Friendly reminder that Ronald Reagan was called senile so often it became a running gag on SNL and the late night shows. He then won 49 of 50 states in the 1984 election.
Reminder that the collective hive mind we call society is NOT, in the slightest, like it was back in 1984. We've become dumber, and I'm fucking terrified of what's to come.
(I might be a bit of a catastrophist, though...)
I thought I was the only one that remembered this. Mondale was thought to have roundly won the first debate where Ron looked old and confused.
[AR narrator:] Walter was unable to capitialize on this advantage.
Totally wrong analogy. Dem challenger in 1980 was weak, far too liberal for the country, and ran a very poor campaign. Reagan was over a decade younger than Biden and very well liked by the right and center
Yeah, but that was fucking scary. Trump is scarier, but there is definitely a scenario where something happens after 7PM and our president is unable to act coherently, very much to the peril of American lives. We’ve never had two worse choices. This is so super fucked up. Terrified over here.
I don't even know what to make of this. You apparently don't realize that Turd is the Reagan in this analogy? The Dems need some sort of Force majeure moment here to swap candidates. Otherwise, we're looking at a lot fascism about to bubble up like a clogged septic tank.
We will never see anything even close to this kind of US election result in our lifetimes. I was 9 when this election took place, so I can assure you, the country was an INCREDIBLY DIFFERENT one (for reasons both good and bad) back in '84.
Reagan would be way too liberal for the modern GOP.
It is true Ronald Reagan managed to counter-attack the concerns for his age, being 73 during the election. However I think Mondale’s vague campaign platform and choice of vice president did more major harm to his chances at the white house.
With a big boost from a limp dishrag of a campaign from Mondale who walked on eggshells around Reaganism and would not challenge some pretty egregious stuff. He was going to lose anyway, he should have been outspoken.
Rules are different for Republicans. Trump could shit himself on live TV and the coverage the next day would be about how Biden looked after smelling it.
I lived through this (though I was a minor and technically in another country) and I still don't know how the hell this could've happened. Especially knowing what we know about Reagan and how people felt about him.
How?
FFS. That was after his reelection. It became apparent soon after he was declining rapidly and was not fit for the job.
I’m afraid you just reinforced the opinion that Biden is too damn old and should step aside.
that's right. I love to compare my candidate of choice I'm trying to defend with ronald reagan. please do not ask me why I'm comparing my candidate of choice with ronald reagan because every answer I could give would not be great
I do not recall his senility being prominent in major news coverage. I remember thinking it was wildly under reported. He was also
the candidate of the oligarchs. So this friendly reminder offers little comfort.
Reagan never, in public, showed his Alzheimers until he was out of office. Became clear at the 1992 convention but he never looked like Biden while in charge. There's a whole thing that went on in his 2nd term, regarding his competence.
Yeah look I like the idea of democracy, dictatorship is bad, everyone getting a vote is good, but we don't seem to be properly educating people on the political system, voting policies not people, and large scale economics/benefits of immgration etc etc
That’s the first election I was old enough to remember (I was six). Neither of my parents were pleased at the outcome, let me tell you — especially my mother, Minnesotan from birth. Her DFL loyalties clearly stayed intact.
And then what happened?
Was he senile?
Did that lead to positive, or negative outcomes?
"My heart tells me that we did not give weapons to Iran and the Contras."
Not sure how to feel about this post, since both Biden and Trump are called senile very frequently and it is a running gag for both of them in political media... either this is a warning to brace for a Trump win if people don't up their game or to relax and not panic Biden has great odds to win.
And? What a terrible example. Ronald Reagan was a piece of shit. Personally, I think we need a strong candidate to beat Donald Trump but who knows maybe I’m wrong and we can just put forward senile old man who can barely talk and barely walk. I’m sure that’ll work out fine.
I'm trying to understand if you're using Reagan as a favorable comparison to Biden or not.
If so....
REAGAN, of ALL FUCKING PEOPLE?!?
I don't want 4 more years of "Enables Israel's genocide of Palestinians, continues to allow Cop Cities to be built and doesn't do anything for the people."
Yes, but he got shot 3 months into his first term, and never really recovered, mostly stuck to making speeches while VPBush did most of the work.
Which is why I decided in 1984 that instead of voting third party I needed to vote for the very disorganized Dems who only had Walter Mondale to offer us.
In the one state Reagan didn't get electoral votes from, Minnesota, he was roughly 0.25% away from winning the state, and this is with the Democratic Party's nominee being from Minnesota.
He was nowhere near winning in DC, so it wouldn't have been a sweep.
He had Alzheimer's Disease, which is how many define senility.
He also presided over years when prices stayed the same between one trip to the store and the next one.
Also, almost every sitting prez has a crappy first debate. Something about actually having a day job.
Obama was a sure loser after his first debate vs Romney.
This is what happens whenGenX keeps waiting for their parents (Boomers) to bail them out, rather than taking responsibility and seizing the reins of power.
I do not believe that American politics are the same as they were in 1984, he *was* senile and was one of the most evil men in history, and also the Republicans do not care about such things, they just want an evil racist, not a man with a good brain.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5wf... it was the source of their skits of him being malicious as being absurd ex: "President Reagan (Phil Hartman) acts hopeless and clueless in public, but in private he's an evil mastermind who knows every detail about everything happening in his administration."
Ronald Reagan did not show the nation and the world a confused and weak debate performance.
No. This is a false equivalency. We all know what we saw and how it made us feel.
"Trust your gut".