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Popehat@kenwhite.bsky.social |
Jailing people for being homeless is a classic American policy: stupid, brutal, and very expensive.
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Vamino
@vamino.bsky.social
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It does give them shelter though so uh... Problem solved! No need to think about it more.
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Jay
@templinjay.bsky.social
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Things will be better once we stop letting them build their own horrible camps and start putting them in THE GOVERNMENT’S horrible camps…
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Kirk Murphy
@kirkmurphy.bsky.social
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But will no one think of the prison guard unions?
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Matt Swift
@mswift.bsky.social
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Tax payor funded slave labor
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Bob
@drotrebor.bsky.social
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Puritan “work ethic” is the source of much pain and suffering. The newly made up “Prosperity Gospel” feeds this too. The truth is the USA will ignore any proven solutions that involve giving people something to without a requirement they are shamed for needing help, and made to work for it.
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@gustavo64.bsky.social
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And also likely to benefit corporate interests that contribute heavily to politicians.
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Anastacya
@anastacya.bsky.social
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Waiting for the first plan for poor houses to be approved by a town council.
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Fiery
@firehorsep.bsky.social
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Yeah, it'd be cheaper to give them a home and some support🤦♀️
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Alan "the Truth shall make ye flee" J
@n5iln.bsky.social
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It’s also one of the factors that brought about the end of the Gilded Age…and the onset of the Great Depression.
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Tim Kellogg
@kellogh.hachyderm.io.ap.brid.gy
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@kenwhite.bsky.social @h_thoreson also it’s something everyone can see happening, so it FEELS like something is being done with tax dollars
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Suzu
@suzusayshello.bsky.social
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But the benefits for the private prison industry can't be denied!
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Mary is Merry
@mmchol.bsky.social
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Right. So let's look at who gets the $, and it'll be easy to understand..
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@knuj4599.bsky.social
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What is your opinion of this picture that I took along the Sacramento boardwalk?
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Rachel
@racheljedw.bsky.social
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Someone who studied planning in grad school, cities are within their police power to remove encampments that pose a health and safety hazard. I agree with the court’s decision. But we gotta do more to help the homeless find permanent housing through law and policy.
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Col. Boozy Badger
@boozybadger.bsky.social
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Now Ken, they aren’t criminalizing homelessness! They’re just criminalizing sleeping in public even under circumstances where’s there no other choice available to you except never sleeping and analogizing a human sleeping to an alcoholic drinking. Perfectly reasonable interpretation of the law.
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hiive
@hiive.bsky.social
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Republicans: "Why are you complaining? Now they have somewhere to live."
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Jarda
@jarda.bsky.social
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Don't the Americans love stupid, brutal and expensive shit?
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TommyBenBergman
@tbapple.bsky.social
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Very expensive or very profitable for private prisons? Tomato, tomato.
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Puffin
@johnhpage.bsky.social
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Scam for private jails to bill the taxpayer, right?
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Well now, they often call me Greedo 🇺🇲🇺🇦🏛️🦉🦉
@natteringnaybob.bsky.social
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"Are there no prisons?” asked Scrooge. “Plenty of prisons,” said the gentleman, laying down the pen again. “And the Union workhouses?” demanded Scrooge. “Are they still in operation?” “They are. Still,” returned the gentleman, “I wish I could say they were not.”
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Canuckistan Bob
@nonotmenotmeno.bsky.social
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But so very necessary-- for if the poor are not poor because they are sinful, then it is possible the rich are not rich because they are righteous. And that is unthinkable.
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@golvio.bsky.social
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I’m guessing the jails see it as more “free labor” to exploit, so they’re pleased about this. 🤢
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Fuzi
@fuzi60.bsky.social
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2/2 a restaurant, there was nothing the city/government/police could do about it. NOW they will have the authority to move the homeless to shelters/housing regardless of the homeless persons desire to stay on the sidewalk and refuse assistance.
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Fuzi
@fuzi60.bsky.social
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The problem has been, at least on the West coast (where this ruling originates) is that until this ruling, cities and governments could build all the shelters needed, could provide all the housing and support, but if the homeless preferred to camp in their tent on the sidewalk in front of 1/2
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Dan the Gnome
@brewergnome.bsky.social
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Makes a lot of money for the for-profit prison, and the businesses making money from slave (prison) labor
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Marla 🏳️⚧️
@desperatemarlas.bsky.social
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Instead of just giving someone a $75 dollar room for the night we can house them for thousands and thousands of dollars in a place that will make it more likely for them to be abused, less likely to get a job and so many other perks
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James Jordan
@jkjordaniii.bsky.social
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If we were to just provide them with housing, it would not have the added benefit of creating jobs for the sort of person who becomes a corrections officer.
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SoCal Leslie
@socalleslie.bsky.social
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Free prison labor. This country is run by mobsters.
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donut
@funkndonuts.bsky.social
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why don't they just buy homes it's not like the median home price in the usa is around $450k or anything
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Dis
@disnothus.bsky.social
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It's only expensive if you're not including the amount of labor these institutions attain from it. If I'm not being clear, I'm wanting to also point out the prison-industrial complex's alignment in modern slavery.
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DBdant
@dbdant.bsky.social
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Next up: Work farms for the poor. www.history.com/news/in-the-...
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rahaeli
@rahaeli.bsky.social
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqvY... (Reposted because I didn't realize the first video wasn't the whole number, and I can't find a non-high-school performance of just this number, alas)
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Mitchell Epner
@mitchellepner.bsky.social
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So classic that O'Henry wrote a story about it in . . . [checks] 1904.
www.owleyes.org/text/best-o-...
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Mary Kay Forster
@momsterville.bsky.social
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Three hots and a cot. Unfortunately we've turned it over to corporations to run, so it's no guarantee about the meals or cots.
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Patty66.bsky.social
@patty66.bsky.social
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So, do they get sent to jail where they will housed, Fed and receive medical/dental care? TVs, books to read and have heat on cold nights. Sure, that sounds less expensive.
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Fabulous Abomination
@fababomination.bsky.social
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Correct, typical of a sociopathic society.
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B. Roo Sweinberger
@bruceweinberger.bsky.social
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It makes perfect sense if you want to punish people for being poor because your version of christianity posits that poors are not sufficiently godly
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ZeroFunctionalValue
@rayleighscatter.bsky.social
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It's the only way that we know how to feed and house people. How stupid is that ?
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Seentoomuch
@seentoomuch.bsky.social
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And will inevitably make the problem worse, not better.
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@zendarva.bsky.social
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It kinda feels like "You want us to give them housing? Ok, we will give them housing. You're not going to like it tho."
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Wren
@fiddledidi.bsky.social
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The homeless are needed to fill for-profit prisons.
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Tempest
@hydrogeo.bsky.social
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This feels like the court taking a step towards limiting citizenship (or protections under law) to landowners.
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Blue Honey
@devans00.bsky.social
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Now that marijuana is becoming more legal, gotta fill those for profit jail quotas some way. Cheap prison labor isn’t going to fulfill itself. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Torri
@transitorri.bsky.social
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Problem : People are falling in to poverty Solution : Outlaw poverty Murica'
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Princess Flutters
@princessflutters.bsky.social
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american "freedom" is just the choice of either: be soulless husk of a slave to a corporation of your choice and barely be able to make ends meet or become homeless and risk going to jail for even DARING to fall onto hard times
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🇫🇮 Onkamoinen 🇺🇦
@tucmo.bsky.social
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Isn’t cruelty, brutality a mental disorder?
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Brian Griffith
@qlippot.bsky.social
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Way more expensive than just housing them!
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David F. Soros
@wiselineprt.bsky.social
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Private prison corp shares are a Buy.
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KisseMjölk
@kissemjolk.bsky.social
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Didn't forget ineffective!
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@briancullen.bsky.social
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Throwing all these admin law cases to the federal courts is also going to be inconsistent, unpredictable, stupid, and very expensive. Congress should strip the Court of its jurisdiction over some of those matters.
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Always online
@alwaysonlinestill.bsky.social
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Shelters have simple rules
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Cuchulu
@cuchulu.bsky.social
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Property Manager: It says here you’ve been arrested. Applicant: Yes, for homelessness. Property Manager: I’m sorry, we can’t rent to people with a conviction.
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Matt Gordon (He/Him, mostly) ✡️🏳️🌈
@drmattyg.com
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This seems like the kind of ruling future generations will judge us for. How could we have really thought it was moral, or even a good idea?
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Will Rosecrans
@wrosecrans.bsky.social
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Jails are more expensive to build and to operate than... Houses. But for some people the cruelty is worth any cost.
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Dave M, Prole 4th class.
@davem3393.bsky.social
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“And the workhouses?” demanded Scrooge. “Are they still in operation?” “They are.” replied the man “Then those who are badly off must go there.” “Many can’t go there; and many would rather die.” “If they would rather die,” said Scrooge, “they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population.”
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Dave M, Prole 4th class.
@davem3393.bsky.social
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But very profitable if you're part of the privatised prison industry.
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@pouncingbullfrog.bsky.social
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And in a classic America move, also slavery
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Threemoons
@threemoons.bsky.social
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Yup. In the meantime, people are pointing to the Scandinavian/Nordic models that work, while being totally oblivious to the fact that such forward thinking safety nets will NEVER happen here. They WANT us sick, scared, stupid, desperate, and at each others' throats.
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Tricky Dicky
@trickydickybe.bsky.social
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And totally fails to address the root cause issues.
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JThomasAlbert
@jthomasalbert.bsky.social
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You forgot "profitable."
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@carynm.bsky.social
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CRUEL!!!!! What about Homeless shelters? Helping people obtain an address and maybe a basic income . If they need counselling.. skills training, and support in order to find work.. it’s all an investment in the country and it’s future. It will pay in the long run.
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Built to Shill
@builttoshill.bsky.social
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Jailing is a means to an end. The end being "be homeless where I don't have to see it."
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the jEfE
@thejefe.bsky.social
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They called them privatized , but they are for profit prisons. Profit and legalized slavery. They gotta fill them somehow. Empty cells = lost profit!
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Jaze
@jaze.bsky.social
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Work camps...think of it that way...legal slavery.
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Weirdmage
@oleimsen.bsky.social
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Would you not become complicit in this crime if you evict someone? Or, as the crime is sleeping outside, potentially if you in any way prevent someone from sleeping inside by denying them a lease, mortgage, or job to afford sleeping inside.
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R. Wm. "Ruedii"
@rwruedii.bsky.social
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It's also cruel and unusual in one of the few countries that has formalized cruel and unusual punishment.
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Mr Dr Bae
@dallas-taylor.bsky.social
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Cheaper once you factor in how their involuntary labor can be sold, though.
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DFW Sam
@dfwsam.bsky.social
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It’s also regressive AF.
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Pilgrim
@mpzrd.bsky.social
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Running "vagrants" off is at least original Originalism. The through line in our more compassionate era will be to have a nice enclosure somewhere out of town where people who commit homelessness can pitch their tent in tranquility. But I suppose some bleeding-hearts will just complain about "food"
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Andrew
@ads60nyc.bsky.social
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One of the most depressing Supreme Court decisions in my lifetime. And numerous cities will compete with each other for the cruelest laws. Maybe they’ll bring in Giuliani as a consultant.
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@mjk4mj.bsky.social
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Next, Stephen from "Django Unchained" (a/k/a Clarence Thomas) will write the Republicans' opinion legalizing sundown towns.
"Lovecraft Country - Episode 1 Clip | HBO | HBO Max" youtu.be/Ahe-xCMqFS8?...
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@mjk4mj.bsky.social
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Republicans need to provide shelter 24/7 to all. The only option in a Republican town can't be a criminal option (Republicans need to provide a 2nd option so a homeless person can avoid breaking the anti-sleeping outside law).
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@mjk4mj.bsky.social
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From the party who supposedly loves the guy who was born in a manger, they are criminalizing poverty.
Money is the only thing these Republican Justices care about, they are corrupt.
Return to debtors' prisons.
"Debtors' prisons were abolished by Congress in 1833 ..." www.aclu.org/issues/racia...
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Beth
@thisbethlife.bsky.social
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Not to mention COUNTERPRODUCTIVE
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Don Whiteside
@donw.mastodon.coffee.ap.brid.gy
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@kenwhite.bsky.social @mmasnick.bsky.social But it’s been working so well as a way to deal with mental illness for the last fifty years!
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Mad Dik 😡
@chaensaw.com
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The cruelty IS the point.
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@jdllama.bsky.social
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Mary Joy
@maryjoy.bsky.social
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We have a social welfare state...for police.
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Love
@drlovef.bsky.social
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Paying the extra buck just to make sure some poor bastard has a worse life than you do.
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