Regarding the TikTok bill: I'm still reviewing it. I have serious concerns about any app that gives the Chinese government access to Americans' private data. But I'll also say this: history teaches us that when lawmakers rush to legislate on tech and social media, mistakes get made.
Haven't all these guys already stolen (or Hoovered) all our data anyway? Seems like control of the algorithm is the more critical problem. And that pertains to other platforms as well.
Congress has really failed us on all of this.
Like on so much else, frankly.
Please don't lose on this issue to fuckin Donald trump of all people. Private data needs regulation here in the states. one of the largest social media platforms but a majority of our satellites are in the hands of a ketamine addled right wing oligarch. We got our own backyard to worry about
When you have Steve Mnuchin vying to purchase it, the voters can plainly see that this has nothing at all to do with privacy. Please make sure that bill goes nowhere. It is very obvious why this bill is being introduced and it is not a good look to support it. Your voters are fed up.
We need a privacy law that keeps tech companies from collecting our data, not a law that makes sure that only US companies can do it. Stop with the TikTok nonsense and switch to something that actually protects us.
I don't understand why your colleagues are rushing to ban TikTok, instead of listening to you.
Yet they're doing nothing to regulate massive data theft by AI companies, including the sale of data to them by companies like DocuSign. You guys are either behind the curve or taking a hammer to things.
The Chinese don't need to go to the trouble of setting up a social media network to get the private data of Americans. They can just buy the data wholesale from any of the dozens of data brokers that will sell your data to anyone willing to pay.
Is it even legal to do this, won't there be a supreme court review at some point? They themselves have said they should not be involved with tech decisions. It just seems like jingoistic protectionism. Set laws that protect user privacy and country of origin will be a moot point.
How about a basic privacy bill that affects all social media instead of a bill cherry picking one company. We need rights over our own data and our children’s data.
Perhaps the goal should be to regulate information sharing and data gathering for all companies, rather than targeting a single company in a wave of sinophobia, and which also happens to be a platform where most users are young and on the left
TikTok should not be singled out. There are a lot of social media sites collecting info on Americans, so either we make one for all of them or none should be targeted. The Senate should find a way to make changes that benefit all Americans. Especially, the business folks who use it to make money.
Then craft something that protects my data from US corporations as well, as we can prove that some of them have aided and abetted genocide. Til then, stop censoring one of the few places showing us what the US is doing in Palestine.
BTW This racist & fascist attempt to ban a harmless app is going to cost millions of Americans loss in revenue as loads of people use TikTok & TikTok Shop to make ends meet. But congress doesn't give a 💩 about poor people.
We all know it's NOT about privacy as it's been proven time & again that TikTok is NOT violating our privacy but AMERICAN OWNED apps like Facebook ARE! It's about congress wanting to raise their Meta stock & being racist. DO NOT BAN TIKTOK!
You should have serious concerns about any corporation that collects Americans' personal data. Those corporations will sell that data to China directly, or through a shell corporation.
It comes across as hypocritical to focus on TikTok (a platform that allows American people to have free & open conversations) and not to focus on Temu (a company KNOWN to steal American data & that uses highly unethical business practices)
Do you have similar concerns over united states companies having access to americans private data. What about the american government. I am way more concerned with what the police in my city do with my data than a pencil pusher in china
So we know now that instead of China accessing our data right wing billionaires like Mnuchin will have access to our data. This stinks to high heaven. Vote NO.
I don't doubt that there are issues. I doubt that those issues are not just as prevalent if not moreso on apps run by twitter and meta. And question who is financially lobbying for this rushed execution.
Just gonna give my two cents Senator: hypothetically, if TikTok does give the CCP data from Americans, what's gonna stop them from making TikTok 2?
Stop focusing on one app, and focus on the actual security of American's data. This will check TikTok, as well as Facebook, X, and Instagram.
Senator, this bill is about legislating one single social media app- rather than genuinely resolving the privacy and data abuses that many companies perpetrate (including American companies like Facebook, Google, Amazon, Twitter). Young voters LOVE Tiktok; don’t throw them away this cycle.
Every other entity on earth has access to my data. Why shouldn't the Chinese government? They will buy it on the market anyway because it's all for sale. There are no good laws actually protecting our data from anyone.
All the socials do this, so the courts will probably declare this unconstitutional right off the bat.
Also a tiktok post hasn't done a school shooting. Focus on what's killing us before messing with this stupidity.
Oh Yes? like letting TikTok be sold to a group of Sick Trump Sycophants? Thats a huge mistake.
We allready have FOX, Newsmax, OAN, Aaron Rodgers, Twitter, Steve Bannon's podcast for distributing Pro Trump Propaganda to MAGA cult members. Do we really need another platform to do more damage?
Don't vote yes. Don't be a red scare xenophobe. Don't vote yes because AIPAC wants it. Don't be a hypocrite about data security, we know it's a bullshit excuse.
ohhhhh nooo the chinese can see that i watched that sea shanty shit 5,000 times. maybe focus on stopping wannabe fascist shitbags from taking over the country from within instead?
That last sentence is more than enough reason to vote no and not be undecided about it? Like "Boy we sure do mess up when we rush in but idk I might still vote yes" is absolute nonsense
Oh just shut up! You Folks in Congress are the ones Beholden to AIPAC and ADL, This is nothing more than crushing American's First Amendment Rights all to Protect Israel and their Genocide from honest criticism.
The Chinese government can already buy any data they want because we don't have data privacy laws. TikTok is not the problem, and it would only make sense to write legislation specific to TikTok if they were violating data privacy laws, which we don't have. Please give us GDPR instead
How about showing the same concern for Americans private data when when it comes to any nation, even our own. Protect Americans from American corporations, it's the least you could do.
kind of a dumbass thing to do to worry about privacy when the bad actors are Chinese and let the bad actors ruin your fucking life while doing nothing about privacy if they're American
If TikTok should be banned just for being connected to China, let me tell you about a once-important social networking site that got purchased at great expense by a drugged-out megalomaniac in the midst of a mid-life crisis...
start with the bill is not about chinese access to american private data, otherwise it would include other apps like shein, dhgate, alibaba, and aliexpress, which have a LOT more access to private data than tiktok does. the bill is about the chinese govt having access to influence americans via TT.
That's right, I say keep the data breaches confined to those that enrich people like Steve Mnuchin and the Saudis, the way the Founders intended! Thank goodness all other social media platforms are spotless and beyond reproach.
Your right that rushing to pass laws leads to gaps or oversights or unintended consequences. But Senator, with all due respect, don't weasel out by using passive voice; mistakes don't get made on their own. It's easy to shift blame by saying "mistakes were made" rather than "we made mistakes."
Why not just ban the sort of data collection wholesale? It’s a massive invasion of user privacy and only serves to enrich the people who sell advertising and user data.
A *comprehensive* industry-wide reform bill, with proper enforcement (i.e., jailing of executives for violations), would be a step toward solving the massive privacy problem.
But that isn't the bill the oligarchs have purchased. They just want to buy TikTok.
Thank you Ron. This is a reasonable take. What I'd really like to see is it brought under US control and then passing a widespread, sensible online privacy bill that can bind TikTok and all other platforms to protect Americans and their data.
The Majority Leaders kids have kush jobs at Facebook and Amazon. Chuck Schumer must recuse himself. No different than the conflict of interests on the Supreme Court.
The way to address this is to address data privacy in full and not this hodge podge way of banning apps.
This issue is not limited to Tiktok; it's an issue relevant to all companies that handle private data and run algorithms.
I would trust you to write something more universal and better. And I wished it was your privacy legislation that GOP walked out on you on 3-4 years ago.
I mean, Facebook has a known history of not giving a fig about anyone's privacy, of working with foreign governments looking to influence Americans, and of enabling the proliferation of scams that harm users. Twitter is owned by a drug addled security risk. Are we going to shut them all down?
What is the point of this bill other than naked protectionism?
If you want to ACTUALLY do something then start aiming for laws that support general data protections and stop allowing companies to literally sell our data for a pittance.
Considering they already but everything they want from data brokers picking out info off DOMESTIC websites, I'm more concerned about why our govt is so interested in the platform.
Our data needs to be protected from ALL social media companies. As brutal as it is, you need to consider that if Trump wins, American tech companies will pose a far greater threat to our safety and privacy.
It’s been eight years since the EU passed the GDPR. California passed the CCPA six years ago. It wouldn’t be a “rush”, digital privacy law isn’t new.
That’s what needs to happen: comprehensive privacy law protecting consumer data. not one-off threats of legislation targeting specific phone apps.
Just carrying a phone around with you is worse than anything TikTok can do. They know where you go, what stores you shop at, any conversation you have regarding your purchases. If you use a rewards card at a store, same thing. They all sell your data and who knows who gets it. Tip of the iceberg.
We should have broader privacy protections from both companies and governments. I think focusing on just one app is naive, since it doesn't solve the broader issue in anyway.
It'll just happen again.
If data protection is the concern, there are larger efforts around there that should apply to ANY company operating in the US. If algorithmic push is the issue, then things like YouTube promoting far-right content and Twitter pushing white nationalist content should be part of the conversation too.
What insures the Chinese government can't just purchase - directly or through intermediary - all the private data that is already collected and sold as a matter of course by Google, Amazon, Meta, etc?
A new privacy law would be a good idea but not this thing that only singles out one company. Let's not forget Facebook and Cambridge Analytica, which impacted a national election.
This bill is the equivalent of taking your shoes off at the airport. Do something about the data brokers that can do whatever they want with our data instead.
Senator: what we need is comprehensive data privacy regulation like the GDPR in the EU. Targeting an individual company because of foreign ownership smacks of national chauvinism and will inevitably make life worse for users of these platforms. Please listen to your constituents: nobody wants this.
🗣️THEN PASS A PRIVACY AND DATA PROTECTION ACT THAT ACTUALLY PROTECTS US FROM ALL THE NEFARIOUS DATA BROKERING APPS (Twitter, OpenAI, Meta, Temu, Amazon, the calls are coming from inside the house, and targeting TikTok is an obvious ploy to control information during an election year)
Kill this bill.
It’s not about the safety of the people. It’s about controlling what information we have access to.
It’s censorship. And if it’s not tiktok, it’s something else. Kill the bill now.
For a living, I am a network security engineer. As a tech guy, I have opinions on this issue. I have to say, I appreciate your approach to digital privacy and tech legislation in general. You're better at it than the rest of your colleagues.
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I appreciate that you're at least aware that the utter speed at which the House moved for this and not a single other bill that actually supports American life is obscene.
do not participate in the censorship of US citizens. Multinational corporations have access to our data all day every day and the US government cooperates with them to mine our data for profit. Legislate that
Yall, halc of you dont even know how to use Google docks
Your all so old
You wanna really protect your people from shit like this? GET YONGER PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND HOW THIS ALL REALLY WORKS TO TALK ABOUT IT, THEN YOU ALL COULD REST EASY
Instead yall are just xenophobic and decrepit
I was curious about your thoughts. I’m aware this issue isn’t so black and white and I like your statement. I hope this can move forward to better protecting us while not handing Trump another way to manipulate the uninformed into siding with his newly changed take on it. Best of luck.
How about a bill protecting Americans' private data instead?
Can't be sold without Opt-In agreement, users fairly compensated for the data instead of brokers, time limits for how long data is "good" before it must be expunged?
Please consider that people who are here from China use it to stay connected with their family at home because other means are blocked off.
I am uncomfortable with data brokers in general- not just from China, but domestically as well. They are effectively stalkers and need serious crackdowns.
It’s better to affirm personal data privacy that applies universally rather than playing whack-a-mole on an app by app basis. Going after TikTok today means we’ll be going after another app in a few months’ time.
'Do Nothing' is the congressional way. Letting the Perfect be the enemy of the Good bill. Dems are dirty as R's on letting US companies decimate privacy while DOING NOTHING. Ask yourself why china bans ours.
I don't care if the Chinese government has my private data - all of the people positioned to take advantage of me are domestic! Instagram collects all of the same information that TikTok does, but THEY use it in a way that makes my life materially worse!