The fact that Biden has delivered on left-wing policy far better than any president in generations but is widely despised by left-wing voters reflects more poorly on left-wing institutions and voters than on Biden. This is not a movement showing political maturity, and I say that as a left-winger
I think the administration has done a poor job of advertising their wins to low-info voters. Why don't we have lefty celebs doing glossy tv ads trumpeting the success of the IRA?
Biden's tenure has also been plagued with countless human rights abuses, loss of rights, broken promises, and literal genocide.
That he's not able to communicate his wins is not a mark against the left; it is a sign he is a bad communicator, arguably the most important part of being president.
I would say is that Biden has been good, but quietly good. The administration does good things competently, and too few people notice, and they get no credit. I don't know how to avoid this, to make people notice, I don't know whose fault it is (the press HATES him). But I think it causes problems.
How do you explain his comments regarding Mary Barra & GM on the EV summit? He doesn't seem to understand the need to electrify and move away from fossil fuels at all.
Isn’t appealing to voters part of the job of being a politician? There have been plenty of unpopular but effective politicians, just blaming the voters and leaving it at that feels like it only leads to failure at the ballot
oh yeah i love the left-wing institution of [checks notes] increasing funding for Ukraine, a government that is literally a bunch of Nazis in a trenchcoat, and [looks at notes again] sending more weapons to Israel, the country that has been enacting a genocide for 70-something years.
Age and speech impediment discrimination is absolutely stunningly embarrassing. These leftist profess to defend maligned groups but cruelly discriminate against someone doing a damn good job getting us back on track.
I draw a pretty sharp distinction between Biden’s domestic and foreign policies. Most Democrat presidents in my lifetime fail miserably on foreign policy.
I work regularly with progressives on climate issues, although I consider myself a Democrat, never having considered voting for Sanders.
Yet in terms of positions and values, the only big difference between my progressive friends and me is their contempt for Biden and Harris.
I think it would have been extremely interesting had Ds kept the House in 2022 again. For the lack of which, we can probably thank Hochul and Adams, NY's best.
Right now, he has a choice of keeping the government open and acceding to some demands from the RW'ers or no and getting blamed for it.
Wanting him to stop enabling a genocide doesn’t seem immature but maybe you can tell Arab-American and Muslim voters how childish they are. Off you go. Apparently I’m underestimating the number of leftists in the country because Biden’s poll numbers blow and only the left dislikes him
Presidential candidates don't even bother campaigning in my state, so what movement do you expect here?
I don't like supporting mass murdering thugs in the mideast who kill US aid workers and journalists.
His immigration actions are cruel.
He doubled down on Trump's trade war and Chinese xenophobia.
This would be a really good point if he weren't aiding and abetting an ongoing genocide.
To be clear, I'm still voting for the man, and there's been a lot of weird animus towards him even before the war in Gaza broke out. But he's disliked for legitimate reason.
He put all our college kids in debt and made a bunch of black people into slaves so factory bosses didn't have to pay workers any more what the hell are you talking about left wing
I personally don't think the main job of the president is policy, I think it's evangelism of The Platform. it's being the loudest voice for progress. and Joe Biden is currently the quietest voice in the party, so I'd rather have someone else. but against trump he's obv better.
I put this in a bigger bin, longer-term view of “yes, you can in fact blame the public/voters for shit and sometimes you should.” But that goes against conventional wisdom
I might take the BUT GENOCIDE folks more seriously if earlier they weren’t also saying they couldn’t vote for Biden because of KIDS IN CAGES and then before that it was LIED ABOUT $2000 CHECKS.
I personally despair of a great deal of immaturity that I come across with the all-or-nothing left wingers. Flame-throwing and self-defeating without a shred of appreciation for the skills of negotiation and compromise.
sorry why do we have to play psychologist for you again? biden has done a shit job and is a shit president and that's why he's a shit candidate despite being the incumbent, and that's before we talk about his rotting brain.
why are you unable to admit he's bad? also, WHAT fucking institutions?
The highest court in America is deleting and rewriting whatever laws don't sufficiently appease white supremacists and corporations because Biden didn't react to the reality of his term, and there's no obvious successor for this election because he isn't progressive, he just thinks Trump is uncouth.
The replies here are a great example of "prove the OP true" and I wish the people posting that shit had even a sliver of self-awareness about it.
(But that is never going to happen so I just blocked them all.)
wrt the Activist Left i think ‘immature’ is an apt descriptor given how effectively radical leftist movements have been dismantled over the last century, leaving each generation of kids to kinda figure shit out from scratch, but the failure to win over organized labor is *absolutely* on Biden
As a left-winger that is going to vote for Biden I find you completely immature and not at all serious if you cannot realize that Biden being complicit in numerous ongoing genocides globally and being a fervent support of the KOSA is going to incite a lot of anger from both BIPOC peoples and queers.
No, it reflects that for many months he's been cheering on a genocide. Shrugging that off doesn't make you "mature", it just makes you a pretty terrible person.
What has he delivered on? I don't see Biden doing meaningful left wing policy, but I do see him enabling genocide, destroying the environment + climate with new oil projects, doing shit all on reproductive rights, throwing trans folks and immigrants under the bus, destroying COVID response, etc...
The left wing doesn't want policies implemented, it wants to burn shit down.
It reaches this conclusion for the very good reason that politicians would never implement its policies.
It therefore punishes politicians who implement its policies, because that interferes with its goals and message.
If being mature means cheerleading for a racist genocidal nutcase because the other racist genocidal nutcase is on the red team, then take me to fucking Neverland!
Is Biden "widely despised by left-wing voters"? Seems like an overstatement. The "widely" part, I mean. Esp. since you're pointing out that you, personally, are leftist and not caught up in the rage.
THIS!
I've given over calling myself a left-winger or progressive, even though that's been my identity for decades, because in this environment I'm just not and don't want to be.
Joe Biden is great and yeah he's old but I will crawl over broken glass to vote for him, specifically, even if the alternative wasn't a clear and present danger to the country.
Joe Biden's presidency reminds me of that guy they called up from middle management that just gets shit done but no one remembers his name bc dude's just getting work done and not expecting end of ice skating routine flowers all the fucking time just for waking up (TBF, he might one day not wake up)
I moved towards loving him when I got one of my top items. And loudly supported him even trying to get my most wanted thing, the SSI Restoration Act, even tho it failed. I loudly supported breaking it up and trying to pass even a little of it.
But because he waffled on the filibuster and refused to even consider expanding the court, not sure what will last. He won a couple of battles but ignored the war.
Every president for the past 40 years has been center-right to far right, if you look at their policy actual policy. What would you say are one or two key left-wing policies that Biden has delivered?
Hi fellow "left winger" it's because Biden sends massive weapons shipments to the Israeli government which they use to kill children this isn't some big mystery
Lol, nobody on the actual Left - socialists, communists, anarchists, or hell, even demsocs - like Biden's administration.
This is just a dumbfuck catnip post for shitlibs.
I don’t think Biden is despised at all. I just think the Democratic Party needs to make absolutely certain Trump doesn’t win, whatever path forward gets that job done. Biden’s debate performance put that in serious doubt.
left wing policy like genocide and implementing Trump’s immigration laws and rambling about evil rapist immigrants, and coming out against trans healthcare, and keeping Trump’s tax cuts, and giving out more oil drilling permits than Trump, and selling Saudis weapons to kill the Yemeni with
I find the fact that he got basically no credit for some really significant domestic policy achievements to be a very bad sign, yeah
it shouldn’t be as hard as it is for people to acknowledge that he has actually been good on a lot of fronts
I really don’t get why the left can’t be like “yes, we appreciate that good thing you did. Here’s the next thing we need from you.”
I, like you, see myself as being pretty far left.
Politicians are humans and we need to act like it.
It’s almost like my 50 years of wanting actual health care not for profit insurance and fully funded public education and an end to apartheid states has exhausted my patience with someone who wants none of that.
I’m gonna vote for him anyway because….
idk basic fumbles on genocide and an incredibly corrupt supreme court aren’t it
I like the IRA as much as the next guy but bombing Gaza into oblivion is the elephant in the room
Yeah - I mean we really don’t have any left wing institutions, and what there is tends to be activist based outside of politics, or intentionally apolitical
The problem isn’t the visceral and increasingly undeniable reality of Biden’s decline, the problem is that the people who witnessed it reacted strongly.