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Kasey Gifford@kaseygifford.bsky.social |
Just fold the studio into Disney and kill it already. Make Toy Story sequels till the sun fucking burns out. Love how this shift conveniently happened when more woman/POC were really pushing to direct their own stories. Defining their experiences as not "universal" is saying the quiet part aloud.
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Meade
@meade.bsky.social
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Jimmy Silver
@semsenthido.bsky.social
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Yeah, we both know that second-generation immigrants struggling with their heritage and Italians don't exist. It's not like Emotional Products- the movie™ or Relatable Emotions -White Edition©
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Silly B Man
@lawnerd.bsky.social
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I read the quoted tweet three times to make sure I wasn’t having g a stroke. This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Luca and turning red are brilliant movies. You don’t have to be gay or Asian to “get” them. I am neither!
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Cate 🐬
@catebridget.bsky.social
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it’s not even intentional but they’re putting down their intended audience as troglodytes
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Kesslan
@kesslan.bsky.social
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Turning Red was such a great movie too.
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Austen
@austenvalentine.bsky.social
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Wtf. Turning Red is all about universally relatable experiences that NEVER get addressed in any other kids' content out of Hollywood. The East Asian perspective of the experience elevates it to a shining example of how to use identity as a contextual bridge instead of just storytelling "flavour".
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Captain Hurley
@zoonie.bsky.social
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This is is *opposite* of what Pixar has always represented. How would this new policy ever make Wall-E? How would it make Up? Inside Out? Soul? Even Monsters Inc? Disney will look back at this time (I hope) and realise it's the 1960's revisited.
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Fioko
@fioko.tv
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As much as we might like them, the movies they referenced were catastrophic losses in terms of investment/return
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Silly Rookie
@sillyrookie.bsky.social
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It sounds like they want to blame the movies rather than the bad management burying them onto Disney plus instead of their intended theatrical release. The fired the last CEO for a reason.
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¡a!n
@xxiainxx.bsky.social
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I think, that you must agree, one experience we all share is being a nascar winning talking car. It’s just a simple tale that resonates with us all
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SeaDeepSpace
@seadeepspace.bsky.social
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>didn't release these into theaters with little to no promotions How did we not make more money it must be the wokeness.
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Rea, MSc Arc
@therineselene.bsky.social
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Incredibles 3: Dash is an incel
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🍈🏳️⚧️Honeydew Wolf🏳️⚧️🍈
@honeydewwolf.bsky.social
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I need someone to explain to me what about a fish searching for his kidnapped son has mass appeal and how that is different or more appealing than a movie about puberty
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Meat Sweats Enthusiast
@raulpudd.bsky.social
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We’ve decided that making our movies about things other than “Lightning McQueen spends the night in a haunted garage” to be too financially risky.
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Pepe Bumbo
@pepebumbo.bsky.social
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This hurts to read.
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"Level 0" Luke Rideout
@lukedrideout.bsky.social
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This blows. I don’t want homogeneity in my entertainment, I want to see the quirks and baggage of the creator like oily little fingerprints all over their work. That’s what makes art great.
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Dan Newland
@newland.bsky.social
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This truly saddens me. The early years of Pixar, with wild ambitions and unexpected stories were a high point for American animation. What's next for them sounds horrifically bland and disinteresting.
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Darmok & Jalad at BlueSky
@zman1902.bsky.social
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"Clear mass appeal" why not just say "white midwesterners?" Rip that band-aid off, Disney. We all know what you mean, you don't have to be coy!
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Alexandra Merideth Erin [she/her] - in my Brain Damage arc
@alexandraerin.com
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The movies they released in theaters in 2021 and 2022 didn't do as well in theaters as they're used to? Go figure.
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Armel h
@armelh.bsky.social
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yeah when we watched "Turning Red", as I'm a white cis man I couldn't see any interest in a metaphor about periods and coming-of-age of a chinese american girl and I didn't watch it several times at all, I mean no, of course this movie is awesome, who's f***ing advice was that from ??
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Zartak🦕
@zartikus.bsky.social
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Disney continues to fascinate me in how low they can go for the sake of commodifying the stories they’ve produced for near constant financial growth and the appeasement of shareholders, even if it means stepping over the very artists and communities they claim to be allies for.
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Nina Kalinkos
@eclecticclay.bsky.social
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How utterly freaking infuriating!
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Kobalt Network
@kobaltfox.bsky.social
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just shift the blame of their movies under-performing onto the marginalized creatives. Tale as old as time. Pixar is going to be making more corporate content slop like Lightyear instead actual movies like Turning Red.
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Dammit Franky
@frankyplata.bsky.social
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The part that drives me nuts is that their sequels and established IP spinoffs have never been as successful as the originals except for Toy Story. Lightyear is by far their biggest flop and can't believe they're stubbornly going in that direction
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Heidi McDonald
@hmcd.bsky.social
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The translation of their statement is: “We will use algorithms to ensure that while twisting ourselves into pretzels to appeal to the widest possible audience, we’ll end up appealing to nobody with vapid, soulless dreck.”
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Симо е пич
@simoepich.bsky.social
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"Luca" is definitely one of their best films. "Cars" isn't. But "Cars" sells merch.
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Ozma
@rowyourbot.bsky.social
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This is absolutely bizarre to me. My kid and I have watched ‘Luca’ and ‘Turning Red’ at least 10 x each. My kid is a boy -a very boyish boy-and he really likes ‘Turning Red.’ It’s funny! We love ‘Luca’ also. These are #1 hits on the Disney Channel. There’s a whole reddit thread about it.
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Transcatgirls4jesus
@trnscatgirls4jesus.bsky.social
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Also with alt text.
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Patrick Kincaid
@patrickkincaid.bsky.social
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Ugh. It’s dead then.
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Chris Miller
@iamcurious.bsky.social
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So AI is going to make the movies now?
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marythetrainer🦋🐢🤷🏻♀️😏🌎
@marythetrainer.bsky.social
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We sure don’t want any “director’s catharsis” movies like, oh, Citizen Cane, for instance.
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Davia
@zeroiasd.bsky.social
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And like, Elemental did *so much better* than Lightyear. I question their judgement on a purely financial side too!
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Patchouli Woollahra
@woollahra.bsky.social
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Directorial catharsis and commonality of experience can happen in the same film. I mean... do you have any idea how many Canadian Chinese are out there?
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Allan Moraes
@allanmoraes.bsky.social
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"Clear mass appeal" and "commonality of experience" sound like they're saying "we're going to use some cheap lazy ass Al, and because it only generates generic bs from the people's experiences that are more probable to be found online, all our movies are going to feel the same".
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Senescence Nerd
@drkatemiller.bsky.social
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Plato vs Aristotle still going swimmingly I see. Cinema is all ABOUT catharsis, not ghouls squeezing money out of the visuals and not the story.
www.britannica.com/art/tragedy-...
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Daphné (she/her)
@daphne36.bsky.social
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Im hearbroken. I was really looking forward to new diverse "autobiographies". Turning Red is a great movie.
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Joel/kingjder02/whatever
@joelsftw.bsky.social
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More!? More?! I don't know anyone who wants more Toy Story movies.
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The Queerest Plantgirl ΘΔ 🏳️🌈 (she/it)
@faeriesheep.bsky.social
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And people were saying it's a tinfoil hat opinion to say Disney was making good Pixar movies "fail" on purpose. Including how the first mass-released Pixar movie in the theaters after covid was the awful Lightyear one
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Hannah Shaw-Williams
@hsw3k.bsky.social
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The idea that Turning Red - a movie about the unbearable cringe of going through puberty - doesn’t speak to a commonality of experience…
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d.notive
@dnotive.bsky.social
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It's becoming increasingly clear to me that the people in charge of things have absolutely no clue how the things they're in charge of are supposed to be made.
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Becky & Frank
@beckyandfrank.com
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It’s so brazenly ridiculous. The two movies that didn’t get theatrical releases or video on demand.
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Voder of BORG
@crosis101.bsky.social
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So auture theory is dead?
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Just A Cuttlefish 🍉
@flycuttlefish.bsky.social
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It's bananas, Pixar was always the more artsy/explorative studio compared to Disney. But the moment new voices and directors step in that aren't the same group of white men, they say it's 'not profitable' despite the fact that those 'bad movies' were shoved into Disney+ and never given a chance.
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🌈OPJM🌈
@opjm.bsky.social
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Inb4 the audience vanishes because no one can relate to what executives think the "commonality of experience" is
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Bebe 'Electronic Tonalities' Barron
@phlox.bsky.social
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Ah yes, a "universal experience" is totally a real thing that art can be made about
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Topsycretin
@topsycretin.bsky.social
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It's such a weird stance. I know when I watch movies about other cultures, I'm finding the things that we have in common, not looking for stuff to feel excluded for. There is already commonality there.
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Disney Prime Video +
@disneyprimevideo.bsky.social
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We regret the distress this has caused. Given sone time and patience, we are committed to proving that our audience's money is all that money's.
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Oscer bun
@oscerbunny.bsky.social
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So no more luca
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gustyguy!
@thefunnyguy.bsky.social
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Seeing Pixar actually have its own true downfall is so surreal and sad to witness
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Fauxmorian
@fauxmorian.bsky.social
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"we are caving to the gamers who think anything personal or political that isn't their own is bad"
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Nick Nelson 🍉
@smmrhghlndflls.bsky.social
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Why no more bunny and coyote
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Alaskan Weeb
@alaskanweeb.bsky.social
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“What do you mean ‘share personal experiences’ and ‘find commonality with others?’ That’s not why humans tell stories!” - Disney
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Wratheon
@wratheon.bsky.social
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Turning Red was way more relatable to me, a cisgender white zoomer, than many other Pixar movies featuring cis white guys as protagonists. They really just want to maintain the damn status quo and appeal to your average American who's allergic to anything that doesn't conform to their comfort zone.
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JamesTheLooney
@jamesthelooney.bsky.social
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In the immortal words of Colin Mochrie, "Hey!...I'm staying out of this..."
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Jessie 🏳️⚧️ ϕ
@jessisamess.gay
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wait the story about the teenage fish man was AUTOBIOGRAPHICAL???
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@format.bsky.social
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This is an embarrassing take, the point of pretty much every art form is for the artist to express their perspective and experience by using the creative medium. Did a horse kick you in the head?
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@golvio.bsky.social
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I’m hoping if the troubling trend of reactionary conservatism & corner-cutting this indicates comes to pass, that it marks the end of the Trillion-Dollar Blockbuster & heralds a renaissance of the B-Movie & sprouts a counterculture of many incredibly ambitious indie studios doing passion projects.
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Reinonmyparade
@reinonmyparade.bsky.social
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Omfg. Turning Red and Luca are two amazing movies Wtf. And INSIDE OUT? Spectacular omg.. Why the fuck....
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a wizard
@gvc.bsky.social
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I don’t get the idea of making universal topic stories being somehow better than individual topic stories. Like we all have universal problems most people experience. But individual stories aren’t just good for the people who experience those less common problems, they expose them to everyone.
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Josh Dobbin
@joshdobbin.bsky.social
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This makes me wall-punchingly angry.
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Alex Plante 🐀👑
@aplante.com
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frankly the only stories i’m interested in are ones that pull from the director’s life somehow. even mad max stems from george miller growing up in rural australia with a crazy car culture.
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Kate Shaw
@tigerbattails.bsky.social
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Turning Red is one of the best Pixar films in years. Luca is charming and far better than most of the recent movies. Pixar has completely lost sight on what makes a good story.
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Harley (hellhound) and Frankie (human)
@harleyhellhound.bsky.social
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Wait… having feelings isn’t universal? Who said this? Eisner? Iger? Even Scrooooooooge McDuck has feelings.
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The Lost Scot 🏴🇨🇦
@lostscot.bsky.social
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Ugh. Why tell stories that might connect with viewers when you can just crank out endless franchise sequels? And in a few years time it'll be "why is nobody watching our movies any more?" and "why is everyone cancelling their subs?" Capitalism really does suck the life out of everything.
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Kodi Fox ⚣
@kodifoxw.bsky.social
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I fucking LOVED Turning Red.
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thadeus
@thadeusk.bsky.social
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Here's the full article for anyone who wants to read it (without all the 'make an account' prompts): archive.ph/9Y6AB
Billionaires and money monkeys only value profit. They do not possess, understand, or value creativity. Most of them are literally incapable of having an artistic experience.
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Ben Tibbals
@bentibbals.bsky.social
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Oddly, the Pixar film that was the weakest creatively in that period and didn't exactly light the box office on fire was "Lightyear" which sounds closer to what they seem to want to make more of.
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Sinéad McDevitt
@neadiegirl.bsky.social
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Ok reading the article... it seems to be all over the place?
There's the quotes mentioned but then stuff like "we're doing new things!" "We're focusing on tested properties" "we want it to be universal" "this is based on the director's daughter"
www.bloomberg.com/news/feature...
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HeyItsDuplex
@heyitsduplex.bsky.social
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Ah yes, the universal experience of being a Monster working at a factory with monsters in closets harnessing the screams of children to power our monster city, only to have a human child sneak in and run loose through the facility and try to send her back home
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RussMakesStuff
@russmakesstuff.bsky.social
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Ah yes. The studio founded by a bad toucher and a wage fixer continues to make stellar decisions I see.
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Jocelyn
@jocelynb.bsky.social
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Luca was fun and sweet! Red was crazy antics and had my kids laughing their asses off? Is this just because “universal appeal” must mean “aimed at boys and male experiences because girls can identify with boys but not the other way around?” FFS
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SkyIce
@skyice.bsky.social
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What made Pixar great was it's ability to take risks and tell unique and heartwarming stories. Take the McDonalds approach will generate short term profits at the cost of reputation, creativity, and probably long-term profits.
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Aoife “Fe” Baker
@vivaciousvandal.bsky.social
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Ffs Turning Red was INCREDIBLY universal. We’ve all been afraid of our bodies changing, we’ve all had cringe moments and loved things embarrassingly… it’s wild to think that an audience would only get it if they were an Asian-American teen girl.
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Raven Amos (½ of CubelightGFX) 🦖🐉🎨🐦⬛
@alaskanime.bsky.social
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THANK YOU - I was just thinking "Damn, Pete Docter really lost his shit after Brave, didn't he" after reading that article
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Lions Den Artwork
@lionoob.bsky.social
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Hmmm yes because movies made with a generic plot with no real human experiences behind will surely be very relatable and to the audience and win over masses, yes
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Dwight Williams (💉x 8) + 😷
@dewline.bsky.social
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I don't need or want corporate capitulation to incels, thanks much.
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r
@recombobulating.bsky.social
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The only way to reduce humanity to a singular perspective like this is by erasing the existence of all those who do not share it.
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kuro
@kurogato.bsky.social
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Nofr I hate when people make the excuse "oh it's not about anything I relate to hence it's objectively bad compared to early Pixar" my brother in christ Soul is about a guy who fucking dies
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Helen McCarthy
@glider.bsky.social
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If the studio's movies are art they must echo the director's and team's spirit because that's how art gets made. If they are just product then of course they should conform to the Disney template like every other can of baked beans.
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Derek Writes Stuff
@derekwrites.bsky.social
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Well then someone has an idea to pitch them
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Zone VI
@fredfred.bsky.social
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“Clear mass appeal”, that is, “American white males and the occasional token female”. God forbid movies should center a Canadian-Asian teen, an Italian boy, or a Black jazz musician from New York. How dare they tell stories about people who aren’t American and white! Regressive and shameful.
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Neil Stenhouse
@nstenhouse.bsky.social
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Shorter Pixar: we regret our former movies suggesting specific lives matter. All lives matter
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Spam-o!
@spamothenorth.bsky.social
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Disney knew what they were doing when they stopped releasing Pixar movies in cinemas. If it was about covid theyd stop releasing their own movies too. istg the higher ups just needed a scapegoat to frame Pixar's original movies as unprofitable so they can make more lazy sequels.
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Cait Dalsweight
@digitalwatches.bsky.social
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Meaningful things people make under the umbrella of a modern IP baron - or any large firm - are in spite of that corporation's priorities, and this is only becoming more true Companies often execute their programming through people, but they do not possess human values, despite often pretending to
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Joana
@layn75.bsky.social
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"commonality of experience" usually means things that I haven't experienced, but they're going to treat it like I have with no attempts at building empathy
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Birchly
@birchly.bsky.social
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Gotta say, I wonder how Brain Trusters Pete Sohn and Domee Shi feel about Pete Docter making them into scapegoats. Pixar of course failed thanks to their selfish pursuit of "personal catharsis." Theoretically... it'd be awkward if Docter had ever based a character on his own daughter or something
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Birchly
@birchly.bsky.social
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It’s such bullshit. The real answer to Pixar’s problems: Disney has been doing them dirty for years now. But that can’t be the official conclusion they come to, can it? So let’s just make something up and make people scared to tell their own stories in favor of chasing what worked 20 years ago
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Käptn Qui
@keptnqui.bsky.social
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Yeah, let me translate this bullfuckery: we will make ai written films with ai made characters and ai directors. Artists gfy
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Rochus Wolff
@rrho.bsky.social
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It's embarrassing how they can't see that it is precisely the specificity and diversity of these stories that makes them universal. TURNING RED was one of the best Pixar movies ever.
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Meta S. Foxx
@foxx278.bsky.social
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Ugh, why? This is going to make me less inclined to watch their stuff. I was not that big a fan of Toy Story when it first came out, and I'm less of a fan of it now. Why would I want a fifth sequel? Thanks, Disney. You ruined everything!
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Shroom Jester🍄🐻
@shroomjester.bsky.social
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The non commonality of getting your period, making friends, and having emotions
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Winstar
@winstar.bsky.social
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Disney still trying to chase that success they had in the 90s when they dont even understand why their films are so mediocre.
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🦉🌱Vane🌱🦉
@carlitahuitaca.bsky.social
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Basically we're stepping into a bad era of puritanical projection without risks that only prevail the relationality, while representation + risk-taking in art and writing are a zero to the left and that sanitization thinking of Disney is bad
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𝔉𝔯𝔢𝔟
@freb.bsky.social
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In the last 10 years they've put out 5 Toy Story movies, 3 Cars, 2 Monsters ...like just say all u want to do is sequels to IP !!!
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Keelah🔜AC!
@cruxfat.bsky.social
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Like "Luca & Turning Red"... Oh so like, the good ones?
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@thedavis.bsky.social
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My three-year-old has watched Luca - a movie released with minimal fanfare that we found somewhat randomly on Disney+ - dozens of times. People connect to stories about people.
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Violet The Gummy Shark
@exiledviolet.bsky.social
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One of the things people have to realize about people who handle the flow of extraordinarily large amounts of money in our society is that most of them are profoundly stupid. They also, down to a man, do not realize that and are incapable of realizing it. So they are very easy to trick.
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Princess Flutters
@princessflutters.bsky.social
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what confuses me more then anything is that the one who made this announcement about pixar's new strategy is...pete docter??? who has directed multiple original and personal movies at the studio???? what the fuck happened to make him drink the "EVERYTHING MUST BE A FRANCHISE NOW" koolaid?
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L. Wednesday
@lizzywednesday.bsky.social
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I cannot with this. Elemental moved me to tears; who can't relate to a story about family lore and love? (And, as a great-grandchild of immigrants, I found commonalities in my family's lore.) Also? It was not marketed correctly AT ALL and *that's* on the studio.
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MikeyT00
@devilmikey.bsky.social
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Last year, after The Marvels flopped, the CEO came out and basically said that the reason for all their 2023 failures was because of woke. He didn't use that exact word but that's what it boiled down to. It would seem like the mandate went out and they are following through. So dumb.
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@maverynthia.bsky.social
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Men always get to write their catharsis about how they (40+yo) dude got to creep on a ~20 woman and made her marry him or how she was evil and married a ~20 dude and not him. Women just telling a story about how hard it is to be female in the world is.. "Oh we have 1 too many of those"
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Matt
@cinematt.bsky.social
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Nice. They finally diversified their director pool and the demographics the movies were spotlighting, then stuck them all on Disney+ with next to no theatrical run, and claim they don’t have enough appeal to keep making them.
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Jon Luke vintage meme trust
@paperbagriker.fun
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Nothing says "commonality of experience" like a white suburban boy whose only real problem in life is having to move to a nicer house
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vek
@vekzero.bsky.social
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The two good movies were bad for business… yeah right
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Rob
@samuraipizzarob.bsky.social
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Incredible to think that Luca, and Turning Red are somehow perceived as 'bad' by a top brass that thought Wish was a good way to mark a big anniversary for the wider studio/corporation.
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Valid question, mom
@aldagrim.bsky.social
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ugh. tailoring for everyone is tailoring for no one
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Anthrodiva
@anthrodiva.bsky.social
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Weren't those....successful?
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DH Prints
@dhprints.bsky.social
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So I guess disney truly is dying. Oh well, I wonder how warner bros is doi- oh.... Warner bros: in so much f*cking debt, after canceling several upcoming animated projects for tax write off along with gutting hbo max and cartoon network entirely.
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The Closed University
@tcu.bsky.social
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Breaking news: getting your period is a minority experience. So is going through puberty. Unlikely friendships? Sorry can't relate, all my friendships are highly likely.
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Victoria Woodhull
@vwoodhull938.bsky.social
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“A commonality of experience” = white and male.
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Jon
@zer0bee.bsky.social
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I'd love to know their definition of "mass appeal," because we all know it's Cars. Thanks, but no thanks, Turning Red and Luca were phenomenal, despite the fact that there was absolutely nothing for a poor straight, cis, white man like me to relate to.
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Aisling/Luxe
@somnilux.bsky.social
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Fucking ridiculous considering how bad A Good Dinosaur (imo, but mostly talking box office) was and yet somehow the lukewarm response Luca got and the pandemic diminished Turning Red were the bridge too far.
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Kismetta Art
@kismettaart.bsky.social
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I think it says more about the reviewers who don't find anything relatable in movies about women/POC than anything else. It's almost like there's studies about how taking in diverse media increases your empathy or something.
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Birgit
@brischitta.bsky.social
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Domee Shi has been working at Pixar so long, she is in all the videos explaining Pixar story development to kids. I can't believe how dirty this is doing her. They finally let someone who isn't a white dude direct a film, and then do this. Puke.
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Fable Siegel, Lackadaisy Showrunner
@fablepaint.bsky.social
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yeah! make exactly the same stuff everyone else is making! that worked great for tv! endless reruns of cops and reality shows.... wait...
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RK
@rohtweets.bsky.social
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Funny they think a film like “Turning Red” doesn’t speak to a common experience of being human. 🤦🏻♀️
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Steve
@steve0x00.bsky.social
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Seems on brand for the McDonalds of entertainment.
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Idil
@idilsukan.bsky.social
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“director’s catharsis” is straight up a euphemism for “woman’s hysteria” or “something something woke” And “Commonality of experience” sure as hell sounds like “nothing wrong with strong white cowboys and astronauts”
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Wrygrin
@wrygrin.bsky.social
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What a giant PR piece of junk. Great directors have always used their personal experiences as a guide to their craft. Guess what? Many times, these experiences are "universal." An impersonal, corporate-driven conglomerate of homogeny does not achieve anything but failure.
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Eliot Lockwood
@lockwood.land
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god this makes me so mad, not least because Luca and Turning Red were two of Pixar’s most delightful and distinct films in YEARS. yeah they weren’t massive cultural hits because you made them both direct-to-streaming amidst the pandemic! we know this! get your heads out your asses!
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Rebecca Bowlin
@rebeccabowlin.bsky.social
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Hey, I hear you. It's frustrating to see big companies swallowing up smaller studios. And you're right, it's about time we see more diverse voices in the director's chair telling their own stories. Everyone's experiences are valid and deserve to be heart
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KITTEE M⊕RTIS
@kitteemortis.bsky.social
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"commonality of experience"????
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Unwise Peasant
@unwisepeasant.bsky.social
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YOU WILL WATCH THE HEROES JOURNEY FOR THE 99TH TIME AND YOU WILL LIKE IT! YOU WILL WATCH FILMS ABOUT MIDDLE CLASS SUBURBAN WHITE KIDS! YOU WILL WATCH A COMING OF AGE STORY!
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Bru
@brubaker.bsky.social
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Luca fucking rules, I practically bawled. Somehow kept it together for my then 5yo. Turning Red was fun, not as much my thing but said kid (then 6) loved it.
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jesse
@jesseltaylor.bsky.social
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I love that they're pointing out these (good) movies and not shit like Wish, one of the worst Disney animated movies ever released
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David Henningham 🏳️🌈
@henninghampress.bsky.social
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Their opposition of mass appeal to catharsis is nonsensical. In theatre, it is the audience that experiences catharsis. The Director experiences having money.
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The Professional Internet Bum
@professionalbum.bsky.social
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We knew that would happen when the Mouse House got it's hooks into Pixar. I'm just surprised it took them this long. Disney took the golden goose, made a shitty mayo from the eggs, and spreads it over too much bread.
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opus reticulatum
@forestoffaun.bsky.social
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a24 licking its lips rn
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Melancholy
@melancholyself.bsky.social
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You'd think Disney would know that "Humans wanna watch Humans", not lowest common denominator bullshit.
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fire at static valley
@atalantafugiens.fursona.club
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I feel like I’m one of maybe two people I know who actually really enjoyed Luca
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Fern, aka fineterra
@rollalltheway.bsky.social
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I love how all these big companies are helping me save money by taking away the reasons I wanted to consume their products in the first place 👌 I guess I won't have to give any more money to Pixar then ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Queen Gwenevere
@queengwenevere.bsky.social
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If directors aren’t adding a significant amount of their personal POV and emotional take to the stories they direct, then what are they even DOING? That’s their job! 🙃 Or is directing now reduced to “Brand Management and Strategic Product Placement” (“How can we maximize this for toy sales?”)
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Kristi Wallace Knight
@kwknight.bsky.social
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Turning Red was brilliant and wonderful and I was just thinking I want to watch more movies that are personal and hopeful like it was. I'm frankly bored of movies with "broad appeal."
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Adam Hancock Is Making TTRPGs (he/they)
@adammakesttrpg.bsky.social
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They wrote "clear mass appeal" and "commonality of experience" when they could have just written "white."
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Saliferous
@saliferous.bsky.social
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what the hell? Those were the only two films I thought were actually good to come out of pixar lately.
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William Marasco
@willmarstudios.bsky.social
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I legit could not believe this bc it sounded so fucking ridiculous. What a way to shoot yourself in the god damn foot 🫠
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Synthwhoa
@synthwhoa.bsky.social
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As someone who has never been a 13 year old Asian girl, I'm compelled to note that there is a hell of a lot more "commonality of experience" in that than whatever this dumbing down of content will bring us.
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Jim Sharkey
@jsharkey67.bsky.social
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The dudes who were like, "Hurr, Turning Red was not relatable" I can only assume have never known a single tween girl in their entire lives. Bro, you have no sisters? Cousins? Classmates?
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ARBco
@arbco.bsky.social
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I remember how Cars spoke to our universal experience of being a hotshot race car and breaking down on a small town where we're forced to reenact Doc Hollywood. Just something we all can understand.
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Dan Sandler
@danielsand.bsky.social
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So their solution to getting more sales it to prevent the directors from making good stories people want to watch? Like literally prevent Pixar from ever having a hit again? Are they just trying to kill the studio?
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C0RPS3G0BBL3R - seafoam!
@c0rps3g0bbl3r.bsky.social
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Even if Luca and Turning Red didn't have a mass appeal (they obviously did), I don't want stories just for the common denominator. I want to experience the joy of human connection through diverse stories. I want to know others through art. I want director catharsis. Godddddd
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AM (Amber Mitchell)
@thisisam.bsky.social
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Seems like these directors forgot to have commonality with the right experience
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🔞🏳️⚧️ Alurine Everblue 🏳️⚧️🔞
@alurineeverblue.bsky.social
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They'd better be careful with that pursuit of "universal" experience, or they'll end up with movies about class struggle. 👀
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@gmeluski.bsky.social
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Oh no not catharsis
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kinoko
@kinokosaur.bsky.social
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Turning Red was my favorite film to come out of Pixar in the last decade, easily. I find myself increasingly bored of their core filmography, which is largely "emotional stories for dads". You made some great dad, movies, you really did! But your audience is not exclusively dads.
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simongarlick
@simongarlick.net
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It was inevitable. What Disney did to Lucasfilm and Marvel was always going to happen to Pixar.
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TRML - (he/him) Elder Millennial Rock 🌟
@therealmichaellee.bsky.social
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"Here at Disney, we don't want you to love our movies due to their relatability and emotional resonance. We just want you to like them enough so you'll give us money to see them."
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cscottjames.bsky.social
@cscottjames.bsky.social
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JFC, how much more universal can you get than menstruation?
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tylr
@wawakanawa.bsky.social
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I thought everyone loved Luca 😞
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Andromeda Yelton
@thatandromeda.bsky.social
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I mean I’ve never been Asian but “puberty will mess you up” seems pretty universal to me…
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Em
@ermdracula.com
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Turning Red is the only decent movie they've made since 2007. I didn't see Luca, but it looked mildly interesting as compared to their usual menu of "derivative, tedious and manipulative" sludge
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@fleezlow.bsky.social
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This is so stupid, Pixar, as is, has been consistently making the widely popular movies for decades. Everybody love these movies!
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@crimsondynamo4.bsky.social
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"Personal stories might connect with people in a meaningful away and suggest a common shared experience that speaks to a larger humanity. Obviously that would get in the way of our plans to grab it all, own it all, and drain it all."
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Zac EpinEfron
@breenisterrible.bsky.social
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i just rewatched turning red and it's SO GOOD!
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Lilliah Campagna
@lilliah.bsky.social
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They directly cited the two best movies they've released in the last however-many years and said "less of that"... insane
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onekade
@onekade.bsky.social
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My two white boy nephews absolutely love Turning Red. Kids have no problem identifying with or enjoying stories about people who are different from them. It’s adults who fear difference. Very sad.
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@elrondcupboard.bsky.social
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The full text is basically “We didn’t do well with the franchise or with the autobiography so we’re not making autobiographies” which is erm... well. Just make a good film and market it properly?
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MeWantBite
@frogwife.bsky.social
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Hardly surprising but still infuriating.
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Thomas Wrightson (he/him)
@thomaswrightson.bsky.social
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I mean...I gave up on Disney long ago. So this isn't a surprise.
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Chaelrishe of the Arts
@chaelrishe.bsky.social
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Well, they can speak to the commonality of a big fucking hole in the ground.
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Eternal Cat War
@eternalcatwar.bsky.social
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Disney is incapable of learning the right thing from their mistakes holy crap
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maraleia
@maraleia.bsky.social
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The racism, sexism and anti-LGBTQ bigotry is spreading all over this fucking waste of space country.
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Brown Thumb Having Scientist
@chillyhibiscus.bsky.social
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Also like Turning Red was fucking adorable and did speak to me as a woman / former girl child and especially to every immigrant woman I know? Forever mad at how dirty Disney did it.
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the1gairon
@the1gairon.bsky.social
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R we sure far right executives have really left??
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Judith Butlerian Jihad
@xanindigo.bsky.social
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The idea that heartfelt stories don’t speak to any commonality of experience is profoundly insulting.
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Arcane Mundane
@wabisabihobo.bsky.social
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Sounds like Disney is saying, "Just let AI write it." So stupid.
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Kevin Kretsch
@drkevguitar.bsky.social
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Gonna have to explain to me what wasn't mass appeal about Luca and Turning Red. Some people are frickin' idiots.
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Nerdy Sasquatch
@nerdysasquatch.bsky.social
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This makes me wonder if the same thing is happening in Disney TVA. Can't help but notice that their animated shows by LGBT+/women/PoC creators with non-white male leads keep getting shafted and cancelled way too soon despite popularity and critical acclaim.
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FABLE ⛧
@fable.rest
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Loved Turning Red. Wish it was a movie that came out when I was a little girl. This just breaks my heart really
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Holly Pettit
@hollypettit.bsky.social
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Commonality of experience only comes about when real people share their real stories, not through formula, serialization, remixes, and marketing.
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TheBaroness
@thebaroness.bsky.social
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So, this is why movies suck.
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Riley Dawes
@heyadora.bsky.social
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So they want Pixar to make the same generic shit Disney already makes, like Wish, that bombed so hard it actively hurt the properties involved, and lost every animation award to Spiderverse and Nimona, intensely personal stories that people actually connected with. Got it. Zaslav ass decision making
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Pixie in Jail🔞nsfw art
@pixeljail.com
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they want to represent a commonality of experience? what does that even mean? the best way would be to make many different unique movies about different things, to collectively represent commonality of diversity but to make every movie about only common denominators of life? MORE THAN ONCE?!
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Matt
@mttlvn.bsky.social
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"Catharsis," jfc. Women will literally make the second most-streamed movie of 2022 rather than go to therapy, amirite fellas?
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Kasey Gifford
@kaseygifford.bsky.social
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A directors catharsis? You mean a HUMAN story? You mean an experience that might connect people of different backgrounds and make them realize we're all just people who share similar hopes and dreams? Just say "we don't want real stories we want to sell toys"
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Honey
@honey283.bsky.social
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which is crazy because i thought turning red was super relatable i cringed the entire time watching because i too grew up with a strict controlling mother
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Johanna Taylor @ JULY 23 👻📖
@johannamation.bsky.social
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Calling those movies “Director’s catharsis” is so condescending, too. That’s literally why movies are made, *every* director finds catharsis in telling their story from their perspective. But if it’s POC doing it, suddenly it’s too indulgent and unrelatable 🤷
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Lizardguy64
@lizardguy64.bsky.social
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Hold up, you still watch movies?
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Rocky Fuller
@rockyfuller.bsky.social
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AKA stories only about cis men's frail egos, subservient women who need a man to save them, and heterosexual love only Almost everything in this entire country is going ass backwards, this shit included, and I'm effing tired of it
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Scrabber 🪶 🔞(COMMISSIONS OPEN)
@scrabber.bsky.social
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The confusing thing is didn't their recent director standpoint films like Soul, Lucas and Turning Red get REALLY high praise (haven't seen Elemental yet but that felt like a personal story from the director too)? 🤨 And most box office issues with them felt more due to COVID... It makes no sense! 😕
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