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Michael Hobbes

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Wild to watch horserace journalists suggest the most politically suicidal shit and pretend it's savvy.
www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc...

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RRRVVVWWW's avatar RRRVVVWWW @rrrvvvwww.bsky.social
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This is absolute insanity.

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Matt Swift's avatar Matt Swift @mswift.bsky.social
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This is something you write down when you are high as fuck and then read it the next day, laugh at your own stupid ass, and throw the Taco Bell napkin it’s written on away.

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Tom Lambert's avatar Tom Lambert @tommylamb.bsky.social
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politics would be interesting again"!!! 😅

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Conor White for some reason's avatar Conor White for some reason @conorjwhite.bsky.social
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It is all fan fiction to them. Episodes of the west wing. None of these people live in the same reality as the rest of us. It's truly that simple.

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Fellow Member of Your Preferred In-Group 's avatar Fellow Member of Your Preferred In-Group @immaculatepizza.bsky.social
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"we heard you people can't stop living through the 2016 primary so we're going to let you do it all over again"

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jasper pilled's avatar jasper pilled @hoovybaby.bsky.social
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Dear Anne: Bitch you were friends with Viktor Orban and Jarosław Kaczyński, shut the fuck up

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Capn Borscht's avatar Capn Borscht @capnborscht.bsky.social
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They really give it away with the television network bit. It's just money/content to them

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Kass G.'s avatar Kass G. @anarkass.bsky.social
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But Michael "Millions would watch. Politics would be interesting again." And you know that is true because someone who thinks the problem is politics is too *boring* now made it up!

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Russ Bengtson's avatar Russ Bengtson @russbengtson.bsky.social
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meanwhile the republicans can run an inveterate felon and cheat who tried to overthrow democracy once already, no worries!

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SueBreckenridge.bsky.social's avatar SueBreckenridge.bsky.social @suebreckenridge.bsky.social
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Not to mention the fact that in many states, it's too late to put someone else on the ballot, and Heritage has already said they're ready to go with lawsuits if the Democrats try to make a change

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Audi HD's avatar Audi HD @kh0rish.bsky.social
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I love how so many people in here are doing horserace bullshit. You would think with so much on the line yall could just…rally anyway and deal with “guy old” afterwards but naaah we gotta play games right NOW. Pretty clear none of it actually matters to you. Sounds about white

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They're bored. The primary was really boring this year and it was easy to tune out and not pay attention. They want it to be interesting. The actual stakes of the election don't really matter to them.

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Orpheus Condescending 's avatar Orpheus Condescending @maryscottoconnor.com
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Sheer fucking lunacy. And their buddies in the Democratic Party are being just as insane. MAYBE the media fuckheads could claim ignorance. The politicians have no such excuse. They know goddamned well if Biden drops out it's a guaranteed Trump victory. So WHAT THE FUCK.

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stoey's avatar stoey @stoey.bsky.social
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Do they know that it's too late to get on the ballot in some states and that the convention vote is basically just ceremonial this year? Seems like if you're putting forward your very clever opinion that you want people to take seriously you should know the most basic of facts about the situation.

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It's almost like they're trying to help the fascists.

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MonicaGoldberg's avatar MonicaGoldberg @monicagoldberg.bsky.social
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For those not wanting to click, this is Anne Applebaum.

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Bill Jank's avatar Bill Jank @billjank.bsky.social
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The part about “politics would be interesting” again especially galls me. Like, what’s not interesting about one of the major parties being openly fascist and planning to dismantle the organs of government if they get elected?

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Alex Bowles's avatar Alex Bowles @alexqgb.bsky.social
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"Politics would be interesting again" I'm sorry the looming collapse American democracy is boring you, an observer of American democracy.

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bobby (frociaggine) 's avatar bobby (frociaggine) @bobbylewis.bsky.social
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did karl rove write this?

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Martin Schneider's avatar Martin Schneider @wovenstrap.bsky.social
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No traps in there. No, siree bob.

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Matthew Frye's avatar Matthew Frye @purble.bsky.social
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I think the "Politics would be interesting again" is actually extremely telling. As far as I can tell as a non-US person, having both primaries being effectively uncontested has really screwed with a lot of political commentators, who just want *something* to happen for them to write about.

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andy facemire's avatar andy facemire @statsboyandi.bsky.social
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“Politics would be interesting again!”

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Dessel's avatar Dessel @dessel.bsky.social
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this is even worse than the open convention one bc at least that is less incentive for infighting and mostly dealt with in the back rooms

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The GOP house can refuse to let Harris pick a VP. They are already talking about that & lawsuits.

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ffs. If she thinks there's any sleepwalking here, she's not paying attention.

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Cersei Transnister's avatar Cersei Transnister @khatunjessicabeki.org
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Itd be great if we stopped listening to people who have never worked in politics.

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Jenne (she/her)'s avatar Jenne (she/her) @librarianjenne.bsky.social
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I worked with children like this when I was in TV news. They didn’t even know the mayor’s name and didn’t want to cover city council meetings because governance is “boring.”

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“Politics would be interesting again” really shows these dullards true North Star. The Trump show was fun! 😁 but now we’re jaded by his silly rapes and authoritarian antics 🙁 and Biden is so booooring😭😭 why not have a public clusterfuck so I can feel something again- err I mean, “save democracy”😉😂

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Arran's avatar Arran @arrannz.bsky.social
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Love to see Very Serious pundits argue that the answer is for the Democrats to fix up the old barn and put on a show to save the rec centre.

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I mean, fuck this article, but I think it's suicidal to run Biden at this point. Whatever chaos ensues after he steps down would still have a better result - imo - then running someone clearly unfit to run and serve. There's no possible replacement candidate that would be worse than Biden.

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Amusing that Applebaum doesn't have the courage to share this on Bluesky.

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yarrriv's avatar yarrriv @yarrriv.bsky.social
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it's an entire rerun of the Democratic primaries that nobody has done any prep work for, Michael, how long could it take, a month?

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Justin Stanley's avatar Justin Stanley @jdst258.bsky.social
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Ahh, Anne "Kill The Palestinian Journalists" Applebaum. How grimly predictable.

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Almost no difference between most political journalism and TV criticism at this point. “Is this a good idea” is primarily answered through the lens of “would people find it entertaining?”

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Zenodotus's avatar Zenodotus @zenodotus.bsky.social
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"Millions would watch"

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Lindsey Rosenthal's avatar Lindsey Rosenthal @eventsforgood.bsky.social
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"Politics would be interesting again" 🙄

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MrsMNash's avatar MrsMNash @mrsmnash.bsky.social
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Yellow journalist at their best 🙄

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Confirmed Professional Agitator's avatar Confirmed Professional Agitator @mumbly-joe.bsky.social
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"Politics would be interesting again" meanwhile I'm grappling with the fallout of last week's Chevron overrule for the FDA's efforts to ban an electric shock device used to torture disabled people. Politics is plenty "interesting"! You just want to cover it like sports.

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Confirmed Professional Agitator's avatar Confirmed Professional Agitator @mumbly-joe.bsky.social
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"Rerun the whole primary in 6 weeks" isn't that far off from "declare martial law, seize the election machines, and re-run the election" when you get right down to it.

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Vicki Meagher's avatar Vicki Meagher @vickimeagher.bsky.social
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Gosh! It’s disappointing to me that Anne Applebaum would write that.

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Cynbel Terreus's avatar Cynbel Terreus @cynbelterreus.bsky.social
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"Politics would be interesting again"... I don't think they know what interesting means, like holy shit the gall to be excited about this prospect when it's not like everything is on the fucking line with Trump.

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Bouba O'Kiki's avatar Bouba O'Kiki @bleary.bsky.social
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"Television networks would compete to show them" is hilarious on so many levels

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Kim's avatar Kim @kimoco.bsky.social
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Wild? I would choose another word. Damn the Atlantic

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Luca Salami's avatar Luca Salami @lucasalami.bsky.social
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I'm pretty sure Bernie bros are still tilted by the perception that the part prefered Hillary in 2016, but sure just muscle Biden out and there will be zero fallout from voters.

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Aria Underground, Roleplayer Without Portfolio's avatar Aria Underground, Roleplayer Without Portfolio @ariaunderground.bsky.social
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Yeah, the problem with politics right now is that it's not fucking interesting enough.

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Lin💎's avatar Lin💎 @klin.bsky.social
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More like ‘whoever promises the most political perks to the delegates’ wins. Voters chose Biden. This would disenfranchise them.

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BRAK AND BLUE's avatar BRAK AND BLUE @yinkadoubledare.bsky.social
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"Please give us content and ratings"

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That guy 's avatar That guy @chefesque.bsky.social
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They’re just begging for content. They don’t care about actual democracy, they just want lots of content to feed the hopper.

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Nora. In the big blue sky. Or whatever.🏳️‍⚧️'s avatar Nora. In the big blue sky. Or whatever.🏳️‍⚧️ @baroquebobcat.bsky.social
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This feels very, "please do this, *gestures at an empty table*, my page views, my ratings, I need them"

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KA SEMENOVA 's avatar KA SEMENOVA @kasemenova.bsky.social
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Holy shit I did not expect that be Applebaum. And I have no clue how to integrate this into my mental picture of her.

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To pretend the replacement should be anyone but Kamala Harris is insane, saying this as someone who doesn't like her. She's his vice president and is the obvious candidate, she's got twice the support of the next highest option in polling, she gets to keep his warchest, etc.

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Goldstein the Hon's avatar Goldstein the Hon @goldstein.bsky.social
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I just cannot emphasize enough how little interest Anne Applebaum has in helping the Democratic party.

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Ghost Bear ☮ 's avatar Ghost Bear ☮ @ghostbear077.bsky.social
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Maybe the Democratic Alliance would be saved, but Democracy would be lost.

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jaime's avatar jaime @jaimel.bsky.social
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I've been knowing Chait was a fool but I didn't know he dabbled in cowardice as well.

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Karen Zack's avatar Karen Zack @kjzack6.bsky.social
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Great thread and also thanks for the alt text.

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Rick Healey, man out of thyme's avatar Rick Healey, man out of thyme @twotothefifth.bsky.social
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When you care more about ratings than the country.

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flounder-ish's avatar flounder-ish @flounderish.bsky.social
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"make politics interesting again" where the fuck have they been the last decade while we've all been begging for politics to be BORING again

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Fuzzy Mike's avatar Fuzzy Mike @fuzzymike.bsky.social
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Ryan Crinnigan's avatar Ryan Crinnigan @spiritduplicator.bsky.social
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"politics would be interesting again." the banality of evil

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Tomato Szn's avatar Tomato Szn @bskylife.bsky.social
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"Millions would watch" is the giveaway here. Ratings are their actual concern.

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Courtney Shannon's avatar Courtney Shannon @cshannonpdx.bsky.social
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“Politics would be interesting again.” WTF

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Jon Luke vintage meme trust's avatar Jon Luke vintage meme trust @paperbagriker.fun
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But politics would be interesting again. We need to think of the pundits in times like these.

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HudsonRiverCroc's avatar HudsonRiverCroc @hudsonrivercroc.bsky.social
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The WH should only care to slam these clowns…

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Michael Hobbes's avatar Michael Hobbes @michaelhobbes.bsky.social
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Sticking with Biden or running Harris would be *far* less risky than dedicating two of the next four months to Democrat infighting, followed by an unprecedented delegate voting process and dubious chances of even getting on the ballot. Knowing this shit is supposed to be these people's job

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Kevin James's avatar Kevin James @kmj.bsky.social
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Have we ruled out the possibility that these people simply want Trump to win and this is just a strikingly flimsy pretense to appear like they don’t?

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Thanks for saying what is so obvious. These folks are really telling on themselves and not in a good way.

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Lester Sabotage's avatar Lester Sabotage @lesabot.bsky.social
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Needs a "physical challenge" component

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Michael Clark's avatar Michael Clark @smintheus.bsky.social
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Who you gonna trust, your pundit's fickle interest or your lying primary vote?

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Katiesaurus 's avatar Katiesaurus @katiesaurus.bsky.social
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Ah yes, one of the Harper's letter signers!

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Charm City Slicker (56-32)'s avatar Charm City Slicker (56-32) @sprawlhater.bsky.social
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"politics would be interesting again" personally I think America's politics are far too interesting right now. I would love them to be boring!

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Dan of La Mancha's avatar Dan of La Mancha @knitdan.bsky.social
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Kind of giving the game away that what they really want is a lot of stories that write themselves every week from now until the election

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Toss's avatar Toss @stevenspoints.bsky.social
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I fail to see any point whatsoever in having debates and town halls for the public when the public isn’t the group that is voting.

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Ed Burmila's avatar Ed Burmila @edburmila.bsky.social
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“Here’s a crazy idea I came up with after thinking about it for maybe 45 minutes, any way forward other than this is suicidal“

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botany's avatar botany @botany.bsky.social
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"politics would be interesting again" uhhhh ?????????????

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Aubrey Gilleran's avatar Aubrey Gilleran @aubreygilleran.bsky.social
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A turbulent summer! That's what you want to see!

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Rob of the Sky's avatar Rob of the Sky @robofthesky.bsky.social
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They said the quiet part out loud.

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Brooke Pierce's avatar Brooke Pierce @bpie7.bsky.social
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These people are so stupid, it hurts. We had a 2020 Dem primary season just like this, and guess what? In the end it came down to the same two guys who had been polling at the top the entire time! Name recognition is everything.

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TwoWheelsDC 's avatar TwoWheelsDC @twowheelsdc.bsky.social
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did an Aaron Sorkin character write this

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Picklefish's avatar Picklefish @picklefish.bsky.social
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Any "political journalist" that doesn't know that the deadline for the DNC to officially nominate a candidate is actually August 7th (not the 19th) should sit down, shut their mouth, and probably start looking for a new career.

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Max Kennerly's avatar Max Kennerly @maxkennerly.bsky.social
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To decide the nominee, Democrats should play a game of Dungeons & Dragons—in 40 two-hour-long segments televised at 3am—with Bill Maher as the dungeon master. I am a savvy political commentator.

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Elizabeth Spiers 's avatar Elizabeth Spiers @espiers.bsky.social
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Wishful thinking

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Malaclypse the Middle's avatar Malaclypse the Middle @malaclypse.bsky.social
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Gonna go out on a limb and posit that maybe, just maybe, Yascha Mounk does not have the best interests of the Democrats as his highest priority.

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Kevin's avatar Kevin @kevinfoy.bsky.social
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Biden is a politically weak candidate made weaker (at least momentarily) by a concerning debate performance…and it’s too late for the Democrats to do anything but stick with him. How is there any other angle here?

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J Clary: Yesferatu's avatar J Clary: Yesferatu @iloveredrobot.bsky.social
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Let's destroy the party, BUT FOR RATINGS!

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Chairman Lay's avatar Chairman Lay @chairmanlay.bsky.social
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They are treating this like it's a goddamn show!!! They are thinking about their ratings!!!!!!!

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Karen Skelton's avatar Karen Skelton @karenskelton.bsky.social
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Wait, wut? Anne Applebaum wrote this? Historian, scholar, journalist Anne Applebaum thinks we need more entertainment and...ratings for the DNC? 😧

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Chris McNeil's avatar Chris McNeil @chrismcneil.bsky.social
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oh it's her again

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Inception's avatar Inception @theprestige.bsky.social
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Journalism died under Trump. They still can not bring themselves to see that they are, in fact, siding with fascism.

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thorsepus 's avatar thorsepus @mariusthorsen.no
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Like... isn't there supposed to be a democratic process to decide who will be the candidate for president?

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I would like one of these writers to do some research on what it would take! E.g. they have to submit their candidate to Ohio before the convention

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Billy 🇵🇸❤️🌈🕊's avatar Billy 🇵🇸❤️🌈🕊 @jesterthejedi.bsky.social
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Made up bullshitttttt! Dumpster Fire Party is in full burn. Just watch it go down. Republicunts (uniparty) are next…

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Michael Kaplan 's avatar Michael Kaplan @differance.bsky.social
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Applebaum is hardly a horserace journalist. She may be wrong, but that's not the reason.

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Fergus 's avatar Fergus @ferguswalsh.bsky.social
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www.publicnotice.co/p/biden-deba...

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scott's avatar scott @stahl.bsky.social
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"time to roll the dice", suggests person with nothing material to lose

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Izzy Seabiscuit's avatar Izzy Seabiscuit @ijspurcell.bsky.social
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everybody knows the best way to run against Donald Trump is to make sure the public sees as little of him as possible

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Sagittarius A*'s avatar Sagittarius A* @sagastar.bsky.social
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weird how you don't see half these things about the adjudicated rapist

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🐈‍⬛🦋🎨CherylBlueWave🏖 🪷🌊🇺🇦's avatar 🐈‍⬛🦋🎨CherylBlueWave🏖 🪷🌊🇺🇦 @cherylbluewave.bsky.social
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Wackadoodles

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Travis Dawry's avatar Travis Dawry @tdawry.bsky.social
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Down ballot Democrats are rightly worried, but they don't have a play beyond putting Harris up. It's worth remembering that many in the media, including almost all of The Atlantic and even most MSNBC hosts, desperately want another Trump term, and will do what they have to do.

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David Bikman's avatar David Bikman @bikman.bsky.social
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Staying with Biden is now the most suicidal option. We will lose all 3 branches simultaneously.

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TomNookYankees's avatar TomNookYankees @tomnookyankees.bsky.social
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So why aren’t you putting more blame on the DNC for insisting on letting a clearly weak Biden go for a second term?

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media want fascism to win

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The Silvered Spherical Ideal Median Voter 's avatar The Silvered Spherical Ideal Median Voter @swolecialism.bsky.social
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anne fucking applebaum. anne fucking "why did my nice centrist anti-communist dinner party guests all turn out to be nazis" applebaum.

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They only read half of the political history of 1968, and apparently thought "nah, this'll end great." Maybe having a political and journalistic class that can't let go of anything pre Watergate is kinda maybe biting us in the ass a little bit.

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@RealJiaTan's avatar @RealJiaTan @20goto10.xyz
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its impossible not to read this in Peter's saying-the-dumbest-thing-in-the-world-with-a-smug-grin voice

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TLPete's avatar TLPete @absurdbeats.bsky.social
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There was a great piece a few years ago on the temptations of the savvy.

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sgt. FKA Otter Papa Jr FKA peezky weezky aka Pete the Killa 's avatar sgt. FKA Otter Papa Jr FKA peezky weezky aka Pete the Killa @peezkyweezky.bsky.social
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Okay but political suicide would be so engaging! Millions would watch!

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Jacob's avatar Jacob @jgsimmerman.bsky.social
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"Politics would be interesting again." Nobody outside of the media wants this. That's why Trump remains unpopular to this day. People want to not have to think about any of this and have everything just run smoothly.

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Kevin Gannon 's avatar Kevin Gannon @thetattooedprof.bsky.social
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Getting high on their own supply

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Nolan Zugernat's avatar Nolan Zugernat @zugernat.bsky.social
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what a dumbfuck

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a bowl of petunias's avatar a bowl of petunias @ohnonotagain.bsky.social
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It would be wonderful… for horserace journalists. I think, very often, about the CEO who said that Trump would be bad for the country, but good for CBS.

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Ben Alpers's avatar Ben Alpers @benalpers.bsky.social
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aha....it's Anne Applebaum! Applebaum supported the Iraq War (Never trust a supporter of the Iraq War.) She also signed the Harper's Letter and backed the moral panic about the supposedly intolerant left it encouraged. These are both key indicators of not knowing how things work.

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Helen/Tina/Boob Punch's avatar Helen/Tina/Boob Punch @tinavstammy.bsky.social
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It's altogether too goddamn interesting now I'd like a lot more boring in my politics please

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Gene Penise's avatar Gene Penise @genepenise.bsky.social
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This is Sim City Politics

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maraleia's avatar maraleia @maraleia.bsky.social
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Ann Applebaum can go fuck herself.

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Buttadeus's avatar Buttadeus @thewanderingjew.bsky.social
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"Politics would be interesting again!" Yes, we'd all be riveted by a town hall with Pete Buttigieg and Kamala Harris arguing about the national debt or whatever happens at these things.

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It's naive to think GOP run states would even allow another candidate on the ballot. This is an asine idea at best

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R2G2.bsky.social's avatar R2G2.bsky.social @r2g2.bsky.social
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“Politics would be interesting again”, first when did it stop being interesting? I yearn to live in a more boring time. Second, that is entirely not the point of whether or not Biden should be the nominee

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Exit South's avatar Exit South @exitsouth.bsky.social
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trying to picture a real person who exists who thinks politics needs to be "interesting" "again"

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Jennifer Van Goethem's avatar Jennifer Van Goethem @jennvg.bsky.social
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Coming from the Pulizter winner who famously covers rising autocracy in Europe, this is some pretty grim brain worms.

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Jennifer Van Goethem's avatar Jennifer Van Goethem @jennvg.bsky.social
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Just heard E. Bruenig being interviewed on all this and I'm just like why?

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The Chillennial's avatar The Chillennial @thechillennial.bsky.social
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"what if the democrats had a charity boxing match? what if they put biden in a hangglider? what if Biden crashed the opening of Monday Night Raw? How about a hamburger eating contest? Hello look at me, I write for the Atlantic and make more in a year than you do in five, I am very interesting!"

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Anguirus's avatar Anguirus @anguirus.bsky.social
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THE ARTICLE IS CALLED “TIME TO ROLL THE DICE” THEY CAN’T EVEN *PRETEND* IT’S NOT A GAME TO THEM AAAAAH

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Pebble's avatar Pebble @cloacadentata.bsky.social
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The main reason Democrats won't hold an emergency primary is the same reason they didn't really have a regular primary this year: it would mean the possibility of a leftist President, which they consider to be a worse outcome than Trump.

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MaggieKat's avatar MaggieKat @maggiekat.bsky.social
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I never understood what people applauded Applebaum for. To me, she has always come off as advocating for a very rigid foreign policy & status quo domestic policy to maintain that foreign policy she prefers. Makes me wonder if she thinks Biden is about to go soft on the foreign policy she prefers

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Especially since they haven't even done the research to know the Aug19 convention is NOT where the nomination happens this year, due to state bullshit

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mynnna's avatar mynnna @mynnna.bsky.social
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“Politics would be interesting again” anyone citing this as a reason for, frankly, almost anything, should be shot into the fucking sun.

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Ben Munson's avatar Ben Munson @archaica.bsky.social
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"politics would be interesting again" oh get bent

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Jeff McMahon's avatar Jeff McMahon @jeffmcmahon.bsky.social
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They’ve completely assimilated “good for ratings” into “good for the country”.

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Zig Zag Wanderer's avatar Zig Zag Wanderer @zigzagwanderer.bsky.social
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Good lord that is a gobsmackingly dumb passage

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Kameron Hurley's avatar Kameron Hurley @kameronhurley.bsky.social
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This is an amazing fantasy world this person is living in.

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