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one of my deep seated beliefs is that elephants are one of the other high level intelligences on this planet and that if there is a judgment day humanity will be held to account for our crimes against them www.theguardian.com/science/arti...

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Anywhy's avatar Anywhy @anywhy.bsky.social
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Your sentiment here immediately reminded me of the climax of the classic Conan story, "The Tower of the Elephant".

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Cate 🐬's avatar Cate 🐬 @catebridget.bsky.social
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yup definitely. they bury their dead and revisit the gravesite.

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Lidia Ferrari 's avatar Lidia Ferrari @lidiaferrari.bsky.social
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Absolutely.

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Jimmy L 📚's avatar Jimmy L 📚 @jimmylabe.bsky.social
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the human history of concepts like judgment day is intimately connected to seeing ourselves as different from nature. let's take responsibility right now. not only are animals persons, humans are animals.

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Ellin Stein's avatar Ellin Stein @ellinst.bsky.social
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Mine too. I love the @sheldricktrust.bsky.social videos because they show the opposite, people looking after and being kind to them.

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robeagle's avatar robeagle @robeagle.bsky.social
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I would like to think, if they are as intelligent or near so as us, they will see which specific humans to blame :/ because many of us don’t want them any harm

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Waffle Cut's avatar Waffle Cut @wafflecut.bsky.social
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I like how for basically any culture from a region near elephants, they are constantly making paintings and sculptures of elephants for as far back as we can see

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KF Whatley (FictionWriterNC)'s avatar KF Whatley (FictionWriterNC) @fictionwriternc.bsky.social
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“One of the other… intelligences” say humans, always assuming we are the head honchos. Of course we think we are! But I would bet that elephants believe they’re in charge of Earth, as do the whales, and likely the squirrels in my backyard believe they are the true kings of earth. Perhaps they are!

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Caren with a C's avatar Caren with a C @caren.bsky.social
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Dolphins also have unique names. Whales have hit songs that travel from pod to pod. We aren't alone on this planet. We're just jerks about it.

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Craig's avatar Craig @craigforth.bsky.social
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One of the many, many reasons Edison can rot.

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Minilla Jovovich's avatar Minilla Jovovich @minillajovovich.bsky.social
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For sure. Also urangutans.

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Trip's avatar Trip @triphazard.bsky.social
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I recall reading, somewhere, a compelling case that elephants had a thriving, generational culture, and humans, being unable or unwilling to recognize it, wiped it out almost entirely. I mean, not like we haven't done the same to our own species, but this seemed even more tragic. Crushed me.

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Ryan W Enslow's avatar Ryan W Enslow @ryanwenslow.bsky.social
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YouTube videos in which elephants CLEARLY react to humans with the same kind of “awww” factor we have for puppies absolutely erased any doubt I had about their intelligence

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Annagrace K.'s avatar Annagrace K. @novalune.bsky.social
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Yes. I completely agree. 🐘 💔

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wildmonkeysects™ 's avatar wildmonkeysects™ @wildmonkeysects.bsky.social
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We are finding that humans may be one of the less intelligent sentient species on the planet.

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Joseph McCallum-Nattrass's avatar Joseph McCallum-Nattrass @jmnetwork.uk
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I went to Prague zoo about 5 years ago. There was an elephant with a star tattoo, obviously ex-circus. You could visibly tell it had PTSD. At one point it repeatedly hit its head against a wall.

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Kitten motherfukin Britches bitches 🤘😸's avatar Kitten motherfukin Britches bitches 🤘😸 @kittenbritches.bsky.social
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Amen to that.

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(((Mark Walsh))) 🗽🏳️‍🌈🐵🇺🇦🇦🇲's avatar (((Mark Walsh))) 🗽🏳️‍🌈🐵🇺🇦🇦🇲 @markorwalsh.bsky.social
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I've always found it to be a dilemma between making sure these guys have amazing lives but also how countries that do great with conservation like Botswana have trouble with dealing with elephants negatively impacting human habitation and agriculture due to their presence

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Ozma's avatar Ozma @rowyourbot.bsky.social
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We cannot atone.

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Tom Broderick's avatar Tom Broderick @trumbullbrod.bsky.social
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I’d add to this potentially what we do to *all* animals. How many other species have thoughts, emotions, and language that is like elephants but we can’t (yet) understand it.

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Nigel Tufnel's avatar Nigel Tufnel @misterrora.bsky.social
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i buy that itll be like... an elephant, an octopus or dolphin, and a crow... representing the earth, seas, and skies

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L's avatar L @noisybrooklyn1.bsky.social
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They are such beautiful & magnificent creatures. My dream is to go to the Sheldrick Wildlife Trust in Kenya. They do such amazing rehab & rescue work.

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Émile Lewis: Air Will Be Bud's avatar Émile Lewis: Air Will Be Bud @emilepleasestop.bsky.social
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Elephants and the great apes deserve some degree of legal personhood and the protections and rights that that implies.

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Mels's avatar Mels @maimysantiago99.bsky.social
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Ray Naylor has a great novella about mammoths that asserts similar

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draglikepull's avatar draglikepull @draglikepull.bsky.social
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If you have not read it I think you would really enjoy Beyond Words by Carl Safina.

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Eulogy 's avatar Eulogy @eulogy.bsky.social
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I got to see them in their element recently in Botswana and Zimbabwe and it was incredible. Just amazing and intelligent creatures.

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jdrch's avatar jdrch @jdrch.bsky.social
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It's kinda humbling that humans' dominance of Earth may be entirely due to having opposable thumbs and being covered in sweat glands. OTOH it must be crazy frustrating for other intelligent species to be unable to create anything from their ideas nearly as complex as we do from ours

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kata_ non grata...'s avatar kata_ non grata... @kata.codes
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i am reminded of the time a researcher played the sound of a dead elephant through a hidden speaker. that elephant's family went wild searching and were wailing for days. i hate us.

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Ben Birdsall's avatar Ben Birdsall @elephony.bsky.social
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I have believed since I was a child that elephants are better and wiser than people, and all of the evidence I've found learning about them has only deepened that belief.

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Arkenor's avatar Arkenor @arkenor.bsky.social
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For similar reasons I don't eat squid or octopus.

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Gloomy Gus's avatar Gloomy Gus @gloomygus.bsky.social
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I try to be nice to crows for a similar reason

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Cyneheard's avatar Cyneheard @cyneheard.bsky.social
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I'm convinced the only reason elephants aren't a highly tool-using civilization is they have to spend so much time eating that it's not worth it to them. (Octopus/squid are smart enough, and can manipulate tools well, but they can't teach their children anything because they die first)

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Redir's avatar Redir @red1r.bsky.social
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"Names were not always used in the elephant calls. But when names were called out, it was often over a long distance, and when adults were addressing young elephants." Azibo!!! It's dinner time!!!!

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OK Smarty's avatar OK Smarty @taterpie.bsky.social
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Have you read 'The Tusks of Extinction '?

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Charles Duncan 's avatar Charles Duncan @charlie2snakes.bsky.social
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If you're not invested in the suffering and slaughter of other species and trying to keep your cognitive dissonance afloat, their sentience and intelligence is so clear.

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Moderately Grouchy's avatar Moderately Grouchy @moderately-grouchy.bsky.social
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The bacteria are going to win and the result in 500 million years that actually builds a warp drive will have a random number from 278 to 2078 arms Elephants are a blip

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Robin Woodie Hirsch's avatar Robin Woodie Hirsch @robinhirsch.bsky.social
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We have a lot to answer for

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MrsVB's avatar MrsVB @mrsivb.bsky.social
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Absolutely. I adore elephants. Anyone who visits my home would know this.

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DodgerFanLA's avatar DodgerFanLA @dodgerfanla.bsky.social
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TBH I think they show more morality and "humanity" than many great apes whose behavior is often profoundly ego centric and "amoral" (relative to our understanding). Elephants seem far less self centered and caring.

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Eric Berg's avatar Eric Berg @lawliberg.bsky.social
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Have you read Footfall? The Fithp will avenge them.

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Chris Smith's avatar Chris Smith @chrissmithmuso.bsky.social
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Cetaceans as well.

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Randomsome's avatar Randomsome @randomsome.bsky.social
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And just genuine empathy from them. Their existence is gorgeous

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b-boy bouiebaisse's avatar b-boy bouiebaisse @jbouie.bsky.social
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there is a passage in du bois’ “the world and africa” where he laments the slaughter of elephants and it makes me cry every time i read it. when i have a moment i’ll post it

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But we have started to do good things for them
www.sheldrickwildlifetrust.org/orphans/toto

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Hylen S's avatar Hylen S @hylen26.bsky.social
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youtu.be/2VOvEFHDOaU

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Get Me Zarniwoop's avatar Get Me Zarniwoop @martinmorrey.bsky.social
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Petition to save the Okavango Delta, the home to Africa's largest remaining herd of #elephants, from exploitation by the fossil fuel industry
secure.avaaz.org/campaign/en/...

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Kim's avatar Kim @kimoco.bsky.social
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I heard this on BBC this am, and was not surprised.

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Flakey Foont's avatar Flakey Foont @flakyfoont.bsky.social
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and the whales and dolphins and octopi as well. fuck the whole planet. we've been such shit stewards

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MOKTOP's avatar MOKTOP @moktop.bsky.social
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It always puzzles me that we find feeling for creatures with high level intelligence but ignore the plight of pigs and rats. It must be due to bacon and creatures that want to steal your bacon.

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Christopher Federico's avatar Christopher Federico @cmfederico.bsky.social
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it’s profoundly insulting to elephants that they are used as the symbol of the Republican Party

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Pickle Tiedrich's avatar Pickle Tiedrich @prettyliltakemachine.is-extremely.gay
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dolphins, on the other hand? total bastards. they’d rule us if they could

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EndoftheAisle.bsky.social's avatar EndoftheAisle.bsky.social @endoftheaisle.bsky.social
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Who gave them their name? The mother? Or did the baby elephant get to name themselves?

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Samay Gheewala's avatar Samay Gheewala @samay-gheewala.bsky.social
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"researchers used artificial intelligence algorithm" so it's BS.

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Lia Pas's avatar Lia Pas @liapas.bsky.social
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@sagetoko.bsky.social 🐘 ⬆️

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Michael Thomsen's avatar Michael Thomsen @michaelthomsen33.bsky.social
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Well judgement Day is probably coming for real anyway....

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Lisa 's avatar Lisa @queerkitty.bsky.social
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it’s one of those things where I would trade so much to prevent their slaughter and habitat loss.

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His Bark Materials🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈🌌's avatar His Bark Materials🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈🌌 @oneiriccanid.bsky.social
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Them and whales.

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Josephine Browne's avatar Josephine Browne @drejosephine.bsky.social
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Most definitely agree Given human behaviour, there are days when it's hard not to hope for accountability - but I'd rather we can get some movement on such things now, for all creatures' sake 🙏

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a person's avatar a person @thingsfromaperson.bsky.social
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I've been saying for years, if we humans destroy ourselves I hope the elephants get a shot at running the joint

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StormRider @ #SGDQ2024's avatar StormRider @ #SGDQ2024 @stormrider.tv
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I don't know about World War 3, but WW4 will be between elephants and dolphins for who earns the right to judge us

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HammHawk's avatar HammHawk @hammhawk.bsky.social
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100%

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David Slack's avatar David Slack @slack2thefuture.bsky.social
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One of the few actually positive applications of AI is that it’s allowing us to decode animal languages. Bats, for example, argue over food, distinguish between genders, and have individual names for each other. www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-...

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Crows are one of the others, but they'd probably agree to represent us at trial.

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Jibblescribbits 's avatar Jibblescribbits @jibblescribbits.bsky.social
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There are multiple stories in @edyong209.bsky.social's "An Immense World" about Elephants & the way they use their senses that are astonishing

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Ian Melven's avatar Ian Melven @imelven.bsky.social
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in'shallah

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Edge's avatar Edge @czarbucks.bsky.social
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And whales. (Certain I’m not the first to suggest this)

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RTOIT's avatar RTOIT @rtoit.bsky.social
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Elephants will float to the heavens during the Rapture. We'll sink ignominiously into the earth.

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Jon Walker's avatar Jon Walker @jonwalkerpdx.bsky.social
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Don't read about what happened when scientist played the recording of a dead elephant.

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Deltron Zero's avatar Deltron Zero @lloid.bsky.social
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Yep! If aliens ask elephants and great whales how things have been going, humans are toast.

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Izzy's avatar Izzy @izzle.bsky.social
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Whenever I read about non-human animals that are vocal learners, I think about this Ted Chiang story: electricliterature.com/the-great-si...

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This reminded me about prairie dogs and how they tell each other a predator is nearby, distinguishing if human or coyote. They could describe a human with what colors they were wearing and if they had a gun. 😐
www.cbc.ca/news/science...

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 TheRubberdom 👢Blue Sky Sunset 🌍👭#Life 🇩🇪💕#Fashion #FetisH's avatar TheRubberdom 👢Blue Sky Sunset 🌍👭#Life 🇩🇪💕#Fashion #FetisH @therubberdom.bsky.social
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☝️ sentient people…not to be hunted

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Servia Martia Nemoris's avatar Servia Martia Nemoris @nemoris.bsky.social
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I read stories about how other species turn out to be far more intelligent than we understood (Douglas Adams did it with dolphins and mice), and I find myself wishing it was true and that they would ultimately step in and take over. We've proved we can't manage ourselves.

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Warhammerchick's avatar Warhammerchick @celticdragon1.bsky.social
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Elephants almost certainly deserve personhood protection.

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Matt Baldwin's avatar Matt Baldwin @thisbrokenwheel.bsky.social
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Them and whales, for sure.

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quietbob's avatar quietbob @quietbob.bsky.social
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So it is possible that "planet of the apes" COULD instead be "planet of the elephants"?

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Warpath's avatar Warpath @thinktank.bsky.social
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When it comes to intelligence: Elephants: just chillin, having fun. Dolphins: just chillin, having fun. Humans: destroying our own living environment while poisoning our food sources and hoarding resources while children starve.

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Jarathen's avatar Jarathen @jarathen.bsky.social
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No animal leaves me more disturbed at the zoo than the elephant. You can feel it knowing what’s going on there.

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Terri Glass's avatar Terri Glass @grizeldatee.bsky.social
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I’m pretty sure just about everything is smarter than people.

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❤️

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👊👊👊

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Wikidgarden's avatar Wikidgarden @wikidgarden.bsky.social
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TRUTH. Elephants, Sperm Whales, Octopus, all Cephalopods, Dolphins, and horses, and cows with their calm, measured kindness . . . .

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nika 🐦‍⬛ 's avatar nika 🐦‍⬛ @sojapojke.de
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Corvids definitely goes on that list too, but they are seemingly ungovernable and honestly, good for them.

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“Yo, Fiddy!”

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Minarky (he/him)'s avatar Minarky (he/him) @minarky.bsky.social
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Elephants, most other apes, many birds, dolphins, octopi, and border collies.

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ASP's avatar ASP @alansp.bsky.social
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Orca, too

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fulana de tal's avatar fulana de tal @soulamami.bsky.social
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I believe this in my soul

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jimprov's avatar jimprov @jimprov.sendusyourmoney.com
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I was floor mates in college with a gal who was legit royalty in Pakistan and she told me about a time a wedding party was ruined by elephants that got drunk on fermented fruits and crashed through the fences and then fucked shit up.

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Benjamín Schultz-Figueroa's avatar Benjamín Schultz-Figueroa @benspky.bsky.social
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Have you ever seen this? It's a fantastic short film about animals, extinction, and intelligence.

vimeo.com/195588827

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Martin's avatar Martin @concretebadger.bsky.social
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I like to think that, should aliens visit Earth, they conclude with "we've found the superior form of intelligent life forms on that planet. The big grey ones with long noses. Fascinating and enchanting."

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Zeroisanumber's avatar Zeroisanumber @zeroisanumber.bsky.social
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I'm not religious, but anyone who harms an elephant is a sinner and will not see heaven.

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Jonathan Ladd's avatar Jonathan Ladd @jonmladd.bsky.social
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Yes, I think about elephants and whales this way.

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Frank Lynch's avatar Frank Lynch @fplynch.bsky.social
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In some ways they remind me of the visitors in Arrival

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Seeing them celebrate a birth together is sublime

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Ted's avatar Ted @tedinpa.bsky.social
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I, for one, welcome our new pachyderm overlords

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Sophie these days's avatar Sophie these days @spiderandme.bsky.social
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i hope so

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Ditto

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Viola Smart 's avatar Viola Smart @smartvpants.bsky.social
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Whenever I think of elephants I think about the woman who got killed by an elephant and then the elephant showed up later to trample on her cough and at our funeral because elephants do not forget.

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Sanne van Oosten's avatar Sanne van Oosten @sbvanoosten.bsky.social
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Amazing animals ❤️

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BirdieRoad's avatar BirdieRoad @birdieroad.bsky.social
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And gorillas/ other primates 😢

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John ✦°'s avatar John ✦° @johnchavez.io
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You know……I agree. Whales as well. Orcas are already revolting. #TeamWhale&Elephant

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+AdamBlack 's avatar +AdamBlack @redrocket.bsky.social
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Ceteceans have whistle names. The peaks and valleys are similar to humans phonemes.

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John Belmont's avatar John Belmont @jwbelmon.bsky.social
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I think my wife’s dog prefers me

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Jezebel's avatar Jezebel @nachthexxe.bsky.social
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Also whales.

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Nikki Jayne's avatar Nikki Jayne @nikkijayne.bsky.social
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There was a story from Sheldrick Wildlife Trust in Kenya recently where a herd of elephants came across an orphaned elephant and escorted him all the way to the sanctuary. There are also tales of injured elephants turning up there, even ones that aren’t ex-orphans. It’s incredible.

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Henry Farrell's avatar Henry Farrell @himself.bsky.social
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worth reading us.macmillan.com/books/978125...

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T's avatar T @tuesdayalia.bsky.social
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I love them 🤍

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Old Unreliable's avatar Old Unreliable @oldunreliable.bsky.social
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No one is going to be held to account for anything. There are 8 billion humans and we need land. There isn't room for big animals. They exist at the margins, at our pleasure. Their populations are all in long-term decline and sooner or later they will be gone. It will just be us and the cockroaches.

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Temple Drake's avatar Temple Drake @templedrake.bsky.social
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Hard agree. Many animals have high intelligence, we are just too stupid to see it.

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Elizabeth Roderick's avatar Elizabeth Roderick @talesfrompurgatory.bsky.social
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I think basically all other creatures are much more self-aware and have more complex communication than humans generally accept. Elephants seem particularly self-aware.

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SoulCastle (GoFundMe!)'s avatar SoulCastle (GoFundMe!) @soulcastlefilms.bsky.social
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Elephants, whales, apes. Any and all animals, especially those with high intelligence, deserve their freedom and our respect.

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Tom Wrongbottom 🍦's avatar Tom Wrongbottom 🍦 @wrongbottom.bsky.social
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Kevin Gannon 's avatar Kevin Gannon @thetattooedprof.bsky.social
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Agree one hundred percent

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its moira's avatar its moira @m01r4.bsky.social
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yeah i believe elephants should be allowed to vote like elephants are fully people

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Doctor Acula's avatar Doctor Acula @doctoracularf.bsky.social
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Supposedly they have a better understanding of death than basically any other animal except humans. Like, they'll try and get the bones of other elephants back if humans take them away.

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Oliver's avatar Oliver @theoldhouse.bsky.social
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Corvids too

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Wes Miller's avatar Wes Miller @getwired.bsky.social
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Imagine if the whales and the elephants held court. We’d be so screwed.

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Sam W's avatar Sam W @samiw.bsky.social
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I feel the same way about orcas. They have languages that are clearly distinct across regions. They have complex social structures and display high empathy towards one another. I feel sick to my stomach every time I see images of them performing in captivity. It must be torture for them.

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An Unknown Compelling Force's avatar An Unknown Compelling Force @oscarandjeeves.bsky.social
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I want to befriend an elephant so very much

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Wattle of Bits 🏳️‍🌈's avatar Wattle of Bits 🏳️‍🌈 @wattle.bsky.social
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This is pretty clearly the case. Our arrogance is humiliating

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Buttadeus's avatar Buttadeus @thewanderingjew.bsky.social
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The Mammoths, too.

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J_Lynn's avatar J_Lynn @spinster-auntie.bsky.social
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I firmly believe the captors of Topsy the elephant are in h*ll for electrocuting her as a publicity stunt. Humans have a long line of sins towards animals to pay for.

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There’s a Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal comic where the punchline is, “when the robots declared war on humanity, the animals joined in…on the side of the robots.”

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Gina's avatar Gina @ginatb2.bsky.social
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They are amazing

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Kevin OMalley's avatar Kevin OMalley @holyshitimfucked.com
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Octopuses, Elephants, and Crows. When people talk about wanting to communicate with aliens, I wonder why they don't want to communicate with the non-human intelligences here.

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Alisha Grauso's avatar Alisha Grauso @alishagrauso.bsky.social
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You might be interested in this. We've known this about elephants & a few other species (dolphins, whales, apes, corvids, etc.) for a while, but the more scientists learn, the more they discover there's a lot more cognition in a lot more animals than we thought. www.nbcnews.com/science/scie...

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Jennifer Griffin Graham's avatar Jennifer Griffin Graham @jgriffingraham.bsky.social
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Literally every fact we learn about them reinforces that for me.

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David's avatar David @romanticslob.bsky.social
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I'd take it a step further. If I was President I'd appoint human ambassadors for Cephalopods, Cetaceans, Apes, and Elephants charged with oversight of habitat restoration, repatriation, and specifically earmarked foreign aid. And I'm not even vegan; it's just objectively correct.

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Elizabeth Picciuto's avatar Elizabeth Picciuto @epicciuto.bsky.social
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My main takeaway from reading and studying philosophy for a long time is that we overestimate human cognitive capacities and grossly underestimate animal cognitive capacities.

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LunarBike's avatar LunarBike @lunarbike.bsky.social
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Why would humanity only need to be held accountable for deplorable actions towards other beings with high intelligence?

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Julia Lynch's avatar Julia Lynch @jlynch13.bsky.social
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Honestly, primates kinda suck.

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