oh my god now there's a "future of prison" startup that says it will use AI and brain implants to plant fake memories into the brains of criminals, "rehabilitating" them in minutes instead of years and I am going to spend the rest of the day screaming now
Ethics aside, this is nonsense, they have zero of the technology to actually implement any aspect of this, they may as well found a startup to use AI to make monkeys fly out of my ass
also what for profit prison corporation is interested in this kind of turnaround if it were even possible (which it isnt) or ethical (which it wouldnt be)
EVEN IF the technology 1) existed and 2) worked, I’m pretty sure literally every example of this tech in science fiction has been like “Yeah, this is how prisons in dystopias are set up, because it’s actually torture and almost always goes wrong.”
"creative scientist" is the first red flag and it's right in the first sentence. This guy Hashem Al-Ghaili's whole schtick is science-flavored short vids, right?
Everyone is comparing this to the DS9 episode Hard Time when they should be comparing it to the VOY episode Ex Post Facto, which is a much closer match to what this startup is pitching. I won’t take this Voyager erasure!
Hells bells! I am rereading Woman on the Edge of Time by Marge Piercy for the first time in many years, and this is literally what it is about. Except they are doing it in a mental institution. Torment Nexus indeed.
the good news is this doesn't appear to be a company, just some dude who makes insane videos and fake? press releases? as promos for his videos? The bad news is wow his videos are EXTREMELY insane
I feel no obligation to listen to VC AI bullshit. It's frustrating because there's really interesting stuff to be talking about, but no we hear every gory detail of the Clippy phase of a new technology.
Maybe I can get one that will plant fake memories of years and years and years of observing human foibles and coming to a clear conclusion about why humans keep doing so much stupid ass shit like this
What I don't quite understand are the people financially backing them. They're the real rubes, right? "Yeah we can implant memories. That's a technology that's real." Them: "Really? Here's a billion dollars."
This whole company is obviously making shit up and selling snake oil, but also it is important for everyone to understand that it is morally good to set fire to this company's headquarters
Richard Condon “When I wrote The Manchurian Candidate, I intended it as a warning.”
Tech-Bros “We are delighted to announce we are working on a product inspired by The Manchurian Candidate. “
For serious though, there should be a "no AI in criminal justice" law immediately. This sci-fi stuff is PR packaging of more insidious ideas like automated sentencing.
Jesus Christ, everyone here referencing DS9 and BLACK MIRROR, like they had the idea.
Doc Savage was doing this bit approximately a hundred years ago.
This isn't even about recycling sci-fi tropes, it's about literal pulp morality.
Jesus Fucking Christ.
The slim ray of hope I'm feeling is that I've had to read and write copy for projects seeking funding*, and this reeks of that prose style.
It's very slim, that ray of hope.
*TOTALLY DIFFERENT KINDS OF PROJECTS FROM THIS ONE
I've had existential crisis inducing nightmares about this concept. I'm sure this is fine and won't go horribly wrong in any way. As everyone knows the US criminal justice system is perfect and incapable of making mistakes or doing harm... Right?
According to the original Daily Mail article, this is a short film by a molecular biologist-turned-filmmaker and “science communicator.” He has a few SF shorts to his credit and this is the latest. It’s not a start-up, it’s an attempt to go viral with a Black Mirror fan film. hashem-alghaili.com
Literally one of the most creepy aspects of the 1930s "Doc Savage" pulps was that he "rehabilitated" bad guys by "surgically erasing past memories" and retraining them from scratch. This is essentially the same invasive procedure.
Tech Bros: Get ideas from science fiction.
Also tech bros: Totally forget that science fiction decided that this was a Very Bad Idea.
* Babylon 5 literally did this plot 30 years ago!
I appreciate that these tech fascists aren't even bothering to pretend that they are making a product they hope people will use voluntarily.
They are just skipping to selling it as state forced fascist brain programming.
State prison administration as it intersects with the private sector is so corrupt that the backers of this venture are probably right that they'll be able to grift a lot of money.
I see that @greatdismal.bsky.social hasn’t been on in 4 months and if/when he ever comes back it’s just going to be a mountain of notifications of him being tagged about news like this
One thing I fully support is that it says they’re going to collect information from prisoners’ brains to find out why people commit crimes. Hopefully we can finally understand precisely the mechanism by which the devil inserts evil thoughts into our minds on a neuronal level
love how headlines now always state impossible things as if they exist and work as promised
New Unicorn Method Cures All Diseases
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Prison which they are wholly convinced they will never be in, then one day ... they will be so very indignant, saying: "I didn't mean me!" Oh, hi, SBF.
The founder is a YouTuber with a masters degree. I do not think this is a serious idea, this looks like a press release republishing site. I don’t know if it’s even been funded?
Why is a completely imaginary science-fiction scheme with no evidence to back it up, indeed no experimental background more advanced than Musk’s extremely dubious amateur neuro-tinkering, being reported as actual fact? I mean, I do get that the article was written by generative AI, almost certainly.
Be right back, I'm going to throw a dart at some comic books and make a startup about it.
Headline going with the fully credulous present tense "Uses" as if this were in any way a real thing people can do.
It's a creation of a literal sci-fi author (and self-dubbed "science communicator") who does short films like the "Ectolife" which also went viral... it's not a real startup. Mind, the video is presented without context (better for clicks), but it's good to check sources on wild claims like this.
People now think you can just add “AI” to any proposal and it will somehow make it sound less absurd.
This is nonsense. Anyone who invests in this deserves to lose their money.
It's not really a start up or venture of any sort, it's just a vid from a "science enthusiast's" YouTube channel that ScienceTimes's writer didn't know or care to vet. It's a basically the product of a channel that's basically a much cheaper DUST pretending it's IFLScience.
@niedermeyer.io So if you look this guy up? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hashem_... He does concept videos to provoke discussion. Looks like the Daily Mail saw it and thought it was legit. Then this outlet picked *that* up.
This perfectly represents Tech Bro grift:
—appropriate others' idea as new (this is an old sci-fi idea)
—promise vaguely plausible (not provable) potential
—collect billions in start-up funding from Tech Bro cult (who wouldn't help a hungry child even on fire)
—Rinse, repeat for years of failure.
What the actual fuck. They don’t know what memories are or how they’re stored or accessed. Nor do they know what “rehabilitation” means, much less how to induce that effect, even in years
I’m so done with these “science” articles, especially about AI
When South Park presented this idea 25 years ago, they didn't mean it as a great example that we should actually follow with real people ffs youtu.be/26oRZCLHR1M?...
some things are so horrible I can think of nothing to say that even comes close to matching the disgust and outrage. May this never come about. (Er, maybe it already has and this is softening us for the reveal. Would NOT surprise me.)
That website looks like utter clickbait-ridden garbage. And quite apart from being something from a dystopian sci-fi horror novel, this "Cognify" thing sounds like a scam, the kind of scam that would only be entertained by that sort of website.
If it worked, they would sell it to ANYONE with an unsavoury past. But perhaps it will first be tested on criminals before there are consumer complaints...
Science Times, eh? “Well, anything that posts nonsense like that doesn’t sound like a reliable source. Let me see what I can find out”, I said. Turns out, no, it’s not a reliable source.
We plan to provide an utter atrocity, an ethical lapse of unimaginable horror, and we plan to do it by using technology that is so non-existent that even writing it down makes it clear that either we or our potential funders are credulous buffoons.
We expect an initial round of $50 Million or so.
it's not a real thing and not a startup - it's from a self-styled "science communicator" without any links to any form of business. Just content made for the clicks
There are already existing businesses called cognify that have nothing to do with this
The dumbest thing about this is that WE ALREADY KNOW HOW TO REHABILITATE PEOPLE! There’s a whole big rest of the world out there that incarcerates ppl at much lower rates AND has much less crime/violence. We could do what those places do. We chose not to.
They think they can implant memories and the first thing they decide is not to help people with brain issues but instead create false memories for prisoners? These people need to be put on a desert island to recreate their own civilization stop messing with ours.