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David Rolfe@dorolfe.bsky.social |
Is this a right???
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Orchestructive
@orchestructive.bsky.social
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For rich white people who were never used to have to hear other's thoughts on what they say, it probably felt like one.
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Dallas Swoager
@untenablewhale.bsky.social
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It's almost as if there was a time when people recognized that what they were about to say was indeed shameful and they would be shunned if they said it, so they were at least bright enough to keep their mouth shut.
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Gemini
@gemdrgn.bsky.social
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gotta love an embarassing op-ed by "the editorial board" It really inspires confidence when nobody at all wants their name on the thing
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@spudmonkey.bsky.social
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No
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@LuLuRoche
@luluroche.bsky.social
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What a pile of crap.
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@ramsandhoosiers.bsky.social
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Nope
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Gwen C. Katz
@gwenckatz.bsky.social
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...What about the right to voice your opinions without getting your ass beat by riot cops?
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Warren Terra
@warrenterra.bsky.social
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Maybe fifteen years ago some wag (possibly at the blog Balloon Juice) pointed out that this was basically Sarah Palin's conception of The First Amendment. It's an interpretation that's really been catching on, Sarah Palin is clearly underrated as a Constitutional Scholar.
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Yastreblyansky
@yastreblyansky.bsky.social
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No. No. No. No. No. If [fill in name] is being an asshole, you are totally entitled to say he's an asshole. Indeed, you can say it if you're wrong. The Times keeps suggesting that only assholes are entitled to free speech rights. It's interesting to speculate on why they think that's so important.
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David Bailey
@drgdave.bsky.social
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What a bunch of fuckin' whiners.
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Rotanen ♾️
@rotanen.bsky.social
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No joke, this is literally the reason John Wilkes Booth shot Lincoln. He didn't own slaves, but he was upset that he couldn't share his pro-slavery opinions in polite company anymore.
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Ian Elliott (he/they)🤘🌈🎲
@thatianeliott.bsky.social
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Nope, never has been, and the people who screech about it are the worst about shaming those they disagree with.
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@patrickin.bsky.social
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Jack Dorsey is the NYT Editorial Board?
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Hannah Marcley
@hannahmarcley.bsky.social
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Oooo pick me pick me! 🙋no.
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Cuntace Owens
@duaadiddy.bsky.social
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Hahaha but fugly right-wing bitches get to totally shame us, right? Fuck the entire NYT, head to taint
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John Stehlin
@jstehlin.bsky.social
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It’s getting to where a New York Times op-ed columnist with nothing whatsoever to say can’t marry an employee who is decades his junior without the censorious hordes of normal people believing him to be a creep.
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@spike29.bsky.social
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Only for fucking morons.
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Thomas 🚀 SFF180
@sff180.bsky.social
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No one says this stuff unless they’re mad they can’t be a bigot on Facebook without someone emailing screenshots to their employer.
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James "half-a-tonne" Dominguez
@jamesjdominguez.bsky.social
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Nope, this is a wrong.
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Voice from the Crowd
@voicefromcrowd.bsky.social
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Coming from the NYT's editorial board... it makes sense. Their idea of journalism is letting your coverage and opinions be skewed by petty feuds. And, they fully slant their coverage to one side. Since that's their idea of "honest journalism", what else should we expect?
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Ryan Bonick
@ryanbonick.com
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DBdant
@dbdant.bsky.social
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Societal shunning is a peaceful means of protecting society from those who selfishly seek to destroy it. Similar to Ostracism (from the Greek word ostrakismos) was used by ancient Athenians when citizens who posed a threat to their society were banished from Athens for 10 years.
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Ryan
@pearcer.bsky.social
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I've never been invited to dinner or cocktails with any members of the times editorial board, and that's a violation of my right to free speech
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Richard Heppner (see also id. @ 🐘, 🧵, ❎)
@rlheppner.bsky.social
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r
@recombobulating.bsky.social
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People who have enjoyed that status previously believe it is. And there's a depressing amount of academic work backing up the idea.
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Kelladon
@kelladon.bsky.social
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US citizens have a right to say whatever they want, provided it's not inciting/threatening bodily harm, is not slanderous, or otherwise considered to be unprotected speech. Keep in mind this protects US citizens from THE GOVERNMENT. You are still subject to the social rules of US culture.
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WildGorillaMan
@wildgorillaman.bsky.social
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I'm a Canadian and I understand your 1st Amendment rights better than these guys.
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Tim Salmon
@canotuna.bsky.social
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It’s absurd enough as it is but it’s really saying might is right the people should be silent
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Swiftie Trashpanda
@socaltrashpanda.bsky.social
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"Without fear of being shunned or shamed". I mean, if we wanna play it like that, Freedom of speech doesn't mean that you're legally excused from how the public perceives your opinions, so if you spit out fascist shit and you get backlash, don't come crying back to us. Shitasses.
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Joanna Grossman
@joannagrossman.bsky.social
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So the right to speak includes the right to have people agree with you? Wtaf?
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Kwisatz Sazerac 🖤 🐀🐀🐀
@acekatana.bsky.social
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The US constitution says you have to tell me I’m smart and sexy
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Sue
@suept.bsky.social
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It is not. In fact, suggesting that others may not condemn speech with which disagree is, in fact, the opposite of being a free-speech champion.
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Jim
@virginiadreaming.bsky.social
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It's not a right, just an entitled attitude by people who think they are much brighter and more educated than they really are.
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CJ the Awkward
@awkwardleftycj.bsky.social
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I invoke the eleventeenth amendment, the right to not have my feelings hurt.
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🔞MisterStupid🔞
@misterstupid.bsky.social
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the good ole "You have the right to be an asshole, but I have the right to point out when you're being an asshole."
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HuddledMass
@huddledmass.bsky.social
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No. It isn’t.
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Isobel Carr
@isobelcarr.com
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They pretty obviously think liberal college students should be shunned/shamed/and even arrested and assaulted for stating *their* opinions and beliefs.
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Democrackpot
@fitcheck.bsky.social
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Being mean to me is 1984
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Mike
@bingohandjob.bsky.social
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Rob
@bopterror.bsky.social
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Absolutely not, though I’m not sure they even mean “the right” when it comes to rights, I suspect they just mean “The Right”.
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Stanthorpe
@stanth0rpe.bsky.social
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That’s just BS. You want to say something unpopular? Go right ahead - the police can’t stop you & that’s your right. That doesn’t mean that there’s no social consequences for being a horrible person with horrible opinions.
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@jenniferholton7.bsky.social
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Never has applied to women here. Like, ever. They force-fed the suffragettes who went on hunger strike after being beaten in the streets and arrested. Women are still shamed and shunned for reporting rape, incest, sexual harassment/abuse, or sharing that they've accessed reproductive health care.
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Trapped in a Suburban Hellhole
@carljanderson.bsky.social
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Maybe I shouldn't expect Elon and Jack to understand what right to free speech means , as determined by the First Amendment, if @nytimes.com Editorial Board has no idea what it means.
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Brian Sweet
@sweetinxs.bsky.social
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I bet the ‘originalists’ on SCOTUS will find a way to make it a right.
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Dance: 10⁻¹, Looks: 3
@andrew3000.bsky.social
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The most important right is that of not having my feelings hurt
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Alan Hasell
@alanhasell.bsky.social
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Nope. And it never has been.
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Aaron Bourque
@afbourque.bsky.social
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NO!
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Innocent🕷Abroad
@jjgass.bsky.social
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A: I think trans kids should have access to gender-affirming care. B: You should be ashamed of yourself. Amazingly, I hadn’t realized until today that B was violating A’s rights. Thanks, NYT Editorial Board!
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Estarianne
@estarianne.bsky.social
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No.
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Raea 🦋💕🏳️⚧️🏴
@raeaa.bsky.social
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free speech is when i can advocate for the stripping of your rights all day every day to a massive audience and you have to be nice to me about it
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The Almighty Tallest
@spooknine.bsky.social
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Hey remember when we were terrorist fifth columnists hiding in our coastal enclaves? Good times
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Ceejopolis
@saysceej.bsky.social
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Nyt shorter: You can’t even call someone the n word anymore.
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Hexagonal
@hexagonal.bsky.social
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I have a right to be liked and told I'm good and smart and correct 😌
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@naoagw.bsky.social
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Nar
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Kara Jane Adams
@ghostinexile.bsky.social
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I prefer the Brian Cox version.
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@tidinzeo.bsky.social
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Nope. Freedom of speech doesn't insulate you from the consequences of that speech. Plus, freedom of speech means that everyone else gets to say what they want about what you said.
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Gluten-free Seitan
@davidjorgonson.bsky.social
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The right to be the only one with free speech and free association rights
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Nihl L'Amas
@nih-llamas.bsky.social
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If it gets much worse, we could end up back in the days when NY Times readers only felt safe expressing their opinions in secret underground stadiums.
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Dr Acula
@trevorcavanagh.bsky.social
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in essence they want the right to shame or shun, (oh, let's say... trans people for a recent example), without having anyone else shame or shun them for doing it.
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CZEdwards
@czedwards.bsky.social
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So, time to print and mail copies of that one XKCD to the NYT editorial board? Maybe in pounds and bundles?
xkcd.com/1357
New York Times Company
Attn: Editorial Board
620 Eighth Avenue
New York, NY 10018
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@emrsin.bsky.social
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Lol no
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Kat Z
@katzindc.bsky.social
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But I don’t want to deal with the consequences of my actions.
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Erik Bryan
@erikonymous.bsky.social
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Nope!
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RAALLEN
@raallen86.bsky.social
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“…by government entities”, then yes. Otherwise, no.
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Carl J
@plus-haut.bsky.social
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Nah...
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Anne Behemothhh
@annbehemothhh.bsky.social
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Shaming asshole takes is undemocratic?
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Rod Mesa
@roddio.bsky.social
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Fuck tolerance.
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Ellz
@ellz.bsky.social
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Shame on these fools
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RobSample.bsky.social
@robsample.bsky.social
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Pre Internet, people with crappy ideas were confined to their own backyard. No one would talk to them no one wanted to socialize with them. They screamed into an empty void and no one was subjected to their idiocy. Now they are heard, amplified, and socialized with millions of other idiots. 1/2
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Temple Drake
@templedrake.bsky.social
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This is fucking ridiculous. The only intolerance that is rising in the country is an intolerance for hatered,racism, & the ultra wealthy. Grow the F up. If you don't like the criticism, stop being a horrible person.
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Zac EpinEfron
@breenisterrible.bsky.social
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people confusing the freedom of speech with entitlement to a captive audience
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Serenity Now!
@cpo10za.bsky.social
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You’d think the editorial board of the NYT would know how the 1st Amendment works. And yet…
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brad
@bradiscranky.bsky.social
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It's part of dude process. The right to free speech means my right to freely make you hear my speech. This SCOTUS will back me up, I'm a white cishet man
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Nolan Zugernat
@zugernat.bsky.social
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The NYT and the right applaud people being beaten and arrested for protesting slaughter but they’re outraged about racists and Nazis having their feelings hurt. Fuck. The. New. York. Times.
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WobblyPython: Playing Every Metal Gear
@wobblypython.bsky.social
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There were always consequences for being a dumb motherfucker in public, actually. You were lucky if all you got was laughed at.
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Helen/Tina/Boob Punch
@tinavstammy.bsky.social
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No.
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Umbrios🌳🤍💜 🦓
@umbrios.bsky.social
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No.
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MyKidsMomBB8
@mykidsmombb8.bsky.social
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I’m confused. Our young people on college campuses are peacefully protesting genocide and yet they are being physically attacked, threatened, arrested, have snipers pointed them, cars ramming through them, etc. And the NYT slanders them continuously. WTF is up with that?
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@aburtonmatt.bsky.social
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Honestly makes perfect sense that they feel this way!
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beaned
@booperville.bsky.social
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hell NO it's not a right. it's called FREE SPEECH. like it or slink away like a cowardly worm. words cannot hurt unless you let them hurt. free speech is paramount. too bad bluesky doesn't allow it!
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Andromedid
@andromedid.bsky.social
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I mean that is not in fact what it means at all, but why bother with intellectual integrity when you can just make shit up to suit your own bias??
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Brooke Binkowski
@brooklynmarie.bsky.social
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If it was, I'd still be able to find a job
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Mark
@marksimploding.bsky.social
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Those who sit in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.
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Felonious Drunk
@feloniousdrunk.bsky.social
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TIL the NYT editorial board has never heard of the paradox of tolerance.
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EchoesFox
@echoesfox.bsky.social
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No. Conservatards have been silencing people since day one. They just can’t handle people finally calling them out as the worthless vermin they truly are.
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David Rolfe
@dorolfe.bsky.social
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If anyone’s scrolled this far, cite to the original is here www.nytimes.com/2022/03/18/o...
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Johanna Taylor @ JULY 23 👻📖
@johannamation.bsky.social
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*gets out loudspeaker* 📢 FREEDOM OF SPEECH 📢 🚨 NOT 🚨 📢 FREEDOM FROM THE CONSEQUENCES OF YOUR SPEECH
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Davis
@davis.social
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Luke Griffin
@lukegriffin.bsky.social
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Waiting for the nick fuentes/kanye west collab op ed, paired with an editorial decrying the unfairness of adidas cutting ties with the latter.
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