriptions and ads around the convention and leading up to the convention. The short term play is to have the messiest most drama ridden thing till November. Terrible election strategy and hopelessly naive, but it would sell for a few months.

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amdiamanti's avatar amdiamanti @amdiamanti.bsky.social
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Also driven by a real resentment over which voters are the true Dem base and wanting so badly to find a way to excise them out of the selection process.

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b-boy bouiebaisse's avatar b-boy bouiebaisse @jbouie.bsky.social
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being isolated from everyone outside of their social class

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Why don't these pundits remember what MAGA says they will do to them? MAGA Kamps will be a pretty big negative reaction.

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Oh I thought they were paid yappers to help sell papers oops

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The future producer of “Himbo Heist”'s avatar The future producer of “Himbo Heist” @legalminimum.bsky.social
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They also like it because it makes their opinions appear to matter, and also because they think TV is real.

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Dag.'s avatar Dag. @3fecta.bsky.social
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Very white male dominated too. Let's slot another white dude or maybe Whitmer in there and kick Biden and Harris to the curb. There aren't any externalities here. Everybody I know agrees with this...

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Winged Hussar's avatar Winged Hussar @wingedhussar.bsky.social
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The smart people. Uh huh.

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Sock Puppet Pundit's avatar Sock Puppet Pundit @sockpuppetpundit.bsky.social
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Sounds like a “rural diner” effort. Dems want to give credence to the privileged white people who wag their fingers at Dems for putting up an old man while jerking off Trump with the other hand. Meanwhile, they completely ignore Black Twitter saying, “Did he just say ‘Black jobs’? Aw, hell, no.”

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Nick Wagers's avatar Nick Wagers @nwagers.bsky.social
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The delegates that would ultimately do the selection are picked through a popularity contest that has little to do with their credentials, policy positions, activism, or wisdom.

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Becca's Mullet's avatar Becca's Mullet @beccasmullet.bsky.social
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Ooooh! Man with funny last name speak truth! Dayum!

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Victor Catano's avatar Victor Catano @vgcatano.bsky.social
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Every cycle we get breathless fan fiction from political reporters: "We could really, this time for sure, get a contested convention!" And it never happens, and anyone who suggests that it will is someone you can safely ignore.

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Anne Lutz Fernandez's avatar Anne Lutz Fernandez @lutzfernandez.bsky.social
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They also like political drama, driven in part by being mostly isolated from the negative effects of political drama on their lives.

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Stephen Schiavone's avatar Stephen Schiavone @stephenschiavone.bsky.social
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Or the negative consequences.

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banger post 10/10 would like twice if I was a bigger weirdo than I am

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Melico 's avatar Melico @melico.bsky.social
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Also it's just exciting for them to write West Wing fan fic when reality is ugly and boring.

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cidonnelly1's avatar cidonnelly1 @cidonnelly.bsky.social
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The McGovern rules, like some political innovations, sounded like a good idea, but they haven’t really haven’t produced the results we wanted. At the start of the primaries, 70% of voters said they didn’t want another face off between Biden and Trump, yet that is exactly what this system produced.

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RTOIT's avatar RTOIT @rtoit.bsky.social
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Ahhh, the "smart" people.

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Ton Chrysoprase's avatar Ton Chrysoprase @tonchrysoprase.bsky.social
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What if smart people who for no other reason than their obvious brilliance got into the right universities that their parents and grandparents went to and then got into pundit jobs on the merit of their last name made meritocratic decisions…

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TheeBoneDaddy's avatar TheeBoneDaddy @theebonedaddy.bsky.social
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Delightfully, social media has given we "everymen" a one on one place to respond to them. If only their egos would allow them to recognize dissenters rather than sanctimoniously blocking them.

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Michael Clark's avatar Michael Clark @smintheus.bsky.social
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The pundits def think they'd have an outsized influence on selecting the eventual winner (and rejecting all the losers, which is at least as thrilling for them). In other news, they don't pay any real attention to all those ppl in their mentions saying "Fuck off already".

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Wren's avatar Wren @housewren.bsky.social
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And the media is delighted at the prospect of a horse race within a horse race.

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Sparky Griswold's avatar Sparky Griswold @sparkygriswold.bsky.social
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I've said it before, this is the third presidential electionin a row where we've heard "Ooh! We totally might be getting a brokered convention this year! Let's see what our panel thinks!"

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Daniel Drezner's avatar Daniel Drezner @dandrezner.bsky.social
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Someone should write a book about this phenomenon.

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Dannagal G. Young's avatar Dannagal G. Young @dannagal.bsky.social
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This is true but I think it’s more just about the drama of it all. They want to be titillated by the uncertainty and infighting. Human nature… at its worst.

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Intellectual Explorer 's avatar Intellectual Explorer @driftingthrough.bsky.social
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It's just better for advertising because it draws out more drama and conflict.

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wembley's avatar wembley @bananashirt.bsky.social
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also it's dramatic and would create news

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Mr Dr Bae's avatar Mr Dr Bae @dallas-taylor.bsky.social
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And pig ignorance of history? Like, 1968 wasn't that long ago.

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Al G Rhythm's avatar Al G Rhythm @algrhythm.bsky.social
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This should be the national conversation before, during, and after EVERY campaign event, whether it be a debate, rally, or convention:

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The Deuce Deducer's avatar The Deuce Deducer @marchanddcitron.bsky.social
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What if smart people made a meritocratic decision AND got to write and do tv appearances about it for four more months?

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Andy O's avatar Andy O @andyo.bsky.social
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The convention ends on August 22nd, 11 weeks before the election. That's too late to assemble a winning campaign. This is crazy talk.

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Bill Girard's avatar Bill Girard @billgirard.bsky.social
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In part, they also probably like that fact that it would make their jobs easier—a new and dramatic development to write about.

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