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Jason's avatar Jason @jasonkurian.dev
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Until batteries or whatever other energy storage becomes lighter (and more cost effective), I want to see cars which use electric motors + range extender like the Mazda MX30 R-EV (or Chevrolet Volt or Fisker Karma… 🙃)

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Ake Jansson's avatar Ake Jansson @akejan.bsky.social
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Hur media pratar om energi-omställningen

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Wendell B's avatar Wendell B @wndlb.bsky.social
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Oh, and quieter. They gotta fake that Lake Pipes sound. Pushed hard, the EVs have a medium-pitch whine.

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Shlap Wobbachu ✝️'s avatar Shlap Wobbachu ✝️ @wobbachu.bsky.social
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I mainly just wish I had the money to buy ANY car right now qwq Plus, there's practically no electric refill stations in my town.

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Joel Pelletier 🍩's avatar Joel Pelletier 🍩 @joelpelletier.bsky.social
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Have you seriously not experienced the torque on an electric engine?

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cdpositive 's avatar cdpositive @cdpositive.bsky.social
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& less maintenance/mess, less noise, less heat.... Remember why we converted from horses to cars? Looks kinda like the same reasons, doesn't it? 🤔

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Adso's avatar Adso @scasey.bsky.social
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Also electric cars are bottoming out on price right now. Ionic 5s that sold for 50k are under 30k a year old right now.

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Renewed Rebecca's avatar Renewed Rebecca @renewedrebecca.bsky.social
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Really the only thing a gasoline engine has over an electric motor is how quickly you can refuel. When/if we get to the point where you can recharge to 350 miles of range in 10 minutes, it's pretty much over for gasoline.

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Jason Birzer's avatar Jason Birzer @thelongshot2112.bsky.social
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Electric motors are great. The issues are everything around it. Cars cost at least twice as much. Environmental issues with batteries (Tho, that can change), charging network inconsistencies. Also, I don't live somewhere where I can plug one in at home. It is why I still see a future for ICE cars.

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Nikole 's avatar Nikole @picnik.bsky.social
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Fossil fuels are DEAD! 💚

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TK Wolf's avatar TK Wolf @tk-wolf.bsky.social
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The downside of electric motors is that they're more quiet than gas, so it's difficult to disturb your neighbors.

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Nyanbinary: Jamie Sharp's avatar Nyanbinary: Jamie Sharp @jamiesharp.bsky.social
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I’d take a gas powered car in freezing temperatures

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Aldis Lusis's avatar Aldis Lusis @novapopsicle.bsky.social
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On the other hand there's trillions of dollars of interests losing their stranglehold on gas and oil resources... Probably looking to buy up all the fresh water

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The only downside to electric motors is that they require giant heavy batteries. I think those fancy Rivian SUVs are like 3 tons. That's gonna obliterate anything it hits.

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🌏🐶🦕🥳 Vegetable Gremlin ⍼​👻🥦💥🏠♫'s avatar 🌏🐶🦕🥳 Vegetable Gremlin ⍼​👻🥦💥🏠♫ @vegetablegremlin.bsky.social
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come on man

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's avatar @slappylongballs.bsky.social
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But Orange Foolius says electric cars are terrible and will go the way the dinosaur. Chexmix, libulardos.

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Shiboof's avatar Shiboof @oldpostie.bsky.social
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Um, power is fine on many electric cars. Just saying.

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Ton Aarts's avatar Ton Aarts @tonaarts.bsky.social
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Actually, humans (and every animal for the last ~500 million years) have been running on hydrocarbon fuel. Not electricity Hint: the weight of your today one EV battery in fossil fuel would get you up to ~12,000 km range. (7,800 miles) in my Audi (Which has a 279 km/h - 173 mph top speed)

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But once a electric car gets into an accident they are considered total. There are no mechanics to repair them. AND, when they catch fire the firemen won't get near them because of the MULTIPLE explosions from the batteries, gas doesn't do that.

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Kusozoku's avatar Kusozoku @kusozoku.bsky.social
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Dude’s gonna cause a war

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Sean Murphy's avatar Sean Murphy @dorght.bsky.social
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Can't wait until he gets an electric cargo bike and starts wondering if he needs a car at all anymore.

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Moderately Grouchy's avatar Moderately Grouchy @moderately-grouchy.bsky.social
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Also you can charge an electric vehicle with a solar panel in the middle of nowhere in 1-2 weeks

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What about (right!) car batteries utilisation?

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Excalibur Discount Legal Services's avatar Excalibur Discount Legal Services @kevychristian.bsky.social
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I likes my cheap ass shit

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pyxl-8's avatar pyxl-8 @pyxl-8.com
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I am so sorry to see how the rest of your day is going to pan out

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Username Not Found's avatar Username Not Found @usernamenotfound.bsky.social
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Generating the electricity is the trick.

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Dan Dragomir NAFO Fanclub 💪 🇺🇦🇷🇴's avatar Dan Dragomir NAFO Fanclub 💪 🇺🇦🇷🇴 @dandragomir.bsky.social
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Yes, but without batteries LOL

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FizzBuzz3000's avatar FizzBuzz3000 @fizzbuzz.bsky.social
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You're right until you realize that ICE vehicles get the benefit of extremely good energy density that works well at a fairly wide range of temps, and doesn't combust 5 times from a crash. I want personal EVs to be good, but bikes and public transit are better.

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eatyourglory's avatar eatyourglory @eatyourglory.bsky.social
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I don’t get it.

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Jim is still celebrating Christmas's avatar Jim is still celebrating Christmas @bardinbrief.bsky.social
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I am hoping that by the time my 2008 Civic finally dies, I'll be able to afford an EV and have a garage to charge it in

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chadzia dax 🖖🏻 😷 🔞's avatar chadzia dax 🖖🏻 😷 🔞 @m00psy.bsky.social
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why did i read this in @techconnectify.bsky.social ‘s voice lol

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Can Baysal's avatar Can Baysal @pegdhcp.bsky.social
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Although we had not a hydrocarbon based computer so comparison is not obvious, but I am yet to have a car which changing gas tank would cost a serious percentage of car price. For that matter, in last fifty years, out of lots of cars in my family only one needed to have some patchwork for the tank..

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Lord Jubalon Flux's avatar Lord Jubalon Flux @lordjubalonflux.bsky.social
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Now for fully electric electricity generating power stations; close that loop

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Anatoly Cherdanko's avatar Anatoly Cherdanko @analdank.bsky.social
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Furthermore electric motors can be powered by overhead power lines, thus obviating the need for expensive lithium batteries

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I’ll put my 220 HP electric car up against any gas powered car off the line. All of my horses are in play the second I put my foot down. No need to wait for the engine to torque up to full power. Loved the look on the Vette driver’s face who tried me at the light,a few weeks back!

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tripsnek's avatar tripsnek @daniel2e.bsky.social
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Which neglects to mention that on the other other hand they require far less maintenance.

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MikeyT00's avatar MikeyT00 @devilmikey.bsky.social
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In Canada, it makes sense in cities but Canada is a huge place and once you're outside of cities the charge stations aren't nearly plentiful enough for Canada road trip driving. I mean you probably could but you'd have to meticulously plan your route ahead of time. Especially out west.

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Randall is crossing stream with the NYT Pitchbot!

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cornelius75.bsky.social's avatar cornelius75.bsky.social @cornelius75.bsky.social
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Hydrogen fuel cell wins*

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Innocent🕷Abroad's avatar Innocent🕷Abroad @jjgass.bsky.social
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Gas motors, paired with manual transmissions, are cooler & more fun As a basis for policy, or even an individual purchasing decision, I'm not sure that counts for much

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Arkhar's avatar Arkhar @arkhar.bsky.social
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Let me know when they build a battery with the same energy density as gasoline and I will sign up immediately.

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JThomasAlbert's avatar JThomasAlbert @jthomasalbert.bsky.social
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We need electric buses and trains and pedestrian-friendly cities designed around mass transit instead of personal vehicles.

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Everything I hate about electric cars is what I hate about modern iPhones and smartphones. If they were more like petrol cars in construction - they might be better. Even PC's. I've patched and swapped so many random parts on my car to keep it running.

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Gluten-free Seitan's avatar Gluten-free Seitan @davidjorgonson.bsky.social
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But electric motors are also lighter, simpler, and easier to maintain, so it's impossible to say if they are better or worse

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crucialwax's avatar crucialwax @crucialwax.com
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But also, electric motors have very high starting torque, so it’s hard to say which is better.

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Call Me Nemo's avatar Call Me Nemo @anomalistic.bsky.social
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The way enslaved cobalt miners in the DRC who provide the materials for these batteries are rarely considered in these conversations is horrifying. We can't justify "clean" energy when it's causing human rights violations beyond imagining.
www.npr.org/sections/goa...

www.amnesty.org/en/latest/ne...

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Fustbariclation's avatar Fustbariclation @fustbariclation.bsky.social
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If the gas is hydrogen, and you solve the storage problem, it seems ideal.

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Keith of the Sea's avatar Keith of the Sea @rhymeswithteeth.bsky.social
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The "more powerful" is causing more crashes, and the results of those crashes are worse because electric cars weigh significantly more than gas powerd cars. The extra weight also causes more damage to the roads If efficiency is important, bike your short trips

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Mungo5's avatar Mungo5 @mungo5.bsky.social
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But on the other hand, combustion engines are more complex and prone to breakdown, with many more service parts.

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And lower maintenance.

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andwhyisit's avatar andwhyisit @andwhyisit.bugsiteguardian.com
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My concern is battery lifespan and the cost to replace it.

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Fichusalon's avatar Fichusalon @fichusalon.bsky.social
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Génial !

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Emililly🏳️‍⚧️🚴‍♀️🏍️ 🚗's avatar Emililly🏳️‍⚧️🚴‍♀️🏍️ 🚗 @emililly.bsky.social
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Battery degradation is my main concern, not the motors themselves. I can’t afford new and probably never will, my current car is a 2007 and cost me ~$1,750. Will used EVs of that age be economically viable for people like me?

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Captain stuffmcbluer (Angry Block Era)'s avatar Captain stuffmcbluer (Angry Block Era) @stuffmcbluer.bsky.social
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@techconnectify.bsky.social I had to think of you

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Y2KNW's avatar Y2KNW @y2knw.bsky.social
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"A gasoline engine will drive all day at -45C; on the other hand, a gasoline engine will also make you don't freeze to death you hit the ditch during a blizzard. It's hard to say."

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Hartmut Wauer's avatar Hartmut Wauer @dragonskeep.bsky.social
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It‘s really hard …..

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Flopsie's avatar Flopsie @flopsie.bsky.social
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The Achilles heel of electric is that batteries are so expensive, and environmentally problematic. Not just cars, but solar for the home has the same problem.

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Jady, but seriously.'s avatar Jady, but seriously. @rabid-child.bsky.social
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Can you roll coal on a normie with your electric motor? Check and mate, lib.

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Vincent's avatar Vincent @vincent2023.bsky.social
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I love the idea of electric cars, but the terrible situation with charging kills it. It doesn’t take but 10 minutes to fill up and get in and out of a gas station.

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Word says hello's avatar Word says hello @worldsayshi.bsky.social
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Gas engines are more complicated so more jobs in the supply lines!

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Tim Park's avatar Tim Park @timpark.bsky.social
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And furthermore, require no trips to the energy station for day to day usage.

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🦉's avatar 🦉 @smallmutuals.bsky.social
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The pro of a gas motor is that it can be recharged very quickly, is much lighter, and requires no rare metals But both power dangerous machines that destroy cities and should be outlawed

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The issue we need to address immediately is that our current grid infrastructure does not lend itself to continuous duty or sustained electrical loads. Most homes in the US and their infrastructure were designed for a continuous demand of 40-60 amps. This is SEVERELY undersized for an electric home

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