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David S. Bernstein@dbernstein.bsky.social |
Oklahoma State Superintendent Ryan Walters issued this memo today requiring teachers in all schools to keep a Bible in their classroom and teach from it as a historical document. (Via KOCO 5 News)
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Dabin Reece
@dabinreece.bsky.social
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You know, we could probably knocked about 25% of the caseloads off over overtaxed legal system if we just stopped letting Republicans do blatantly unconstitutional bullcrap for no reason other than they think it will upset a liberal.
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Halaylah the Elder, of No House
@halaylah.bsky.social
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My mom was an English teacher who taught the Bible as literature, in a unit with Dante & Shakespeare. But how is that supposed to apply in a math classroom?
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Sarah Thurmond
@sarahthurmond.bsky.social
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JFC
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Dave's not here, man!
@davewithturbos.bsky.social
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Like Genesis 19:33-36: "And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger" Oh wait, ban that book.
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Wendell B
@wndlb.bsky.social
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If you want to have to move to a blue state, fun could be had with this.
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Captain Hurley
@zoonie.bsky.social
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Uniformity in delivery, huh. There are some great books available by religion scholars that break down the development of "God" as written in the Bible (which even mentions El at least once) - kids could learn a hell of alot about critical thinking from the Bible when taught by someone rational.
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Brian
@beerandrockets.bsky.social
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@caitesq.bsky.social - this can’t possibly be constitutional, can it?
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Luck Be a Lady
@luckbealady.bsky.social
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Warren Terra
@warrenterra.bsky.social
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Eagerly awaiting comment from Oklahoma schools advisor Chaya Raichik, who is supposedly helping them to decide what books should be used in the classroom.
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Alan "the Truth shall make ye flee" J
@n5iln.bsky.social
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Let's see what happens when a teacher attempts to incorporate the Beatitudes. Or the Song of Songs.
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D
@regular-joe.bsky.social
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And the founding fathers said so with absolute clarity!!!
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ice.cream.assassin
@icassassin.bsky.social
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So many states seem to just love themselves some lawsuits.
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Veronica Green-Party Eco-Socialist
@smartirestgeenyas.bsky.social
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I would have fun with this. "The word for the day is 'contradiction' who can give me an example of a 'contradiction'"?
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The Loony Liberal - Writer / Content Creator
@loonyliberal.bsky.social
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"After Pharaoh agreed to release the Israelites, God mind-controlled Pharaoh to change his mind. And God reacted to God's interference by unleashing frogs on Egypt. Now remember that there is no homework due on Monday because we are legally required to kill you if you do homework on Sunday/"
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@queenofattolia.bsky.social
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This is why people stay out of Oklahoma.
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Peter
@cgblue.bsky.social
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insanity
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@clggmf.bsky.social
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No way was Oklahoma going to let Louisiana have all the fun. "Pffft to your Ten Commandments signs! Check THIS out!"
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Sleestak
@sleestak.bsky.social
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Harry Potter is more accurate as a historical record.
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Tim Just Tim
@timkrauss.bsky.social
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As if the population of Oklahoma wasn't dumb and uneducated enough before!
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404apathy
@404apathy.bsky.social
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Welcome class. Today we're going to contrast and compare the Bible and the Constitution with particular attention to the fact that neither document references the other as regards the foundations of our country.
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Kevin Kohler
@kevinkohler.bsky.social
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JFC.
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Bert the Kitten
@bertthekitten.bsky.social
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got your Bible got your gun
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SteveMND
@stevemnd.bsky.social
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I mean, if I were /required/ to teach about the Bible in school, I definitely would, but I'm pretty sure Ryan here would not be pleased with the accurate story of the Bible that would be presented (as opposed to his rose-tinted-glasses interpretation of it).
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@gooneybird.bsky.social
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If Ryan Walters ever picked up a Bible & started reading it from Genesis 1 verse 1 he would know before he was halfway through the book of Genesis it's not a historical document. My favorite question is where did all the other people come from that populated the cities & married Adam & Eve's sons?
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Mike Vlasic
@mikevlasic.bsky.social
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Maybe he meant "hysterical," especially Leviticus.
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Death of Ink
@deathofink.bsky.social
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So fictional stories pass as "history" now? Well then, I guess Little Red Riding Hood should now be considered a true story for kiddies to learn from.
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mjfgates
@mjfgates.bsky.social
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Run a copy through the shredder and make a paper-mache patriotic eagle.
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🏳️⚧️🔞Bunny Bismuth: Bun To Be Wild🔞🏳️⚧️
@bunny.bismuth.gay
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Okay, we'll teach that this book is why the world is such shit
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Janet Rosenbaum (she/her)
@janet.bsky.social
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Oklahoma students have some new language requirements too.
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Don
@wormeguy.bsky.social
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Which one? There's so many versions and translations.
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Джейсон Семерко Jason Semerko 🇺🇦
@jasonsemerko.bsky.social
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Somebody needs to flat pur ask these idiots why they're trying to turn America into Iran? Separation of church and state was to keep religion OUT of schools and politics, to avoid endless religious wars like Europe had.
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Joe Kalicki
@joekalicki.bsky.social
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Blatantly unconstitutional of course, and it would illegal to fire anyone who rightly doesn't obey
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Cowboycane
@cowboycane.bsky.social
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Try the Brie, it’s American Cheese Month!
@briansmith.pro
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I notice it doesn’t specify a particular translation so guess we’re using it to teach Greek and Latin!
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Joan Setka
@jsetka.bsky.social
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Well it is a historical document, just not in the way that they think it is.
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Alex Merz
@merz.bsky.social
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The Wiki article about this corrupt puke is really something.
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Michelle Lamb
@mlamb.bsky.social
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ACLU? DOJ? Anyone???
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Sean Kozma
@seankozma.bsky.social
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It is not a historical document, and the founders of our country made profoundly clear that the Bible had nothing to do with the Constitution.
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Derek Barker
@dwmbarker.bsky.social
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Important to contextualize why persecuted sects would want to come to a place without an established state religion?
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Johan Sæbø
@jsaebo.bsky.social
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To be fair it doesn't state how the Bible will be used in teaching. Having never been taugth it myself (and living in another country) I have learned to appreciate the importance of it on history later. But I suspect Mr. Walters will object to, for instance, using it to define hypocrisy?
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Emerence
@damemyniah.bsky.social
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No problem. “Today, children, we’re going to learn about gang rape.”
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Janet Linde
@janetlinde.bsky.social
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See? Obama wasn't wrong when he talked about "guns 'n' bibles." The scourge of New America.
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JeannetteBlue
@jeannetteblue.bsky.social
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Really fun replies here but this is actual lawfare. Most of us don’t have the means or fortitude to legally challenge this and have to wait for deeper pockets to hire the SPLC or ACLU or a union etc to bring a lawsuit. More flooding the zone with shite by Rs and they benefit every time.
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Chris Gaines
@bertin.bsky.social
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Please yes, teach kids the earth is only 5328 years old, or that it’s okay to stone people to death for doing yard work on the Sabbath. No way that doesn’t backfire.
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Symbo1ics
@symbo1ics.bsky.social
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shithole country
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proleartthreat
@proleartthreat.bsky.social
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little Alex found the bible..after his fall. after.his.fall
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Flip Switch
@flipswitch.bsky.social
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EmbraceTheBald
@embracethebald.bsky.social
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and they wonder why we fly over...
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Riot Poof
@riotpoof1120.bsky.social
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Malicious compliance: Kids, turn to your bible so we can read the passages about how Donald Trump should be st*ned to de*th.
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Chris, retired
@chrisll.bsky.social
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I would start with the story of what happened to Lott after he left town
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Tantric Worrier
@kaysertommasi.bsky.social
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Did he post the letter on the OK DOE website?
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MsLemon42
@mslemon42.bsky.social
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I teach history and this would be a hard no-go. It doesn’t contain most of world history, nor does it contain entirely factual statements. I use it as any other religious text in class: a way to explain the social climates of the time/region. The End.
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Michael Ruminer
@michaelruminer.bsky.social
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But they should do it only in Hebrew or Greek.
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Dag.
@3fecta.bsky.social
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This is the one who hired Libs of TikTok right?
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Pam Portland, novelist and blogger
@pamportlandwriter.bsky.social
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All these states trying to out-stupid each other. smh
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chadzia dax 🖖🏻 😷 🔞
@m00psy.bsky.social
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okay kids time to learn about a historical lover whose genitals were like a donkey’s, or whatever
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@lokicharms.bsky.social
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Violating the Constitution for clout.
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Bill
@twoandseven.bsky.social
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"And today kids, we are going to read Song of Solomon..."
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Xelkelvos
@xelkelvos.bsky.social
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The serious answer to this is teaching about the various discrepancies between Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John and about the apocrypha and how political religion is using differences between KJV, Catholic, Oriental, and other versions of the Bible. Then you whip out the Koran. Praise Allah.
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Xelkelvos
@xelkelvos.bsky.social
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Gonna teach the class about the history of Ezekiel 23:20
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David S. Bernstein
@dbernstein.bsky.social
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… Ha look at the Times ‘breaking’ this story that we’ve been mocking for two hours already
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Rusty Ralston, the ðude. 🍉
@imrustyokay.bsky.social
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oh god the YEC infection has sprouted again
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Mt Pleasant
@jekllnnhide.bsky.social
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Really, now. A teacher could have a bit of fun with that. I mean, fuck it - if that's where things are in that bumfuck location, non-thumpers aren't going to be there long anyway. Start with the 'historical document' excerpts about killing your sons and daughters.
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Eric Einsame
@cyclingennui.bsky.social
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Make sure they cover the Tulsa race riots in as much depth. You know: local history and all…
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Hyphen
@jo-hyphen-ann.bsky.social
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King James? New International? Revised Standard? Cottonpatch? Holman Christian Standard? Common English? Contemporary English? Living? Legacy Standard? World English? Lexham? New English? 🙄
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@stubobnumbers.bsky.social
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"Come point to the ruins of Sodom & Gomorrah on the map."
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Library Lagomorph
@bunnyjadwiga.bsky.social
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Christ, you'll excuse me saying, on a cracker.
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Broken Zero
@brokenzero.bsky.social
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Picture coming to a school near you. Blue eyes and blond.
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Albino Dino
@albinodino.bsky.social
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Why is he describing the ten commandments as separate from the bible? I guess Christian nationalism doesn't require knowledge of Christianity any more, never mind the Constitution
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Trapped in a Suburban Hellhole
@carljanderson.bsky.social
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If it's taught honestly as a historical document, fine. Let's discuss the multiple repetitive stories about Moses. Let's talk about the similarities to pre-Christian traditions of the flood. I say use the Oxford Study Version (My B.A. is in religious studies)
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Dave Palmer
@davepalmerusask.bsky.social
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This year’s school play: Song of Solomon
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LibrarianWriterGeek
@sctadsen.bsky.social
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Okay. Well, if he's going to insist on using a Bible as a historical document, then we can start with all the points where claims made there are contradicted by evidence from other sources.
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𝐡𝐢𝐦𝐲𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐞𝐢𝐬𝐝𝐚𝐯𝐞
@himynameisdave.bsky.social
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sep👏a👏rate👏 da church👏and👏state👏
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🌑Helena🌑
@gohexyourself.bsky.social
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First up: Song of Solomon
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JC ‘😃🪨’ Murphy
@imagining-sisyphus.bsky.social
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That last line is the clincher. Someone is pushing to get very specific curriculum into the schools.
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Adam Gessaman
@adam.windbag.org
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Trolling as Education Policy. (Also, as a history teacher I don't think they want us to teach any lessons the historiocity of the bible. The opportunities for malicious compliance are endless.)
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Torsten Pihl
@thorgolucky.bsky.social
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Of course a particular protestant sect will indoctrinate.
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Chuck Taggart, Private Eye
@sazeracla.bsky.social
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The proper response to this would be with bricks and baseball bats.
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@andrewside.bsky.social
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Are they going to teach the part of the Bible about land ownership?
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Eponymous for now
@polyeclectic.bsky.social
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Ulysses S. Grant was so incredibly prescient 150 years ago
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Wrygrin
@wrygrin.bsky.social
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Time to be super-literal. Use the Bible as a teaching tool to acquaint students with archaic food laws, contradictions, etc. Encourage essays on why the Bible is not considered a reliable historical text. Play "telephone" with verses, to demonstrate how ideas are not always accurately transmitted.
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Bill Stewart
@billstewart.bsky.social
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I'm not sure my math or physics classes would've found it useful, but the KJV would've been an excellent source for 8th grade grammar for diagramming sentences and learning to use singular "they". And the parts about treating immigrants are certainly useful in civics classes today.
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Raoul Warren
@richardmarxist.bsky.social
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“Kids, today we’re going to inquire as to why blasphemy is prohibited by the 10 commandments but not rape or slavery.”
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Dan of La Mancha
@knitdan.bsky.social
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Ok class today’s lesson is on the Jubilee, in which all debts were forgiven after 7 years. Next week, how rich people suck ass and can’t get into heaven.
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MF STEVE
@mfsteve.bsky.social
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lol which bible?
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psudonym
@psudonym.bsky.social
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"Have you read this thing, Marge? Technically we're not even supposed to go to the bathroom."
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Evo Daily
@evodaily.bsky.social
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The Heritage Foundation's been telling extreme Christians 15+ yrs to join every School Board and City Hall and they did. It's why Christian Nationalists are suddenly so powerful and Project 2025 ready. Dems ignored the threat of local politics and Separation of Church and State is being destroyed.
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@meehawl.bsky.social
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Oklahoma Ranking (1 highest, 50 lowest).
#49 in Education
www.usnews.com/news/best-st...
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HappyKaijuStompyTime
@hellokaiju.bsky.social
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Time for malicious compliance. Teach 'Lot and his Daughters'
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Sibben
@sibben.bsky.social
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Increasingly difficult to distinguish red states from Iran these days.
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Lara Huffman
@getupswinging.bsky.social
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Lawsuit time
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Michael Strauss
@mstrauss.bsky.social
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“Okay class, let’s kick off the day by reading Matthew 6:5-8. ‘When you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men but when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your father who is unseen.’”
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Eugene
@familiaralien.bsky.social
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I mean I can point out this is all unconstitutional but also just... the Bible is full of historical misinformation. Like just a quite example of many: we know from geological data that a global flood never happened so everything related to Noah is 100% bullshit.
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TwoWheelsDC
@twowheelsdc.bsky.social
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would a copy of the Torah count under this definition?
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Frank Lynch
@fplynch.bsky.social
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The Bible was incredibly important in our nation's foundation; yet few people know that General Washington didn't just CROSS the Delaware River, he PARTED it, being guided by what Moses did with the Red Sea.
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Frank Lynch
@fplynch.bsky.social
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Channeling Vonnegut, let's start with the Beatitudes
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Wendell Albright
@wendella.bsky.social
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Not even a law? Just an edict from Herr Walters?
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Doc McDoom
@docmcdoom.bsky.social
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<opening to the text regarding the Hill of Foreskins>
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Maisie Pubblechook
@maisiepubblechook.bsky.social
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Were I an OK teacher, my immediate reaction would be to order a copy of every "holy book" of every religion I could think of, and shelve them all together.
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Uniteas
@paddletothesea.bsky.social
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Cultural touchstone? Maybe. Historical and indispensible? Definitely not. The Bible was not meant to be historical any more than Fox News is.
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Stephen Hardwick
@nonfinality.bsky.social
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FWIW, I don’t think that’s the memo. It looks like the press release announcing that there is or will be a memo.
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Mary50shadesofWTF
@kapdoll.bsky.social
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Today’s lesson is that you can be stoned to death if you wear 2 types of cloth and how your dad can sell your sister into slavery. Also, those two crops your dad planted in the same field side by side, welp, bye bye Daddio.
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Mary50shadesofWTF
@kapdoll.bsky.social
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I’m still waiting for a science teacher to sue for the right to teach a science class in Church.
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@nullpntr.bsky.social
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How fast do you get fired in Oklahoma by teaching the 10 commandments in the context of how many of them have been violated by former Presidents?
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Hard Boiled Egg
@perigominas.bsky.social
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Which version?
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@christislord.bsky.social
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The secular left cant indoctrinate kids with their own personal, subjective moral belief systems and NOT allow other people to have a voice. Sorry.
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Patrick Schmidt
@pdwschmidt.bsky.social
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I'm sure the "uniformity in delivery" will be easy for a faith like Christianity with...[checks notes]...45,000 established denominations.
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tmonkey718
@tmonkey718.bsky.social
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If I were a teacher in OK I would have, along with the Quran and holy scriptures from all the other major religions, R Crumb’s Book of Genesis. I learned so much from that rendition.
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The Creatively Maladjusted
@tyrotcm.bsky.social
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Gorgon Zola
@bobbryan2.bsky.social
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So... does it specify which Bible and which 10 Commandments?
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Emily AF (Cry Era)🏳️⚧️ 🏳️🌈 ✨
@emilyaf.bsky.social
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On the plus side, being able to tell everyone you died, so you can have a long weekend, and show back up on Monday is pretty sweet
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TommyZed34
@tommyz34.bsky.social
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So an essay describing the logistics of what would be required for two people to populate the earth would be acceptable, I suppose.
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@darkwebmallcop.bsky.social
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It would be a shame if his contacts were bombarded with public comment
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Scott Nuzum
@apeman33.bsky.social
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I'd only teach the bad stuff and wait and see how long it would take for me to get reprimanded. "You said to use it as a teaching instrument." "WE ONLY MEANT THE GOOD STUFF LIKE WATER INTO WINE!" "Are you saying I should teach my students to distill their own alcohol? 'Cause I'll do it."
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TheBaroness
@thebaroness.bsky.social
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Become ungovernable, Oklahoma Teachers.
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Harry
@iharry.bsky.social
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Because stupid children grow up to be stupid adults and stupid adults are easy to manipulate and control
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Lizardguy64
@lizardguy64.bsky.social
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Teach the part where Jesus whipped a bunch of bankers out of church.
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Airball
@airball47.bsky.social
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Satanic Bible is cool? It doesn't say. Jefferson's miracle-free bible?
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