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Popehat@kenwhite.bsky.social |
Well this argument is . . . new
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Socrates Johnson (Paul)
@socratesjohnson.bsky.social
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You're being quite charitable today, I see.
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William Preston
@williampreston.bsky.social
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As Kirk says of cheating in the Kobayashi Maru exercise, "It had the virtue of never having been tried."
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Angus McIntyre
@angusm.bsky.social
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Do we have a First Amendment right NOT to hear what Trump has to say? Because if so, I'd like to invoke my rights.
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NutMeg
@casuallychaotic.bsky.social
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Every time Trump complains about the timing of his court cases I'm reminded that most of them could have already been tried last year if his legal teams hadn't deliberately dragged out proceedings with delaying tactics. The only one choosing to hold them during election season is Trump.
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@pacquah.bsky.social
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Isn't it just porting the now-standard "let the voters decide (everything from Garland's appointment to impeachment)" from the congressional chamber to the courtroom?
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Jinesh Gheeya, MD, PhD
@jinesh.bsky.social
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*Cries in VRA
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Jim Teeth
@drjamesjteeth.bsky.social
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I’m pretty sure my First Amendment right to call Trump a crook isn’t impacted in anyway.
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Paul Tree
@paultree10.bsky.social
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Trump lawyer come up with an argument that carried to its logical conclusion would not just immunize anyone running for any office from all criminal liability challenge.
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Dammitt
@dammitt.bsky.social
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What about my right NOT to hear what he has to say?
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Herne
@herne.bsky.social
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"Your Honour, I can't be charged with murder right now because it's campaign season!"
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Tim Clancy
@archstreet.bsky.social
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results-based jurisprudence
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toastfuker
@toastfuker.bsky.social
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I have a few things I would like the American public to hear. Where is the mic?
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Gojira1000
@gojira1000.bsky.social
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I wake up every morning hoping he's finally had the inevitable stroke. Not that it would be easy to tell, I guess
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JoBoese
@jaboese.bsky.social
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repeating others' comment that: they (The People) already voted and he lost.
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Enrique Gili
@gili92107.bsky.social
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Eugene V Debs ran for POTUS from his jail cell. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_....
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Jim Bonbright
@3rdandking.bsky.social
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Should I let the court know that I'll waive my 1st amendment rights?
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W.A. Kuemmel
@dogberryjr.bsky.social
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And it's only point "B." How much worse are the subsequent arguments?
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Bruce Ediger
@bruceediger.bsky.social
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Trump isn't going to trial here, is he? He's not going to be convicted as near as I can tell.
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Chuck Sanders
@chucksanders.org
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When you hire lawyers from ads in the Penny Saver you get this kind of creativity
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Well now, they often call me Greedo 🇺🇲🇺🇦🏛️🦉🦉
@natteringnaybob.bsky.social
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Next time I'm up for trial, I'm just going to ask for a delay because I am applying for a job. Which seems to be his main argument.
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asehpe
@asehpe.bsky.social
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Any chance it will survive?
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Emmanuel
@emmanuelmpeg.bsky.social
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A Random Canadian
@randomcanadian.bsky.social
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He could adequately be replaced by a language learning model spewing racist nonsense and the quality of public discourse would not change.
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@mljones.bsky.social
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Can I be entitled to NOT hear what he has to say?
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ENVY2024
@envy2024.bsky.social
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Oh yea. Never mind he lead an insurrection. These lawyers can fu&k right off. I am so sick of him being treated special.
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Sir Vrika MacPherson-Wolf, OMS
@vrika.bsky.social
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Trump could have avoided all of this- if he wasn't a career criminal.
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John Schwartz
@jswatz.bsky.social
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Nut case of first impression
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Matt Waters
@mwwaters.bsky.social
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The author went to Duke for undergrad because of course he did.
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Mitchell Epner
@mitchellepner.bsky.social
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How many syllables in "new" when you say it aloud? I'm guessing at least three, possibly five.
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@tomblackheart.bsky.social
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When you can't baffle them with your brilliance, befuddle them with your bullshit
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Prestidigitator John 🇵🇸🇺🇦
@tomscud.bsky.social
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what are the odds he goes full admiralty law?
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Nates Thought's
@thoughtsofnate.bsky.social
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Do we have the right to not hear what he has to say??
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ErrDivBy0
@errdivby0.bsky.social
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Many Justices seemed really fond of the "democracy" argument in the 14th Amendment case. Presumably the authors of this sophistry are hoping for a repeat performance.
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ErrDivBy0
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After hearing a liberal Supreme Court Justice argue that the 14th Amendment's "any office, civil or military, under the United States" doesn't encompass the Presidency (despite Article 2 and the literal authors of the Amendment saying otherwise), this argument seems almost respectable.
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Ravin Boodram
@rvbdrm.com
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His lawyers do realize they’re not getting paid for any of this, right?
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BRAK AND BLUE
@yinkadoubledare.bsky.social
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Asking them to stay the case while they pursue en banc in the DC Circuit without asking the DC Circuit is SMRT Law. Sure, if you're in SCOTUS you can ask them to stay but asking SCOTUS to stay when you apparently aren't actually appealing it there?
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Your Pal in Ypsi
@ypsidoodle.bsky.social
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Is it, though? It sounds exactly like all those people who claim that being blocked is outright censorship: "You should be required to read what I have to say."
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En Buen Ora
@enbuenora.bsky.social
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President Sovereign Citizen
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Spoonbill Reducks
@spoonbill.bsky.social
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How long, O Catiline, will you abuse our patience? And for how long will that madness of yours mock us? To what end will your unbridled audacity hurl itself?
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@colinmjensen.bsky.social
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The well-known part of the First Amendment that protects the Right to Sea Lion
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@branewave.bsky.social
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They've been shopping this one around for a while now. No takers yet.
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Josh "Go Drink The Sea" Brown
@theotherspeakman.bsky.social
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In an alternate universe that 19 year old British kid successfully shot that idiot before he became president and they didn't even go through the pandemic because the programs weren't gutted. I envy those assholes.
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Randy
@bchgoer.bsky.social
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Him running for office is a choice he made After Indictments were brought so…..
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Justice 54
@justice54.bsky.social
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Maybe someone should explain to his lawyers that we’ve heard enough…
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Viridian Dragon
@viridiandragon.bsky.social
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Sean
@spdean.betafaith.com
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Maybe we need to thank Trump for all the new comic/creative writing he's inspiring under the guise of legal briefs.
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Rhett Derrick
@lawzag.bsky.social
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Gabi 雪
@gabimccauley.bsky.social
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Ken, please can we counter with a lawsuit that being forced to listen to him violates my Eighth Amendment rights?
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🌑Helena🌑
@gohexyourself.bsky.social
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That's it...I am going to sue him for ruining Fiona's Gotcha Day. I wonder if Geoffrey Fieger is busy
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R. A. Meenan (Sammie)
@zyearth.com
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...Wow.
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summervillain / a. lee welles
@summervillain.bsky.social
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my right to have him 93,000,000 miles away at all times has been so badly infringed for so very long
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Accountabilabuddy
@accountabilabuddy.bsky.social
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On top of the new precedent the DOJ set for stolen-document cases, this would create a whole new system of scheduling trials around the defendant's hobbies. "Sorry, your honor, my murder trial will have to wait. I have a cooking class this fall, and the frisbee tournament after that."
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Thosw 🌮 🍹
@thosw.bsky.social
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We heard what he had to say and voted accordingly. Sling that shit a little harder. You missed a spot.
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Ryan Paige
@ryanpaige.bsky.social
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It would be a violation of my First Amendment rights to limit what I can write on a check to the amount I have in my checking account, therefore prosecuting someone for writing bad checks is unconstitutional.
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@mherringe.bsky.social
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American voter here. I hereby relinquish & release any and all First Amendment rights to hear Trump that I have now or will have in the future.
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𝐀𝐥𝐞𝐱
@leupp.bsky.social
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Twitter is gone thanks to this rightwing authoritarian interpretation of the 1st Amendment as guaranteeing not the right to speech without government interference, but the right, instead, *to an audience for that speech* without any interference of any kind
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Kevin Verhoff
@kevinverhoff.bsky.social
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The fact that I’m not on CNN every night is a violation of everyone’s 1A rights
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Lizard
@lizardky.bsky.social
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Because all his trials until now have kept him *quiet*?
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Angelo Zanola
@angelozanola.bsky.social
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Not letting me commit arson infringes on the free speech rights of the victims.
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Brian DeViteri
@bsbeamer.bsky.social
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This piece of spaghetti must be the only one left on the wall.
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@jiminnh.bsky.social
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I think Omar Abdel-Rahman (the blind sheikh) might have pioneered that one actully.
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@banjo99.bsky.social
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Did Mitch McConnell write this?
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Chris in NY
@chrisb2.bsky.social
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as usual he should have done everything possible to knock this trial out last fall instead of delaying as long as possible
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Malaclypse the Middle
@malaclypse.bsky.social
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“This makes sense, if we pretend neither Eugene Debs nor Lyndon LaRouche were actual people.”
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RDS (formerly shawphd)
@rds773.bsky.social
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Oh
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Dan Sandler
@danielsand.bsky.social
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Your honor, I can’t stand trial for bank robbery. I just applied for a position at McDonalds and you can’t deprive all of America from hearing me speak through the drive through speakers.
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Spam Fodder
@spamfodder.bsky.social
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YES! in 2016 3 million more voters did not want Citizen Trump to be president yet the were overruled by the electoral college.
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Melissa E. Beckwith
@melissabeckwith.bsky.social
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This just keeps getting more moronic...
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C.J. Raven
@raggededge.bsky.social
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So running for office is a complete defense against any crime! I like it.
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Jeff
@honeytree.social
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new and a bit desperate
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Karl Magnacca
@kmagnacca.bsky.social
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It's my First Amendment right not to ever hear him speak again, which is why the Constitution requires that he be locked in the black pit forever.
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Rob Honeycutt
@robhon.bsky.social
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“New” as in “new level of desperation”?
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@calizaybak.bsky.social
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So can I do that if I'm arrested? I have much to say and if I keep saying stuff I can't be tried! Cool!
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Robin Bobcat
@robinbobcat.bsky.social
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Because his ability to speak has been *so* restricted...
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John OH, JUST THE CRIMES Keynes
@bnr-keynes.bsky.social
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the first amendment means i am entitled to everybodys attention
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Secrecy Envelope
@bigstape.bsky.social
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I hereby waive my right to hear what Trump has to say
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Print Is Dead
@printisdead.bsky.social
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Ah yes, the little-known “right to free hearing” clause of the First Amendment
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Owe Jessen
@owejessen.de
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I suppose you did not say "compelling" for a reason?!
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Avram Grumer
@avramg.bsky.social
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Your Honor, the requirement that I appear in court to fight this parking ticket infringes upon the First Amendment rights of myself and my entire D&D group.
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FunkyBob
@funkybob.bsky.social
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So more PR and dog-whistles than actual lawyering?
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Kauffy
@kauffy.us
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I'm not really sure how being on trial prevents you from running your mouth when you're not in court. If there are restrictions to what you're allowed to say, it's because you fucked it up for yourself and demonstrated you don't know how to be a civil grown-up who respects civil procedure.
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Mike Branom
@mikebranom.com
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Reminds me of Vin Scully's reaction after a catcher tried to stop a steal of second base... by throwing to first. "That's novel!"
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kel belle 👻
@kelbelle83.bsky.social
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What about my right to never hear anything about him ever again? I could have gone my whole life not knowing anything about him and he took that away from me.
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HenryHill1
@henryhill1.bsky.social
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Doug Wolfe
@dwolfe.bsky.social
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The right to free (mandatory listening to Trump’s) speech
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@helchose.bsky.social
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Ah. The Artie Ziff defense again.
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Twin Bridge Secret Neito
@neito.us
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I think you'll find that any laws violate my first amendment rights. The first amendment says "I can do whatever the fuck I want with no consequences", right? No need to answer, I'm like 80% on this.
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Richard P Clark
@zippyrich.bsky.social
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I am the furthest thing from a legal professional as one can be I think so I would have to ask: is this as absolutely batshit insane as it seems?
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