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Kevin M. Kruse

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Not making any threats here, just thinking out loud as a historian — do they people brazenly pushing for impunity for the wealthy elites not know what traditionally comes next?

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malakim2099's avatar malakim2099 @malakim2099.bsky.social
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Sage's avatar Sage @gleaningsage.bsky.social
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As a non-historian, I kind of wonder how likely eg North Korea or Turkmenistan is, versus French Revolution. In fact, a revolution with a decent outcome seems more of a fluke than many many examples of authoritarian dictatorships lasting decades or even centuries.

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Porter's avatar Porter @porter79.bsky.social
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Cake. HEAVY SLICES.😉

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Bobbie Bees's avatar Bobbie Bees @bobbiegarnet.bsky.social
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Didn't France go through a period like this..........

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D_Girl's avatar D_Girl @dgirl.bsky.social
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Great point, Kevin. I agree that every wealthy elite who has supported the genocide of the Palestinians should be put on trial for war crimes

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Coriolus Nimrod's avatar Coriolus Nimrod @coriolusn.bsky.social
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I think it will all be fine as long as people can effectively seek redress through the ordinary political process. Nobody has done anything to interfere with that, right?

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Mike Boylan-Kolchin's avatar Mike Boylan-Kolchin @mbkplus.bsky.social
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The rising tide lifts all boats?!?

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alchemist_x🌻's avatar alchemist_x🌻 @alchemist-x.bsky.social
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I keep wondering when the torches and pitchforks will come out, and I keep coming to the conclusion that, if they haven't already, then probably never.

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i'm just patrick, deep down's avatar i'm just patrick, deep down @ouisequitur.bsky.social
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cake...?

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William A Owen's avatar William A Owen @williamaowen.bsky.social
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My guess is most don’t, and the ones who do know think it’ll never happen to them.

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Chris Broome's avatar Chris Broome @cabroome.bsky.social
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Yeah, but that kinda thing may take centuries to come to fruition. Their great great grandchildren should look out though…

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I'm not sure but I think someone gets to hang upside down

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Azure Raphael's avatar Azure Raphael @trai70.bsky.social
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They don't believe it will happen to THEM. They're accustomed to pre-internet fog-of-war immunity where a sleazy operative could make a backroom deal and be functionally anonymous.

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Traveller In Black's avatar Traveller In Black @traveller-in-black.bsky.social
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Why am I getting visions of that old movie with Madame LaFarge and her knitting needles?

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Foxhack / Dave Silva's avatar Foxhack / Dave Silva @foxhack.bsky.social
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You expect something like that to happen? *In America?*

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VFXpapa's avatar VFXpapa @vfxpapa.bsky.social
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They don’t. They really really don’t.

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marythetrainer🦋🐢🤷🏻‍♀️😏🌎's avatar marythetrainer🦋🐢🤷🏻‍♀️😏🌎 @marythetrainer.bsky.social
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Survival of the Richest by Douglas Rushkoff. You’d think it would be ultimately cheaper to just pay taxes. The rest of us are pretty sure we don’t want to live in a world holed up behind bars—even a luxurious prison is still a prison.

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Bad Carl Rodgers 's avatar Bad Carl Rodgers @xcarlxrogersx.bsky.social
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Correct, they do not know what traditionally comes next. What they hope comes next is that people who don't think like them get hurt

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pkwilde's avatar pkwilde @pkwilde.bsky.social
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You mean like the French Revolution or the Gilded Age?

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Darren Mart 's avatar Darren Mart @darrenmart.bsky.social
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If only Americans had the collective fortitude exhibited in 18th-century France. They might still have it deep down, but it won't come out until something critical is taken away. Like wifi.

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Ulrich - „nuke from orbit - only way to be sure.“'s avatar Ulrich - „nuke from orbit - only way to be sure.“ @blueshift24.bsky.social
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They‘ll sell us the rope we‘ll hang them with. 😁

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Ulrich - „nuke from orbit - only way to be sure.“'s avatar Ulrich - „nuke from orbit - only way to be sure.“ @blueshift24.bsky.social
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Heads, spikes? Good news for rope traders?

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Kermit D's avatar Kermit D @krmtdfrog.bsky.social
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I've been saying this for a long time. The way grievances used to be addressed involved dragging the lord from his manor and beating him severely in front of his family. It's only in modern times that we've permitted things like union negotiations and such to usurp this method.

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DTwyman's avatar DTwyman @dtwyman.bsky.social
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I think you may also need to be able to afford million dollar vacations and motorhomes but that's just me spitballing.

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wholesome family entertainment

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Tinselfire's avatar Tinselfire @tinselfire.bsky.social
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Considering the wealthy elite of our age don't have the forethought or sense of culture to build megaliths or commission anything of lasting value, it looks like we're skipping the fun intermission and going straight to the "peasants in suicidal revolt against their samurai masters" stage.

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Steel Rat Gamer's avatar Steel Rat Gamer @steelrat.bsky.social
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Guillotines?

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Rae's avatar Rae @alsorae.bsky.social
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Chippity choppity!

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lol And here I was just painfully remembering the fiasco due to bank deregulation.

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TurtleBee's avatar TurtleBee @turtlebee.bsky.social
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Traditionally they rule for generations and occasionally have to kill a bunch of rioting peasants.

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CoffeeShopRabbi's avatar CoffeeShopRabbi @rruth.bsky.social
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I've been wondering the same thing for a while. I want to ask the billionaires and wannabes if they've ever heard of the French Revolution.

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Woe, Chicken Be Upon You's avatar Woe, Chicken Be Upon You @saffronstranger.bsky.social
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But the wealthy elite promised if we gave them impunity we'd get a shiny nickel

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Faine Greenwood's avatar Faine Greenwood @faineg.bsky.social
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The GOP sure seems to be interested in playing chicken with this

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Try the Brie, it’s American Cheese Month!'s avatar Try the Brie, it’s American Cheese Month! @briansmith.pro
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They’re assuming when it gets down to brass tacks that the highly militarized police forces are going to put down the rebellion

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Fat Apollo's avatar Fat Apollo @fatapollo.bsky.social
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I'm buying EVERY kid I know this for x-mas

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DavidNelsonNM's avatar DavidNelsonNM @davidnelsonnm.bsky.social
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If we were all brilliant at history we wouldn’t need brilliant historians. Much, anyways.

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Alex Merz's avatar Alex Merz @merz.bsky.social
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A revolution where they end up in charge again?

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Armando Bayolo 's avatar Armando Bayolo @armandobayolo.bsky.social
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Liberté, egalité, fraternité?

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Aeronaute's avatar Aeronaute @aeronaute.bsky.social
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Guillotines are such an antique device. Surely our age have moved past those.

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Comfortably Numb's avatar Comfortably Numb @numb.comfortab.ly
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Fun fact: AI can be useful sometimes. bsky.app/profile/numb...

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David Weingart's avatar David Weingart @dbw.bsky.social
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3-400 years of unfettered aristocracy?

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Mayor of the Moon's avatar Mayor of the Moon @moonmayor.bsky.social
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Robin Hood knew what to do

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Eric's avatar Eric @robopeppers.bsky.social
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They think technology will protect them.

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Pwnallthethings's avatar Pwnallthethings @pwnallthethings.bsky.social
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gets the mayo all messy, to put it in bluesky terms

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Mithos's avatar Mithos @mithos343.bsky.social
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"And this time, our rule will be locked in and permanent" - people throughout history, various times/places, all of whom were dead wrong

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Lordkeynes does the monster mash's avatar Lordkeynes does the monster mash @lordkeynes42.bsky.social
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No they have not studied history. Honestly bet most cheater I the history classes in college if they had to take the..

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 Kait Richardson 's avatar Kait Richardson @qirenni.com
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Chippity-chop

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Alex B's avatar Alex B @alexdesignsit.bsky.social
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I think about this *all the time* Like did they not learn about how the guillotine came into use as a direct result of skyrocketing wealth inequality????

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81's avatar 81 @81horses.bsky.social
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Nick Hanauer calls it ‘pitchfork economics’. He’s been sounding this alert for years now. Eat the rich — they’re delicious!

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Stuart Watt's avatar Stuart Watt @morungos.bsky.social
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Massacres come next, and to be honest, I think they’re quite looking forward to that part. They might not have planned fully for what comes after the massacres, though.

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Frickin Dude..'s avatar Frickin Dude.. @frickin-dude.bsky.social
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Time to start a hog farm.

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Cath RN, PhD's avatar Cath RN, PhD @headdoc35.bsky.social
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Not historically accurate but… it fits

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Megaweapon's avatar Megaweapon @megaweapon5.bsky.social
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I dunno, Kevin. I see Russia in the future. Or at least that’s the plan from the right.

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ricky cilantro's avatar ricky cilantro @rickycilantro.bsky.social
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“this time is different.”

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Many elites who push for fascism end up "facing the wall" by the very people they supported. You think they would know this danger but alas.

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derek's avatar derek @derek.bsky.social
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The so-called “originalists” on the court have never had a particularly strong grasp of history. Their whole approach is one of the greatest frauds perpetuated in the last half century.

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Kelly “Town House Cracker” McGonigal's avatar Kelly “Town House Cracker” McGonigal @kellysmcgonigal.bsky.social
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Thus all the bunkers and fortresses.

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Paddyboy's avatar Paddyboy @hodag1977.bsky.social
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Maybe Uncle Clarence could get a taste of that cruel & unusual punishment he’s so very fond of🪓🔪

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guillotines

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Tenar Arha, 🌻's avatar Tenar Arha, 🌻 @datenar.bsky.social
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I think that’s partly why they’re building these— www.vice.com/en/article/e...

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www.politico.com/magazine/sto...

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Stephanie J. Lahey PhD's avatar Stephanie J. Lahey PhD @sjlahey.bsky.social
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They know perfectly well — hence the funds spent on developing robot attack dogs and android cops (they needn’t worry about those turning on them and siding with the populace).

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RTOIT's avatar RTOIT @rtoit.bsky.social
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They are counting on it. It is why they are arming MAGA militias. They want a military coup.

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Matt Jordan's avatar Matt Jordan @mattjord.bsky.social
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Plutocracy?

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Joseph O's avatar Joseph O @josepho.bsky.social
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I expect to make a killing with my guillotine investments.

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This needs to be a - maybe THE - point of emphasis over the next four months: that Trump's Supreme Court has taken your right to choose, poisoned your water, dirtied your air, tainted your food, made your workplace more deadly, flooded your streets with guns, diluted your vote, and legalized bribery

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Chris Warren's avatar Chris Warren @christian-s-warren.bsky.social
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Hard cases make bad law. Trump is a very hard case, so this all makes sense.

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the clay (né sports despair / hobbies guy)'s avatar the clay (né sports despair / hobbies guy) @theclay.xyz
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they just think they are built different

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Walter IV's avatar Walter IV @walteriv.bsky.social
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Dunno, but Ron Desantis was a history major so there’s that.

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Raven Onthill's avatar Raven Onthill @ravenonthill.bsky.social
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They literally can't imagine.

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My Bad's avatar My Bad @mbayayangu.bsky.social
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Let them ... Eat The Rich

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They’ve forgotten. But they’ll be reminded soon.

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Full Metal Hildegard's avatar Full Metal Hildegard @karanslade.bsky.social
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Thinking out loud as a theologian, if you feel you need flaming moats and water cannons to protect yourself from your neighbors, maybe you need to re-evaluate a whole raft of your life choices.

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Estarianne's avatar Estarianne @estarianne.bsky.social
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They argue that this isn't actually a thing.

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Warhammerchick's avatar Warhammerchick @celticdragon1.bsky.social
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That's why they need massively militarized police who actively despise and mock most of society. They are counting on them to make examples of enough of the rest of us..

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Alex P's avatar Alex P @alexpi.bsky.social
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5-10% of the population is lost?

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Yet Another Emily's avatar Yet Another Emily @anomily.bsky.social
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“Surely this time will different,” they whisper to themselves after letting the nanny know that her French verb conjugation lessons are not up to snuff. She WILL NOT be the reason that Chapman does not get into the right preschool.

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Evo Daily's avatar Evo Daily @evodaily.bsky.social
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No. No they don't. Ignorance includes not being able to understand something unless it happens to you personally. History isn't a great tool for learning, if it's knowledge is never learned.

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The Almighty Tallest 's avatar The Almighty Tallest @spooknine.bsky.social
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My long position on tumbrel futures will finally pay off!

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Teresa R.'s avatar Teresa R. @teresarobinson.bsky.social
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potato doritos's avatar potato doritos @potato-doritos.bsky.social
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if I'm on the Supreme Court I'm thinking a condo and a car. Maybe a vacation

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West Coast Chick's avatar West Coast Chick @welcome2absurdia.bsky.social
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Will they get to eat cake?

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Gregory Pijanowski's avatar Gregory Pijanowski @gpijanowski.bsky.social
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Used to be you'd learn that from Blockbusters: www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0iA...

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Wudang96 💜🌻's avatar Wudang96 💜🌻 @wudang96.bsky.social
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IRL for me. If you can't pay for a lawyer, you get screwed over by the law and the wealthy elites walk away with the spoils. The wealthy elites already have impunity. I don't like what comes next.

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Robespierre, n’importe qui?

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Aaron Homer's avatar Aaron Homer @ahomer.bsky.social
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I don't know if the implications of that work out well for us: right now, there is a much stronger contemporary right wing tradition of extra-legal violence, while at the same time, LE is primed to come down much harder on even weak signs of left wing violence (e.g. protests).

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Frank Lynch's avatar Frank Lynch @fplynch.bsky.social
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Someone knits?

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James Schmeling's avatar James Schmeling @jschmeling.bsky.social
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It’s something I think about regularly. So far most regular people haven’t been impacted in ways they notice. Or they misdirect their anger. But when they figure it out there is a lot less ability to stop what would be a lot of instability, threat of violence, or outright conflict. Worrisome.

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Dead Weirdo Studios's avatar Dead Weirdo Studios @deadweirdostudios.bsky.social
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I mean, last time a president made a handful of concessions to the working class specifically to keep that from happening a bunch of rich industrialists got together and tried to kill him for it so… no, I don’t think they get what’s going on there at all.

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Lex. #ProfessorLex.'s avatar Lex. #ProfessorLex. @lexkuhne.bsky.social
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Those who refuse to learn from history are telling us they want to repeat it.

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Torr Leonard 🧵's avatar Torr Leonard 🧵 @torrleonard.bsky.social
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“not know what traditionally comes next?” They know, but they believe they’ll be on the side doing the hurting.

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Charming Primaries's avatar Charming Primaries @charming.bsky.social
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First against the wall?

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David in Spanish (Dahveed)'s avatar David in Spanish (Dahveed) @davitivan.bsky.social
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They do know and they want it

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Dmitri's avatar Dmitri @momus.bsky.social
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A great deal of misery for the most vulnerable. People forget just how awful things were in the Great Depression before we saw any meaningful change. They're banking on a high pain threshold.

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Ellen Thompson's avatar Ellen Thompson @reallymrst.bsky.social
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William Jennings Bryan?

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Fellow.Traveler | Kevin 's avatar Fellow.Traveler | Kevin @kevwi.bsky.social
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More Bruce Lee please. Less Ruby Rhod.

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Stationkeeper's avatar Stationkeeper @signalthirteen.bsky.social
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I think it involves a blacksmith, a carpenter, and some really sturdy hemp or a really sturdy basket.

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Boolean Operator's avatar Boolean Operator @booleanoperator.bsky.social
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Eat the Rich !

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iquanyin 's avatar iquanyin @iquanyin.bsky.social
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it might be a different ballgame now tho. tech might tip the balance from sheer numbers to “we have drones and a sleek domestic thug force seemed with actual war stuff.” hard to say. i’ve thought what you say for decades, but lately i wonder if it still holds.

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LisaJo's avatar LisaJo @lisajo.bsky.social
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I think I’ve posted my pin photo two or three times in the past couple months. Always a good choice …

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Anne's avatar Anne @deweycat.bsky.social
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A la Guillotine, if I recall my 18th C French History correctly...

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Jason Jong's avatar Jason Jong @plesiomorphy.bsky.social
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The entire right wing media apparatus seems oriented to redirect anything in that direction. If people can believe in prosperity gospel nonsense, then the rich are probably safe for now.

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Just change the name of the Sup. Ct to the Plutocrat Protection Review Board, and have the 6 Rs swap their robes for blazers with dollar signs on the lapels

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c______z's avatar c______z @boshyboo.bsky.social
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Not making any threats here just hoping in public, personally 🙏

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Jay Marose's avatar Jay Marose @jaymarose.bsky.social
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Its not the peasants that stink on ice! Pull!

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NeoTiamat's avatar NeoTiamat @neotiamat99.bsky.social
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I used to wonder this about McConnell et al. They play games to weaken the system, but the system is also the source of their power. If things really do break, the blue areas have more people, more money, and I suspect the support of the military. It's sawing off the branch you're sitting on.

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Rumpole the Brief's avatar Rumpole the Brief @rumpole-brief.bsky.social
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They are counting on the usual mob of conservative rurals who rally round the aristos to protect them from the guillotine. That may not work in Paris but in the Vendee... Red hats are the new Catholic and Royal Army.

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Hipster Sasquatch's avatar Hipster Sasquatch @hipstersasquatch.bsky.social
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Americans have spent so long having our growing stress, despair, and anger intentionally misdirected towards marginalized groups, that I'm not sure what it would take, exactly, for this to change. If it ever does, though, the whole country would basically explode into violent chaos.

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Brendon's avatar Brendon @3662brendon.bsky.social
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Technology offers the ability to scale up surveillance, torture, and mass murder beyond anything that has ever existed in history. If Israel didn't already exist they'd have to invent it.

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Casey Wagner's avatar Casey Wagner @cannibal.holiday
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That's why they've done everything they can to make it harder by militarizing the police.

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Eric Brandom's avatar Eric Brandom @ebrandom.bsky.social
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In the US, generally, what comes next is many happy years of continued impunity.

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LaMinx's avatar LaMinx @laminx.bsky.social
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They think they will somehow escape this time. A few of the billionaires may escape (which is why they are building bunkers), but won’t find anyone to “serve” them willingly (terrifying to think what their plan is for this). So, natch, us proles will take it out on the 1st collaborators we can find.

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fforw's avatar fforw @fforw.bsky.social
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Um.. I'm actually not sure what you mean. Are we talking about fascism or guillotines?

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Hayward 's avatar Hayward @hgwood.bsky.social
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Oh now surely you can see how neglected the study of history has become? Everywhere I look it seems to me that people have the recollection of gnats.

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Julia S.'s avatar Julia S. @booktweeting.bsky.social
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does it rhyme with “schmillotine”?

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Jerry Newmark's avatar Jerry Newmark @jerryn13.bsky.social
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Time to go long on pitchforks, torches and tumbrels?

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Tío Coño's avatar Tío Coño @tiocono.bsky.social
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Don't mind me, just loading up the tumbril with torches and pitchforks.

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Nathan Kalmoe (he/him)'s avatar Nathan Kalmoe (he/him) @nathankalmoe.bsky.social
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I’d like to think the rich treat each other just as disposable for a buck as they do the rest of us.

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Vezsie's avatar Vezsie @vezsie.bsky.social
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As an anthropologist I'll just say, you really don't want to know the details of what happened to that chimp that hoarded all the bananas.

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LilithLiberated 's avatar LilithLiberated @lilithliberated.bsky.social
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No. They do not

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Jennifer Van Goethem's avatar Jennifer Van Goethem @jennvg.bsky.social
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Perhaps we should check in with the Russian oligarchs and see how they’re loving life. Or perhaps just let them eat cake.

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Will "Bones" Baggins's avatar Will "Bones" Baggins @wastubbs.bsky.social
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What consequences should they be fearing? Espousing dumbshit ideas hasn't traditionally carried a lot of risk, afaik?

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Loonathan's avatar Loonathan @halcyonloon.bsky.social
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That's why I think they're building doomsday bunkers, instead of making the barest attempt to improve their surroundings. Hopefully we get to the chopin' soon, lest we end up with our own version of the Late Bronze Age collapse.

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Jymbo's avatar Jymbo @smurfmasterjym.bsky.social
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Let's all go ask the Romanovs ....

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Alan Neff's avatar Alan Neff @alanneff.bsky.social
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"Ken, I'll take 'What are 'tumbrels?' for $500."

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Thanks For Sharing, Jerk's avatar Thanks For Sharing, Jerk @thx4sharingjerk.bsky.social
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I’ve been asking myself the same question about local election-denying politicians who live in our neighborhoods

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Mitchie's Mom@marianherra.bsky.social's avatar Mitchie's Mom@marianherra.bsky.social @marianherra.bsky.social
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I always think of the red vs white scene in Dr. Zhivago.

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Will never happen in the US. Wish we'd stop saying that it will

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Chris in SF's avatar Chris in SF @chrismsf.bsky.social
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Soon Trump will send every American a portion of cake

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Franticee 🟧💙🌊's avatar Franticee 🟧💙🌊 @franticee.bsky.social
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It just needs to happen. Finally.

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