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Micah@rincewind.run |
in a country founded directly on "no kings, fuck kings in particular" it is beyond insulting that supposed "originalist" judges are taking seriously the proposition that the President is in fact a king
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mikaela
@mklamonsterland.bsky.social
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even though ive left the religion, it reminds me kind of of old Bible stories with the israelites asking god for a king only for every king they ever had being a huge evil prick after they got power. not exactly the same situation here but similar
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Matt Swift
@mswift.bsky.social
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Turns out the founders should have considered emphasizing “No Group of Unelected God Wizards” in addition to “No Kings”
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Dodecahedron
@dodechedrononon.bsky.social
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And yet... not surprising.
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Dickardo O'Johnson
@dickardo.bsky.social
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I always thought it was ironic that the fuck kings country only really supports monarchies in the Arab world and activley helps supress revolution in the name of democracy.
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SandaBlueDeux
@sandabluedeux.bsky.social
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Republicans have never been fans of democracy.
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Library Ogre
@libraryogre.bsky.social
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I am waiting for one of them to quote the Magna Carta in an argument saying that the President is not subject to the law. I know it is coming.
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Noah
@ncallaway.bsky.social
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Not just "beyond insulting", I think it's absolutely disqualifying for the position of Supreme Court Justice.
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rifka the unhinged fat activist
@rifka.bsky.social
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fuck this system of governance in particular
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@jennifervestal.bsky.social
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Me squawking this morning while listening “But NO ONE is above the law. That is LITERALLY the basis this country was founded on. -No seizing of land -No summarily executing people -No just seizing assets (Without due process. Those issues are another story for another day, tho.)
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@onealmp.bsky.social
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They’re paying too much attention to fsking Hamilton. Man had no problem with kings, just needed them to be elected first.
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Darrell CIS, He/Him
@geekydude.bsky.social
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They just didn't like the English king.
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Don Dechert
@dondechert.bsky.social
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It's the authoritarian core of modern conservatism, which is part of what motivates the conservative legal movement that placed 6 justices. And that movement that laid the intellectual scaffolding for reclaiming the monarchical powers somehow in the Const. for the President. See David Addington.
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Anastacya
@anastacya.bsky.social
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Exposes the hypocrisy in Originalism, since contextualizing that era would definitely prove that "hey, kings are bad, specifically" is the milieu. Ignoring that in favor of a specific outcome that is antithetical to the American experiment should be the death knell for originalism.
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Feisty Kinglet
@handle.invalid
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They are power-hungry to the point of blindness
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Dr Ieithydd (Carys)
@yrieithydd.bsky.social
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La loi c'est moi
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JohnW
@eleusis.bsky.social
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EXACTLY!!!! Why is there not more coverage of this point! The early Americans were escaping the landlord, peasant, oligarchy, feudal, systems of Europe, their ancestors would turn in their grave to think their descents are enabling the same yokes and chains
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D
@regular-joe.bsky.social
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There vote has nothing really to do with the subject (is a president a king). We know the answer. Their vote is to decide if the US Supreme Court is still valid.
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PeoriaBummer
@peoriabummer.bsky.social
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And why not? They see themselves as kings. Appointed for life and unaccountable.
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Greg Rank
@gregrank.us
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They aren’t real judges - they are political appointees
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Stay Spicy, kids ♾️
@howdidwegethere.bsky.social
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Welp, we all know how kings are made to leave office tho🤔
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Peter
@cgblue.bsky.social
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They are originalists only when it suits their political necessity
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@alexbenyon.bsky.social
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So if they go for it, can Biden just gun trump down in the street?
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Cacao Byproduct
@cacaobyproduct.bsky.social
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It’s not even ambiguous ! George Washington was offered kingship of the US iirc and he was like Hey y’all we said no kings that includes me
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Cinderella Mechanicus
@hroethgar.bsky.social
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Worse, to wind it back beyond Charles I. “The king is not above his own laws” was a revolution the British fought quite some time ago.
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Everything is Public Health
@everythingisph.bsky.social
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Regression
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Ricky Sixpillows
@fauxmosapien.bsky.social
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Ol' Stoneface would go spare
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Believelander Says Trans Rights
@says-rights.bsky.social
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Their "originalist" text is a religious one
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Robert
@roberts-brain.bsky.social
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That's crazy talk him getting immunity then he could have his secret service kill anyone he wants. It's a double edged sword I don't think trump thought, immunity would go to Biden too and he could get trump before he tries on him. He could do it to his whole family and get away with it.
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Ian Bowers
@iggdawg.bsky.social
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Originalism is the practice of declaring the constitution says whatever you say it says.
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Kingfisher & Wombat
@tkingfisher.com
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@vanishingpt7.bsky.social
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Money is king…that is what they are saying
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Amalthea 🏳️⚧️
@amaltheagaskey.bsky.social
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The founders are always used as a retroactive justification. An originalist is someone who says my beliefs on government are correct, therefore it’s what the forefathers meant when the my wrote the constitution.
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Carl Nyberg
@carlnyberg312.bsky.social
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Maybe liberals should criticize their media buddies for pretending "originalism" was a good faith legal theory.
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ᜱЄ®ᙏ𝐼Ṇ
@blucowdawg.bsky.social
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…if you meet the conservative along the road… do what makes you happy…
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Donny
@tehdon.bsky.social
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Their original intent was obviously meet the right guy and king him. All the other stuff was just because.
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Keith Ng
@keithng.bsky.social
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It's only a king if it's from the region of Francia otherwise it's just a sparkling hereditary absolute autocrat
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amdiamanti
@amdiamanti.bsky.social
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No kings except kings that are One Of Us.
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Atheistic Snail
@atheisticsnail.bsky.social
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We should only have the dab king fuck scotus
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tbd
@tumescentnumpty.bsky.social
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you should submit this as an amicus brief
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Warcabbit
@warcabbitmwm.bsky.social
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I feel like they need remedial civics. Start with this.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvOZ...
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eyebrows mulligan
@fripperskitter.bsky.social
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🙃
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsi...
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ramza saddiq
@heartgold.xyz
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sometimes I regret getting a law degree, and sometimes I regret getting a law degree a lot
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@zendarva.bsky.social
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This is everything on the subject right here.
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Birchly
@birchly.bsky.social
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Sure it seems insulting, but that's only because they despise us
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H.M. Stiller
@hmstiller.bsky.social
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We Should All Be (specifically small-r) republicans
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Connor Lynch
@connorlynch.bsky.social
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In fairness almost all of the grievances were things more fairly attributable to parliament
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Blake Mitchell
@blake.bsky.social
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And running around screaming “1776! 1776!”
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Jessica
@wheneverfrenetic.bsky.social
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I’m still stuck on the Diet Coke button
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@flatline42.bsky.social
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It's surreal that the music I'm listening to this morning feels topical again: "So beware of their banners and the general's lies There's no glory for the poor man, no glittering prize For we gave all we had, now our homes they fall down And I cry out "Republic" and allegiance to no crown"
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Bruce Cullen
@bacullenyyc.bsky.social
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King shit of turd mountain is as close as he gets.
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Creative Goddess Goods
@creativegoddess.bsky.social
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OMG....I know, right?? I was screaming in my car as I was listening. What the hell is happening??
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Codhisattva
@codhisattva.bsky.social
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Won’t this give the VP an enormous incentive to push the president out a window? I mean like what VP wouldn’t be tempted?
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Ivan Monteiro
@ivanmonteiro.bsky.social
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Isn't the whole idea of the infallibility of the founders — those "amazing", future-proofed dudes steampunking around the Potomac — something akin to "the king is God and can't be wrong"? Ultimately, they (scotus) are all monarchists in disguise, me thinks.
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Verity Vagary
@mgcomics.bsky.social
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I think the founders just wanted to be kings themselves. To own vast estates of land they stole, have it worked by people they own. All of it justified by the church. Little micro-kings. Sounds cute, but it wasn't.
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The Code to Hell is paved with good intentions.
@the-code-to-hell.bsky.social
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A pre Magna Carta King or a French King at that. The Supremes must know the inevitable conclusion to that form of governance. I’m not entirely opposed where the principals of this story are concerned.
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Father John Chungus
@sorocchungus.bsky.social
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They’re partisan hacks. Simple as that.
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Dr Joanne Williams
@jowilliams.bsky.social
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Hum, was about to say something smug about British royalty getting done for driving offences, but there's some broken stuff here really quite recently. www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024...
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Jam Max
@butlisten.bsky.social
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It's a fact that in the 1700s, most of the world loved kings
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Dan Davis
@bindlestaff.bsky.social
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This has always been about the arrogant dismissal of the rule of law by those who have been entrusted with the power to uphold it but who enjoy finding the means to be exempted from it. The conservative justices all but yelled aloud today “L'État, c'est moi!”
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J. A. Baldwin
@jocetta.bsky.social
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"Nae king! Nae quin! Nae laird! Nae master! We willna' be fooled again!" Kick 'em in the shins, knock 'em over, and let's get to work.
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Caleb-Poet
@calebumbo.bsky.social
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The one time people would be right about George Washington rolling in his grave.
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Marguerite
@candyworks.bsky.social
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Speaking of kings - if this turd gets a second term, the Supreme Court will not be treated with the idiotic deference we see from this feckless administration. The minute they issue a ruling that tRump doesn’t like we’ll hear about why it’s actually voluntary to abide by their rulings. Which it is.
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jtadetroit.bsky.social 🇵🇸 🇺🇦
@jtadetroit.bsky.social
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Our modern-day nobles supporting their king
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AprilJonFan 🇺🇦
@apriljonfan.bsky.social
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I can't.
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marimo
@roundmoss.bsky.social
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I mean maybe we should repeat what they did last time we had a king
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Mr Dr Bae
@dallas-taylor.bsky.social
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The Republican President. Pretty sure Joe Biden gets a different set of rules.
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@heikofennec.bsky.social
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The bainwashed :(
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Just Josh
@jmann500.bsky.social
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Gondor needs no king
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As A Dog-man ☭
@scooterdavis.bsky.social
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The Counter Revolution won after Reconstruction wasn't followed through. Liberals call us bloody-minded, but this is what you reap when you spare the kulaks.
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Jeremy Muchemi
@hellyeahjeremy.bsky.social
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Hi guys! Do you mind sharing this? bsky.app/profile/hell...
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@charlerk.bsky.social
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Bill Barr did a whole speech about how "actually the founders were scared of parliament and the constitution exists to protect presidents from the wicked Congress"
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sol
@evan.sucks
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I’m not convinced they don’t all go back to their chambers and ask their law clerks “what’s the most insulting and damaging opinion we could hand down? Ok, cool let’s go with that”
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Sewercroc / Winterowl
@sewercroc.bsky.social
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Easy to explain. "originalist" never has meant anything other than "return to the middle ages". A civilized society would treat those people like one would treat people in those ages, drawing & quartering for all the division they sow.
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Van Weasel 🔥 Summer Hater Arc 🔥
@vanweezer.bsky.social
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I look forward to hearing the serious and important legal logic for why this won't apply to Democrat presidents
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Serenity Now!
@cpo10za.bsky.social
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Also needs to be said repeatedly: *These conservative SCOTUS Justices are only making “pro-king” arguments for their party’s president* No chance they’d even take this case if it was Biden arguing that presidents get full immunity. They’re unserious, cynical people, acting in partisan bad faith.
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Micah
@rincewind.run
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like I'm sorry these people are the ones who spend all their time talking about how the inviolable intent of the founders is the only thing that matters there aren't a lot of things that the founders agreed on but "fuck kings" was about as close a consensus position as you could find!
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Mark Hennessy-Barrett
@markhb.bsky.social
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When power-hungry scum get together.
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Craven Joe
@iamjoseph.bsky.social
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I'm actually pretty sure it was founded on "YOU don't tell ME what to do" Obviously the founders were cool with telling others what to do
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Jenny Morber
@jrmorber.bsky.social
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Disgustingly offensive that this is even being debated right now.
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Hooligan
@hooliganstudios.bsky.social
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This country was literally founded to get away from king rule. SCROTUS is lost to zealotry and trump-fellation. The only remedy is stacking the court to at least 13, while opening investigations into Thomas and Rapey-Kav (at the very least)
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Bolton's stache
@boltons-stache.bsky.social
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umm.. one slight quibble here - they're saying the President is allowed to be a king as long as he's a Republican. I think we can all agree they'd be approaching this case very differently if a Dem president was before them (apologies if this point already made above & I overlooked it).
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off-brandon
@dropkick.bsky.social
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judges that were personally appointed by the king. classic democracy
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xeneth.design
@xeneth.bsky.social
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You say it's founded on that principle, but in practice it takes surprisingly few generations to forget such things... Really striking to hear an entire culture founded by immigrants turn into "we gotta keep immigrants outta here!" I guess that's the difference between refugees and colonizers.
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Jade Cargill stan account 🍉🇺🇦🇺🇸
@adaytaramember.bsky.social
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Constitutional scholarship in the later half of the century is going to be a trip
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Not myself yet, but working on it
@nimelennar.bsky.social
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A reminder that the Roman Republic was founded directly on "no kings, fuck kings in particular," with Julius Caesar refusing a crown, saying "I am not king, I am Caesar." So they named him "dictator for life" instead, and his successors took absolute monarchical power as "Caesar" rather than "king."
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Tommy
@tommyg.bsky.social
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They are Royalists. This shitty stain has been with us since the founding, and you find it in exactly the fetid cesspools you'd expect, including most but thankfully not all of the founders.
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Chuck Chuck Bo Buck
@korgx3.bsky.social
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Trump always makes me think of the parable of the Golden Calf. Not just because of his skin tone, but also in that so many idiots are so smitten with him that I also want to smash the Rule of Law and stick the remnants in my face-melting machine where no one can get at it.
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Unbreakable Peter
@loki1001.bsky.social
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I saw someone else say it, but they are absolutely going to craft the world's finest distinction to disallow prosecution of Trump while still allowing prosecution of Biden.
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T.A. Montgomery
@janitor743.bsky.social
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We are entering the Assassin’s Creed III DLC.
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Davis
@davis.social
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There are many things I would disagree with from the founders of the country, and the “no kings” rule is not one of them.
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@moehawk.bsky.social
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Unfortunately the country is now full of wannabe Kings!
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Lizardguy64
@lizardguy64.bsky.social
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They say that because they want their guy in power.
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