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Seth Masket@smotus.bsky.social |
YES THAT WORKED SO WELL AND DID NOT AT ALL THROW THE PARTY INTO A DIVISIVE NOMINATION CONTEST AND LOST ELECTION THAT WOULD HAUNT IT FOR THE NEXT HALF CENTURY
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Grudgie the Whale
@grudgie.bsky.social
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Oh my god
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marcosantana
@marcosantana.bsky.social
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Perhaps all the opinion pieces are being written by Republicans lol. @cnn.com @chrislhayes.bsky.social @nytimes.com
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Danny Pinion
@sirala6.bsky.social
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"And now er ah on to Chicago and let's when there..."
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Steven White
@notstevenwhite.bsky.social
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Do you think, counterfactually, LBJ would won against Nixon if he hadn't dropped out?
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Steve Darnall
@stevedarnall.bsky.social
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And which journalism cosplayer do we have to thank for this steaming heap of nothing?
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UncannyKyle
@uncannykyle.bsky.social
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Sure, Nixon took the White House that time, but surely the DNC challenger has smooth sailing into the Oval Office the next election right? (I’m joking, I’m from South Dakota, I know all about McGovern)
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Enton
@entoron.bsky.social
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The word 'Opinion' now regularly prefaces the dumbest thing you will have read on that day. I think it has become a civic duty to boycot this grotesque caricature of journalism.
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D.M. Schmeyer
@dmschmeyer.bsky.social
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The time to bow out was a year ago. More. All that'd ensue now is chaos and money bullshit.
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@drosgood.bsky.social
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Is this by Hugh Hewitt? George Will? Marc Thiessen? Some other WaPo right-wing concern troll?
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CindyLou
@cindynorth1.bsky.social
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who wrote this?
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Chaiah
@chaiah.bsky.social
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👍🏼💯👏🏼
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Drew Yewchuk
@drewyewchuk.bsky.social
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It seems like a good comparison, but not for the reason they think. By the time LBJ stepped down, his foreign policy support for a terrible war had doomed him and his party politically, and they were destined to lose an election to a criminal.
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Seth Masket
@smotus.bsky.social
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I am becoming a combination of Nelson Polsby and the Joker
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Tim Pierce
@unchi.org
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How on earth does nonsense like this actually get past an editorial board?
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JoyousPanther
@joyouspanther.bsky.social
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Opinion: What the fuck. Let’s invade Afghanistan again.
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Eric McDaniel
@ericm.cd
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Jackie Barbosa
@jackiebarbosa.bsky.social
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Those who do not learn from history are...doomed to look like mother ducking dumbasses.
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Chris Peterson
@realchrispeterson.bsky.social
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Before that election there was what we describe as a liberal majority on the Supreme Court. That was gone within a couple of years and has never come back.
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@professormike.bsky.social
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Amen
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Uncle Big Bad
@dont.bsky.social
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THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING
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@sequoyah1.bsky.social
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Agreed. 🇺🇦🌻
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RidgewayGirl
@ridgewaygirl.bsky.social
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That secondary headline is doing a lot of work.
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Jesse Baer
@jbaer.bsky.social
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This has to be a troll
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Eulogy
@eulogy.bsky.social
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Another winner of the read a single book challenge - God these ppl are so dumb
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@larsgottliev.bsky.social
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USA. You can Not afford this bullshit rn. trump has declared that this will be the last election. If he wins, he will cancel democracy. Please do not let him Do that.
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Carl Nyberg
@carlnyberg312.bsky.social
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Are you advancing an alternative history where LBJ was the nominee in 1968 and the divisiveness of the Vietnam War wasn't an issue for the Democratic Party?
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PKPs Powerfromspace1 🚀 Twitter ‘X’ refugee thank you 'Elmo' 🙄
@powerfromspace1.bsky.social
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Dems have never been good at succession planning for some reason.
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Seen 🏳️🌈
@seen4.bsky.social
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Someone should call in health checks for some of these major news room cause there’s either a gas leak or something in the water
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Jennifer Winch
@jlwinch1.bsky.social
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The MSM has been in the bag for Trump since 2016. They should be ignored.
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amdiamanti
@amdiamanti.bsky.social
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On my fucking fuck, just change the masthead to “We’re team GOP no matter how bad they get.”
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Jerry Boyle
@jecboyle.bsky.social
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Johnson withdrew because he was going to lose.
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Patrick Matthews
@matthewsp.bsky.social
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To steal a line from the immortal Heather Chandler: Did David Von Drehle have a brain tumor for breakfast or something?
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Pwnallthethings
@pwnallthethings.bsky.social
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Apart from all the rest, just tossing it out there that in the four years that followed LBJ withdrawing, Nixon appointed *four* supreme court justices
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@booond.bsky.social
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As soon as I saw the article I started yelling. LBJ is the poster child for not resigning. Imagine pulling that shit in fucking July. Only a complete idiot would think this was the way to go or a person who wants the Dems to collapse.
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Excalibur Discount Legal Services
@kevychristian.bsky.social
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Do you want a Richard Nixon elected? Because that's how you get a Richard Nixon elected.
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b-boy bouiebaisse
@jbouie.bsky.social
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who wrote this?
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Ghost Of the Basement
@sachism.bsky.social
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literally 1984
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Alice Roberts
@altaego.bsky.social
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We don't have to look that far back to see an analogy to today. The Democrats' strategy of ignoring progress and hoping the voters would ignore dissatisfaction with their candidate and just look at Trump's flaws was a losing one in 2016.
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Susieus Maximus
@susieusmaximus.bsky.social
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This just really gives the game away, doesn't it? You cite the lesson from history that makes it *most* clear that Biden should not bow out, because it would be disastrous, and try to pretend it shows the exact opposite. Someone saying this wants Trump to win. Period. That's it.
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@stndrdnickname.bsky.social
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ricky cilantro
@rickycilantro.bsky.social
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bad, stupid, ahistorical opinion
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@knowsit.bsky.social
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Chaos is oxygen for the christofascist
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Patrick Bormann
@patborm.bsky.social
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I really think Biden should step aside. But this analogy is the most stupid argument I've seen so far 😂
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Not Malcolm
@knowiser.bsky.social
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@smotus.bsky.social The problem with Humphrey in 1968 was that out of loyalty to LBJ he refused to distance himself from Vietnam policy and the draft, which led to rejection by voters, particularly youth, who opposed the war in Vietnam.
Any resonances there?
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En Buen Ora
@enbuenora.bsky.social
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Was this the editor of President Hubert Humphrey's memoirs?
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Jürgen Kalwa
@americanarena.bsky.social
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...and, for good measure, it got a criminal into the White House.
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Alan Richardson
@alanrichardson.bsky.social
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1968, the year the Democratic Party made all the right decisions
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Fuzzy Mike
@fuzzymike.bsky.social
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“nothing do do with” is a weird way to say “was a direct result of”
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David Gillant
@gillant.bsky.social
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Love how the author anticipates the obvious counterpoint and answers it with "nuh uh".
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Lezurko
@lezurko.bsky.social
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Having lived through the 1968 presidential election (I was in high school in Chicago) it would not be difficult for me to imagine a convention thrown open to all nominees as a repeat of all the protests that occurred that year during the convention.
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Victor Catano
@vgcatano.bsky.social
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AndThenWhatHappened?Goose.jpeg
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JNoodles
@jnoodles24.bsky.social
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It worked so well, just ask President Hubert Humphrey.
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Alan Fisher
@amfisher.bsky.social
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Zombie Nixon: Tanned, rested, rotted, and ready.
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Jeremy Bailin
@astrobailin.bsky.social
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RFK getting a little nervous.
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Accountabilabuddy
@accountabilabuddy.bsky.social
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Are you *sure* it didn't work? We still don't know what happened after that. The books are yet to be written! The latter half of 1968 is an unknowable future. (I assume all the opinion writers anymore live in vaults underground somewhere, delivering their weird missives via pneumatic tube.)
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Dr. Amuly (she/he)
@amuly.bsky.social
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“The chaos of 1968 had nothing to do with -“ THE MOST INSANE SUBHEADING IVE EVER SEEN. The most WIDELY STUDIED AND LITIGATED POLITICAL CONVENTION EVER and you just go ahead and assert THIS?!?! THIS!!!!
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Norman Wilson
@oclsc.bsky.social
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Notably, LBJ stepped down only because he performed badly in one debate.
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The Man From Rio
@themanfromrio.bsky.social
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The Rock is the LBJ of Hollywood
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@jiminnh.bsky.social
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Wow. That's one....um, take I guess. www.history.com/news/lbj-exi...
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Bob Dunn 📸
@netaloid.bsky.social
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What will it do to the party after 4 more Trump years? Do you seriously think Biden can win this? Thursday was not a one-off. That's why Biden's inner circle has been hiding him behind locked doors most of his term. If Joe & Jill can't be persuaded that he no longer should be driving then it's Trump
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@caucaphony.bsky.social
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Because LBJ would have won?… Pretty sure the goose was cooked with Vietnam.
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Jason Frels
@texasphotographer.bsky.social
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Where are all the opinion pieces calling for the traitorous, lying, fascist, convicted felon, madman suffering from dementia to withdraw from the race?
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The chicken lady
@chickenlady.bsky.social
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Katie
@katiek.bsky.social
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lol this is so fucking dumb
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eigerjoch
@eigerjoch.bsky.social
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I find this line or argument odd. Consider who they were running against! If the Dems had lost in 68 against George Wallace then sure ok, valid comparison
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Bob Booten
@bobooten.bsky.social
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Dump the Hump!
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Stephen West
@stephenwest.bsky.social
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"Newspaper editorial writers at the time praised Johnson's choice, which is definitely proof that it was the right one."
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Karl Magnacca
@kmagnacca.bsky.social
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Okay but people have also cited the contested R and D conventions of 1976 and 1980 respectively, which famously turned out better.
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rainmanbun (Terribly Hinged era)
@rainmanbun.bsky.social
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did a republican write this??
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As A Dog-man ☭
@scooterdavis.bsky.social
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You think LBJ should have white knuckled it straight through? I think you don't understand what the 60s were like.
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Colon Musk, CEO of GaceX
@themilfmag.net
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i dont think it was the divisive nomination contest that lost dems the election we really gotta nip that limiting belief in the bud
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Sean
@publichealth.bsky.social
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lmao i can't believe they ran this (yes i can)
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@crimsondynamo4.bsky.social
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Mike Puterbaugh
@mike.puterbaugh.net
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Be like FDR, who got re-elected based on a track record of popular policy implementations and then died
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Shoeflyin
@shoeflyin.bsky.social
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Yeah I'm sure all this "advice" is for the benefit of the party and the country (sarcasm)
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CisHet Billionaire
@bennettelder.net
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Nixon is the reason we had the shuttle instead of a Mars program. The reason Apollo didn't do the Venus fly-by. I mean, among the other terrible Nixon stuff. Just trying to scope this haunting to space stuff which I know about instead of the obvious other stuff that other folks know more about.
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Nick Brumfield
@nickjbrumfield.bsky.social
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"So I'm reading this history of 1968. Such an important year. Anyway I'm only about halfway through but already there are so many lessons."
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Jennifer Van Goethem
@jennvg.bsky.social
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Jesus fricking Christ. I am the angry goose, now. What happened next!?
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Cayce Garcia
@caycegarcia.bsky.social
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maybe it's best if no one make comparisons between the two situations
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tempus fuck it
@tempusfuckit.bsky.social
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That surely did not lead to any disastrous mistakes. Now to take a big sip of my water as I look up which other Democrat won the election immediately after LBJ's term ended.
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Cynthia Erb
@cynmar.bsky.social
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OMG. I keep thinking we were basically unable to manage Bernie’s challenge to Hillary in a reasonable way. But have people really never seen the images from the 1968 Chicago convention?
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@bluesouth.bsky.social
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It helped end the Vietnam War earlier, too, that Democratic voters opposed.
www.politico.com/story/2017/0...
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Casmilus
@casmilus.bsky.social
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My dudes, I already told you 6 months ago this is 1968 again.
discontinuednotes.com/2024/01/04/c...
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Chris Wilhelm
@cwilhelm24.bsky.social
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Plus, that was March, not end of June.
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Conrad Thomas
@panopleptic.bsky.social
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Byzantine.
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Mx. Peacekeeper
@mx-peacekeeper.bsky.social
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TBF, if RFK hadn't been assassinated, things would have turned out much, much different. I doubt Nixon would have won against another Kennedy, again.
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Real American Hombre
@realamericanhombre.bsky.social
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Stunningly bizarre and stupid. Like, when you ask any historian why Dems DON'T let the party leaders pick the nominees, they simply say "1968". They might even add "duh! Stupid!" to their comment just so you know how bizarre your question is.
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Torbjörn Björkman
@torbjornbjorkman.bsky.social
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This is the dumbest possible precedent to draw on for that argument, isn't it?
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